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Old 10-27-2007, 01:33 PM   #1
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Human Race Will 'Split Into Two Different Species'

Human race will 'split into two different species'
By NIALL FIRTH

The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.

100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.

The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000.

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This is why "evolutionary theorist" should almost never be in the same sentence as "top scientist". He should stick to predictions about bacteria in petri dishes and experiments on fruit flies. This is among the dumbest things I've ever read. He thinks we'll all become one race but that we will split into two species according to class? lol. What's worse, he got the idea from a fiction novel written in 1895. Has he ever heard of genetic drift? Revolution? I predict that disease and/or war will end humanity before we reach 100,000yrs into the future.

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This is why "evolutionary theorist" should almost never be in the same sentence as "top scientist". He should stick to predictions about bacteria in petri dishes and experiments on fruit flies. This is among the dumbest things I've ever read. He thinks we'll all become one race but that we will split into two species according to class? lol. What's worse, he got the idea from a fiction novel written in 1895. Has he ever heard of genetic drift? Revolution? I predict that disease and/or war will end humanity before we reach 100,000 into the future.
100,000 years from now, Homo sapien will be extinct. We'll be something else.... but, even so, I doubt class will play that big of a part in our genetic drift into distinct species... it'd be barriers of travel, if anything... and by then, I'm sure we'll have expanded into other plantary environments... so planets could be the grounds for species diversification.

As far as disease and/or war killing us off... I doubt it. We're too resilient as a species. Some of us will survive... and hopefully be able to diversify enough after the genetic bottleneck to survive the next tribulation.
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Senators will have to stop having sex in public bathrooms with bums for this to happen; therefore this theory is bullshit!
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an asteroid or comet impact will destroy our civilisation till then

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We're already WAY more than 2 different species!
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an asteroid or comet impact will destroy our civilisation till then

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Is there any chance that the meteor could hit the city that has the most spammers? If so, then I'm in.
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100,000 years from now, Homo sapien will be extinct. We'll be something else.... but, even so, I doubt class will play that big of a part in our genetic drift into distinct species... it'd be barriers of travel, if anything... and by then, I'm sure we'll have expanded into other plantary environments... so planets could be the grounds for species diversification.

As far as disease and/or war killing us off... I doubt it. We're too resilient as a species. Some of us will survive... and hopefully be able to diversify enough after the genetic bottleneck to survive the next tribulation.
That's a very futuristic and optimistic outlook. You paint an interesting scenario. If we do actually begin living on other planets then I suppose it's possible. I erred when I said 'genetic drift'; I was referring to gene flow. In your scenario gene flow would be inhibited. But I don't see how gene flow would stop if we all remained on earth since no barriers to travel exist; it's only gotten easier.
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We're already WAY more than 2 different species!
"Species"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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You mean breeds.
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I think there's some merit to his prediction. Those who belong to higher socioeconomic classes will opt for genetic customization of their offspring, leaving the rest of humanity behind. However, I don't necessarily believe the poor will devolve into "ugly goblin-like creatures".
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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"Keep using that word" I think I made one post to this thread and so I rest my case!

Thank you very much!
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You mean breeds.
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I think there's some merit to his prediction. Those who belong to higher socioeconomic classes will opt for genetic customization of their offspring, leaving the rest of humanity behind. However, I don't necessarily believe the poor will devolve into "ugly goblin-like creatures".
That's the thing. It assumes that the higher socioeconomic classes will not only opt for genetic customization, and that lower classes won't have access to it, and that those who do get this genetic boost will not at any time form relationships and have offspring with other classes. It also assumes that such complex genetic engineering would be successful. Finally, it seems to pre-suppose that the remaining population would stop evolving positively and regress. Why would any of this be true? Events could unfold completely differently.

I guess I just see this 'theory' as a bit 'out there' and less than useful. He should write a sci-fi book about it, but it's already been written.
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might be possible if it wasn't for the fact that most guys will fuck anything with a hole given the chance, regardless of looks.
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That's the thing. It assumes that the higher socioeconomic classes will not only opt for genetic customization, and that lower classes won't have access to it, and that those who do get this genetic boost will not at any time form relationships and have offspring with other classes. It also assumes that such complex genetic engineering would be successful. Finally, it seems to pre-suppose that the remaining population would stop evolving positively and regress. Why would any of this be true? Events could unfold completely differently.

I guess I just see this 'theory' as a bit 'out there' and less than useful. He should write a sci-fi book about it, but it's already been written.
This is true, I suppose it would be far-fetched to conclude that class differences would be enough to inhibit interbreeding. Although I don't doubt Homo sapiens will one day evolve into one, two, or even three different species. Such is the way of evolution.
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might be possible if it wasn't for the fact that most guys will fuck anything with a hole given the chance, regardless of looks.
Exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it shorter and sweeter.
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might be possible if it wasn't for the fact that most guys will fuck anything with a hole given the chance, regardless of looks.
So I guess that means we are actually good for something, huh?
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I don't see why this is so far off. Walk around a high class neighborhood. Then walk through a trailer park. Over hundreds and hundreds of years, this could pan out.
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I don't see why this is so far off. Walk around a high class neighborhood. Then walk through a trailer park. Over hundreds and hundreds of years, this could pan out.
Okay, you're getting WAY too cerebral for me!
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I don't see why this is so far off. Walk around a high class neighborhood. Then walk through a trailer park. Over hundreds and hundreds of years, this could pan out.
But when those trailer parks get too full, the members stage a coup on the high class neighborhoods. Meanwhile, the sons from the high class neighborhood are overseas spreading their seed in Taiwan, and the daughters are sneaking out at night meeting guys named Jamal and Jose.

Think of Paris Hilton.

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Will one species be white and the other appear in a multitude of colors?
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But when those trailer parks get too full, the members stage a coup on the high class neighborhoods. Meanwhile, the sons from the high class neighborhood are overseas spreading their seed in Taiwan, and the daughters are sneaking out at night meeting guys named Jamal and Jose.

Think of Paris Hilton.


Are you in the trailer park or the high class neighborhood, cause I'll try and help you out when you tell me where your concern is coming from.
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Will one species be white and the other appear in a multitude of colors?
Does it really fucking matter in the long run?
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Are you in the trailer park or the high class neighborhood, cause I'll try and help you out when you tell me where your concern is coming from.


Somewhere in the middle
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Does it really fucking matter in the long run?
YES!!
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sure ...

Pricks .... and ... Assholes.
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one should wonder why someone who believes in evolution.. which then must accept that people have been here in one form or another for over 10,000,000 years, why this hasnt happened already and why one would reasonbly think that one could predict an event like this on a 15 million year timeline within a span of 1000 years.
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one should wonder why someone who believes in evolution.. which then must accept that people have been here in one form or another for over 10,000,000 years, why this hasnt happened already and why one would reasonbly think that one could predict an event like this on a 15 million year timeline within a span of 1000 years.
According to various estimates, it is thought that humans started migrating from Africa into different geographical regions anywhere from 50,000 - 100,000 years ago. These numbers are continually shifting as new insights are made.

But yeah, I agree that an argument can be made to contradict his claims. I mean, why didn't this class species seperation emerge in humans or our predecessors in Africa.

I just think it's not worth delving into. His theory is just such outlandish fluff on par with a Nostradamus prediction rather than hard science. Such claims coming from a 'top scientist'..
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speak for yourself...and doing so it says a lot about you.
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YES!!

Please tell me why?
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Somewhere in the middle
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This theory doesn't work anymore... ugly guys with money still breed
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Pricks .... and ... Assholes.
HAHA that made me chuckle!
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"While it'll suck to be a goblin, the elites sound like they'll have a pretty good time: women will all have "glossy hair, smooth hairless skin, large eyes and pert breasts," and men will stand 7 feet tall and have larger penises. Sounds like the porn channels you get on cable.Unfortunately, however, 100,000 years in the future is too late for either Mr. Curry or me."
- http://www.progressivebloggers.ca/bl...er%20Curry

lol


Here's an interesting critique about Curry's essay from 2006:
http://www.badscience.net/?p=316

An even better critique:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2...r_nonsense.php


I thought this story was new but apparently it's been around since 2006. These are just a couple of links straight off googling Curry's name. Rubbish.
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The human race will one day split into two separate species, an attractive, intelligent ruling elite and an underclass of dim-witted, ugly goblin-like creatures, according to a top scientist.

100,000 years into the future, sexual selection could mean that two distinct breeds of human will have developed.

The alarming prediction comes from evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry from the London School of Economics, who says that the human race will have reached its physical peak by the year 3000.

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Pricks .... and ... Assholes.
Precisely

It covers it all - including the dumb and the dumber....
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Now gatica is more profound and possible. Not to mention a whole fucking lot sooner than latter. We are litterally just a few steps of privacy away from it. Currently people will trade std tests, you can do at home drug tests, send of dna samples for other studies like parental etc. Just would really take one lab with some serious guts to offer some deeper dna testing.

Oh and there are now sperm banks that pre screen in certain ways for looks, race, education level and IQ of parents, athletic builds, etc. Perfectly legal so far, and they claim its not for superior breeding stock lol.
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How so, didnt the original Star Trek explain all future human races?
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The guy who came up with this theory is on crack, just trying to get attention.
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The way he described how good men will look ... seems more like he was describing his fantasies and not hard science at all
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