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Old 11-06-2007, 02:28 PM   #1
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Cheney Impeachment!!! It looks like it is going to happen!!!!

http://www.mercurynews.com/politics/...nclick_check=1

Shit is going to hit the fan!!!


None of the major news outlets are reporting!
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Fucking nuts!!!

This is how it went down..
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Rep. Dennis Kucinich put forth a motion to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney and Steny Hoyer had announced earlier that he would kill the motion by offering a motion to table it.

The 15 minute vote has turned into over an hour and initially, according Malkin the vote was 207 yeas (to kill), 204 nays (to support), and 22 not voting.

Then in an amazing move, the politicians started switching votes, at one point 133 Republicans were voting against killing the measure.



The flurry continued as per Malkin:

Update 3:43pm Eastern. The vote to kill Kucinich’s impeachment resolution is wrapping up. C-SPAN’s tally shows 207 yeas (to kill), 204 nays (to support), and 22 not voting.

The nays include 133 Republicans.

Not sure what’s going on. Maybe Republicans want it to pass to embarrass the House leadership?

Lots of last-minute switching…now it’s 204 yea, 207 nay…192 yea, 219 nay…189 yea, 222, nay…

A simple majority is needed to kill the resolution. 218 is the magic number.


Caught up? Good. Confused? Join the club, many that are watching this spectacle is.

The new numbers now, 2:17 pm (AZ time zone here) 207 yeah ( to kill) and 191 nay (to support) 34 not voting.

Here is the kicker: 186 Republicans are part of the 191 nays!!!!!

207 Democrats have now voted Yeah (to kill the motion).

The Republicans have staged a coup, so to speak, and now the Democratic politicians are going to have to explain to their voters why they voted to NOT impeach Cheney, guaranteed to outrage their netroot supports beyond imagination.

2:21 pm- 217 yeahs (kill) and 194 Nays (support)22 not voting.

214 Democrats voting to kill the bill and 189 Republicans voting to support the bill.

The netroots are going to lose their minds over this.

Talk about turning the tables on your opposition. How embarrassing. The republicans have just forced the Democrats to vote against impeaching Dick Cheney, because Hoyer and Pelsoi have made it clear that was not their agenda.


"[House Speaker Nancy Pelosi] and I have both said impeachment is not on our agenda," Hoyer told reporters. "That does not make a judgment on that issue."


Reactions will be coming in and I will update this post with them....expect outrage

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I was watching it live here: http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan_...Cat=TV&Code=CS
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GOP forces debate on Cheney impeachment
By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 11/06/2007 01:15:21 PM PST


WASHINGTON—House Republicans, changing course midway through a vote, tried to force Democrats into a debate on a resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney on the grounds he purposely led the country into war against Iraq.
The GOP tactics reversed what had been expected to an overwhelming vote to table, or kill, the resolution by longshot Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.

Midway through the vote, with instructions from the GOP leadership, Republicans one by one changed their votes from yes—to kill the resolution—to no, trying to force the chamber into a debate and an up-or-down vote on the proposal.

At one point there were 290 votes to table. After the turnaround, the final vote was 251-162 against tabling, with 165 Republicans voting against it.

"We're going to help them out, to explain themselves," said Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. "We're going to give them their day in court."

Kucinich, an anti-war Democrat from Ohio, has long pushed for a vote to impeach Cheney, but has failed to win the backing of the Democratic leadership. After Kucinich introduced the resolution, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., immediately moved to table it.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "has said that impeachment is off the table and that the new direction Congress is focused on responsibly and honorably redeploying our troops out of Iraq, covering 10 million uninsured children and meeting our national priorities


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long neglected by the Bush Administration," said her spokesman Nadeam Elshami.
The resolution said that Cheney, "in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully executive the office of vice president," had "purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the U.S. Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security interests."

The 11-page resolution also charged that Cheney purposely deceived the nation about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al-Qaida and has "openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran absent any real threat to the United States."

House approval of an article of impeachment sends the issue to the Senate, which has the constitutional authority to try and, with a two-thirds vote, remove a person from office.
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GOP Forces Debate on Cheney Impeachment

By JIM ABRAMS
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Tuesday, November 6, 2007; 4:21 PM

WASHINGTON -- House Republicans, changing course midway through a vote, tried to force Democrats into a debate on a resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney on the grounds he purposely led the country into war against Iraq.

The GOP tactics reversed what had been expected to an overwhelming vote to table, or kill, the resolution by longshot Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.



Vice President Dick Cheney speaks at the World Affairs Council luncheon Friday Nov. 2, 2007 in Dallas. The World Affairs Council is non-profit, nonpartisan organization established to educate citizens on issues of international affairs and foreign policy. (AP Photo/Tim Sharp) (Tim Sharp - AP)

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Midway through the vote, with instructions from the GOP leadership, Republicans one by one changed their votes from yes _ to kill the resolution _ to no, trying to force the chamber into a debate and an up-or-down vote on the proposal.

At one point there were 290 votes to table. After the turnaround, the final vote was 251-162 against tabling, with 165 Republicans voting against it.

"We're going to help them out, to explain themselves," said Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas. "We're going to give them their day in court."

Kucinich, an anti-war Democrat from Ohio, has long pushed for a vote to impeach Cheney, but has failed to win the backing of the Democratic leadership. After Kucinich introduced the resolution, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., immediately moved to table it.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "has said that impeachment is off the table and that the new direction Congress is focused on responsibly and honorably redeploying our troops out of Iraq, covering 10 million uninsured children and meeting our national priorities long neglected by the Bush Administration," said her spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

The resolution said that Cheney, "in violation of his constitutional oath to faithfully executive the office of vice president," had "purposely manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the U.S. Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq in a manner damaging to our national security interests."

The 11-page resolution also charged that Cheney purposely deceived the nation about an alleged relationship between Iraq and Al-Qaida and has "openly threatened aggression against the Republic of Iran absent any real threat to the United States."


House approval of an article of impeachment sends the issue to the Senate, which has the constitutional authority to try and, with a two-thirds vote, remove a person from office.
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Something weird is up.

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Update at 4:30 p.m. ET: Perhaps we should pause to explain. When most Republicans unexpectedly -- and on orders of GOP leadership, the AP is reporting -- switched sides and voted against tabling the measure, they essentially forced Democrats to keep talking about it on the floor. Tabling the measure would have killed it.

Debate over Cheney's impeachment is in direct opposition to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's wishes. She has repeatedly said an impeachment of Cheney or President Bush is off the table. Thus, failing to table this measure is a essentially a jab in Pelosi's ribs.


"We're going to help them out, to explain themselves," Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Texas, told the AP of the impeachment's supporters. "We're going to give them their day in court."

Update at 4:32 p.m. ET: The House just voted, 218-194, to send the resolution to the Judiciary Committee. That should end today's debate -- but it does keep the resolution at least technically alive.
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They lost me at the end. So did it get approved?
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I don't understand the tactic the Republicans used. Can someone explain why they would force this off the table?
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Looks like the Republicans have the better strategy here. The whole thing has zero chance of passing the Senate anyway. Nothing but blustering. Both sides are acting ridiculously.
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I guess I miss the whole point of it. It's like nothing really happened but you are glad that it took a lot of flip-flopping for nothing to happen.
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Sounds like a fair definition of politics.
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I don't understand the tactic the Republicans used. Can someone explain why they would force this off the table?
They're calling the democrat bluff - it was thrown out there as a political shot only.. with the expectation of it being tabled. The republicans have basically said "put your money where your mouth is"
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OMG! How did I miss the obvious irony of my statement?
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Too good to be true, let's hope the Pentagon and Bush don't declare state of emergency like in Pakistan.
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Gotcha... okay thanks.
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its much harder to do in this country and the army isnt as powerful as they are in those countries.
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Pretty sad .. it makes them worse then the GOP ...
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They both suck for different reasons. The problem is they are in the job for too long, keeping the job becomes more important then helping the nation.It should 8 yrs and then your out for life.
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what happened today was silly politics and an embarassment.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:16 PM   #46
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Too good to be true, let's hope the Pentagon and Bush don't declare state of emergency like in Pakistan.
I get the impression that you think an impeachment is more than it really is.

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there is no one worth a shit on either side.
Did not answer the question.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:22 PM   #47
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About time.. but with there being only a year left the damage is already done.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:35 PM   #48
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its much harder to do in this country and the army isnt as powerful as they are in those countries.
It was a sarcasm

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Old 11-06-2007, 04:40 PM   #49
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Longer term this could backfire for the republicans: Each of them voted essentially to support impeaching Cheney, not to kill the motion. That would suggest that even Republicans think he should go.

If in fact this gets opened into a larger can of worms, the republicans will have to massively flip flop to avoid sending their own VP to slaughter.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:43 PM   #50
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