Pacific Rack and OC3Networks?

Alex from Pacific Rack you inspired me to be dramatic here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=780684

You obfuscated things at the end of our ICQ conversation so how about I post it here. Now you have exactly the situation you didn't want. I'm really hoping that you can clear things up for me and turn this into a win for your business. Maybe you can even teach me a thing or two about marketing in the process.


Cheers,

Brad


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PacificRack ‎(4:33 PM):
hi
PacificRack ‎(4:33 PM):
You added PacificRack
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:33 PM):
Hi there who's this?
PacificRack ‎(4:33 PM):
this is Alex, from PacificRack
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:34 PM):
Hi Alex
PacificRack ‎(4:34 PM):
Listen, I'd appreciate it if you didn't push the issue and cause drama on the boards. I really don't want to be involved in board hatred/drama issues
PacificRack ‎(4:34 PM):
I just want to run a clean op. with no board drama I have to deal with.
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:34 PM):
Whoa, I don't understand where you're seeing any drama in my post.
PacificRack ‎(4:35 PM):
While you and I might understand what we are talking about
PacificRack ‎(4:35 PM):
you know that anyone reading or skimming over that thread
PacificRack ‎(4:35 PM):
is just going to see negativity
PacificRack ‎(4:36 PM):
You are trying to instigate that OC3 is using PR in some evil way because we made no announcements, etc
PacificRack ‎(4:37 PM):
PR is a brand to target a different market segment, and we don't want anyone from OC3 converting to PR
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:37 PM):
LOL, no not at all.
PacificRack ‎(4:37 PM):
they are obviously at different price points
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:37 PM):
The question we had I thought was pretty obvious, what's the relationship?
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:37 PM):
Are they same or different ownership?
PacificRack ‎(4:37 PM):
they are the same ownership
PacificRack ‎(4:37 PM):
PR is targetting the mainstream market
PacificRack ‎(4:38 PM):
as OC3 is heavy adult
PacificRack ‎(4:38 PM):
but we are also trying to scoop up some of the lower end adult business
PacificRack ‎(4:38 PM):
that we don't handle in OC3
PacificRack ‎(4:38 PM):
We obviously want to avoid brand cross-over though
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:40 PM):
If Pacific Rack is trying to target the mainstream market why would you be all over GFY? And when you say scoop up the "lower end adult business" I've seen nothing but competitive pricing from OC3 in the past so I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:40 PM):
You have to understand from an educated point of view that some new company shows up touting a massive network and infrastructure with no history and no frame of reference that it raises a red flag.
PacificRack ‎(4:40 PM):
To the competition, sure
PacificRack ‎(4:41 PM):
All the customer cares about is they receive what they are sold
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:41 PM):
Well, that's an interesting way of going about things I guess. I'm not in search of any board drama and I don't think I was the least bit out of line - nor way Jay for that matter - in asking any questions. There are dozens of companies that I compete against very friendly and fair, it's always been that way.
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:42 PM):
And the customers on GFY are educated, many of them, and history and reputation is quite important especially in adult because so many relationships are trust based. Ycaza and Milan would attest to that, I'm certain.
PacificRack ‎(4:44 PM):
I never said they weren't educated, but I haven't had an issue with them trusting us, and they have all received everything they were promised. So there are no evil deeds happening, the only reason I don't want board drama is because of brand cross-over.
PacificRack ‎(4:45 PM):
They are educated as you said and hopefully now that you know that we aren't a fly by night company and actually providing what we are claiming, I hope you will relax a bit, you and Jay since I guess you're speaking with each other.
PacificRack ‎(4:45 PM):
I understand you were afraid we were just another one day host, and that is acceptable
PacificRack ‎(4:46 PM):
there have been plenty on GFY that have run away causing a black mark on our industry (hosting) as a whole, however we are not one of those cases. we are simply a brand of a long established organization which in no way (especially with its success) has the detriments or issues associated with a new startup
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:52 PM):
I have to be honest Alex, I'm not aware of any baggage over at OC3, as far as I know OC3 provides good service. If it's the same company and ownership then I absolutely disagree with what you're saying and how you've gone about things. All I'm getting out of this conversation of any substance is that PacificRack is the exact same as OC3 with a different marketing face and that you're asking me to keep that a secret. That's simply not right and not going to happen.
PacificRack ‎(4:54 PM):
Who's asking you to keep a secret? Im asking you to back off because you are going to cause drama. This isn't a unethical or immoral situation so please trying to make it sound like it is
PacificRack ‎(4:54 PM):
"Simply not right"
PacificRack ‎(4:55 PM):
I don't see what you disagree with, do you have any experience in marketing? You've never heard of multiple brands to target multiple market segments?
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:55 PM):
My disconnect with the situation is that we're having this conversation at all. Another host did a trace that came in through OC3 to PacificRack and then you've got me on ICQ basically asking me to drop the questions on GFY when in fact there are several hosts that have been a bit bewildered by the situation.
PacificRack ‎(4:56 PM):
There's obviously no way for 1 singular brand to target multiple budget markets
PacificRack ‎(4:56 PM):
You are the one who replied, you also brought it up in another thread
PacificRack ‎(4:56 PM):
The only other person is FortressITX, which you seem to be talking with
PacificRack ‎(4:56 PM):
So again, leads back to you
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:57 PM):
I asked you a question in another thread and unless I'm mistaken you never responded. It was the same question, if you actually did answer my question back then and I missed it then I'm sorry.
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:58 PM):
And whats this leads back to me thing, you make it sound like I'm rallying the villagers or something and that's just silly.
Brad Mitchell ‎(4:59 PM):
LOL
PacificRack ‎(5:09 PM):
So anyways, even if we are resellers we are still using the same infrastructure OC3 does thus giving us the same reliability that they are known for
Brad Mitchell ‎(5:10 PM):
So are you a reseller in every respect or some respects or not at all?
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