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Old 10-29-2007, 07:24 PM   #1
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:stoned Schwarzenegger : Pot is not a drug. It's a leaf.

I like this guy more and more ....

Los Angeles, CA (AHN)-California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger defended his use of marijuana during his bodybuilding days in the 1970s, saying that pot is not a drug during an interview with GQ magazine.

Schwarzenegger, a former bodybuilder/actor turned politician, was defending a picture of himself in the 1977 documentary "Pumping Iron," which depicted him smoking a joint, telling the interviewer, "That is not a drug. It's a leaf. My drug was pumping iron, trust me."

The Republican governor of California also refused to criticize politicians who eschew answering questions about their own experimentation with drugs, asking the interviewer, "What would you rather have? A politician taking stuff and not saying, but making the best decisions and improving things? Or a politician who names all the drugs he or she has taken but makes lousy decisions for the country?"

Schwarzenegger, who manages to remain widely popular as a GOP governor in a traditionally Democratic state, was a tad less forthcoming when discussing his opinion of fellow Republican George W. Bush's administration.

Asked if he would include President Bush on his list of the greatest leaders in history, which included former South African President Nelson Mandela, Presidents John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan, Schwarzenegger replied, "I would say that I was...very fond of his father. I worked for President Bush Sr., and he was a great man."

"I think his son does some great things and there are some other things I don't agree with," he added.

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Arnold for president.
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I'm starting to like Arnie more and more
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Yeah... a moderate Republican who works his ass off toward the goal of bipartisanship.

While I didn't agree with the terms that first brought him info office, I think he's proved a pretty good Governator since.
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It's a leaf, not a drug, and all that...

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It's a leaf, not a drug, and all that...

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I was not too fond of him at 1st either as gov but I think he has done a pretty good job and has been more honest then most in the job would have been.
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to bad he can't be president
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I am sure I will get to hear this comment referred to often when I visit the MPP table at the Libertarian Party's convention next year.
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You have to give a politician credit when he speaks his own mind. I wish more were like him.
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Arnold got my vote as soon as I saw him grab some hot Brazillian ass with no shame in this video.


If he wants to protest to change the voting laws I will be first in the campaign.
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i hope he realises cocaine is also a leaf,, and essentially so is heroin
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Again, I like Arnold, but there are only 3 requirements to be president of the U.S. - and each of them serve a significant purpose.

Anyone not born in the U.S. is bound to show favoritism to their country of birth in negotiations - when no favor should be carried.

Moving to reform sound constitutional laws that have been in place for over 2 centuries just because you like the flavor of the moment is pretty short-sighted, imho.
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That rule can be changed.

Arnie is the one guy I'd say they'd change it for.
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That rule can be changed.

Arnie is the one guy I'd say they'd change it for.
They won't change it for Arnold.. that would be sheer stupidity.

Besides... whomever they think they would change it for, you can guarantee a Mexican would be elected. They have a huuuuuuuuuuge population base here in the US. Their voting numbers in a situation like that would be overwhelming.
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Arnie is the one guy I'd say they'd change it for.
Why not make him your PM instead? Sounds like a great idea.
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i hope he realises cocaine is also a leaf,, and essentially so is heroin

well, that is the wrong way to look at it....

he knows that of course, but there is a separation in my opinion between a plant that is in its natural form, and the extracted concentrated form that makes the distinction

aspirin is a drug as willow bark is a plant...

coca leaves by themselves are chewed by natives for centuries and may actually be healthy in that form... it is when it is extracted chemically and concentrated that it becomes an abused drug of cocaine

pot is an herb, to group it in the same group as drugs like methamphetamines is wrong
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well, that is the wrong way to look at it....

he knows that of course, but there is a separation in my opinion between a plant that is in its natural form, and the extracted concentrated form that makes the distinction

aspirin is a drug as willow bark is a plant...

coca leaves by themselves are chewed by natives for centuries and may actually be healthy in that form... it is when it is extracted chemically and concentrated that it becomes an abused drug of cocaine

pot is an herb, to group it in the same group as drugs like methamphetamines is wrong
So, we should let people chew leaves of the coca plant?
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If there was a candidate that had better qualities than Arnold I'd vote for him.

Unfortunately candidates that forthcoming, rational and transparent aren't a dime a dozen.

So, if there is ever a campaign to allow him to run I'm in.
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They won't change it for Arnold.. [color]yellow]that would be sheer stupidity.[/color]

Besides... whomever they think they would change it for, you can guarantee a Mexican would be elected. They have a huuuuuuuuuuge population base here in the US. Their voting numbers in a situation like that would be overwhelming.
Like we've never seen sheer stupidity in government before. :D

I'm just saying, if the rule were EVER to be changed, a guy like Arnold would be the one they'd do it for. That's all. He married well and is well-connected and well-supported. I'm not saying it will happen, I'm mainly just suggesting that in a case such as this It's wise to never say never. Twenty years ago people said the US would never elect a woman or a black man as president, yet here we are quite possibly on the doorstep of seeing one or the other of those things coming to pass.

I rarely find myself saying the phrase "it'll never happen" these days. Pretty much anything can happen.
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Well now you're just talking nonsense. :D
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I did say "quite possibly" or did you happen to skip over that part?



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How so?
I'm treating this conversation very light-hearted. You seem to be all serioius tonight dude, anything up your ass I should know about? :D

How so... well for one thing Arnie isn't running for leadership in Canada. For another I didn't "make" anyone the last PM here, I have no power to "make him the PM", I'm not sure what gives with your comment.

Also, while we're being all serious, I can tell that you have an absolute hate on for Arnie and that's fine, but you really should realize that I'm not saying this or that SHOULD happen. I am merely saying that it is something that wouldn't surprise me if it DID happen, that's all. Those saying it WON'T happen (like they know) are in my view unwise. Stranger things have happened and we all know it including you.

To say it another way, I think it could happen. Will it happen? Probably not. But I'm simply not willing to stand with the rest of you and state flat-out like you are all soothsayers with 100% prediction rates that something like this won't happen, that's all.

I hope that clears things up a bit. :D
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I'd vote for him.
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I suggest starting a referendum, gathering signatures to show him you guys want him.

I will help.
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well, that is the wrong way to look at it....
i dont think honesty is ever a "wrong way to look at it "

i think you mean he was wrong for using a bad example and i was correct for calling him on it.

instead of saying " its ok because its a leaf" and confusing people he could have just said what you said..

that's beside's the whole " it was illegal" and thus saying it was ok for him because it was leaf is like saying , "it's ok to break crimes as long as you have a reason "



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pot is an herb, to group it in the same group as drugs like methamphetamines is wrong
i dont think anyone mentioned meth.. most "grouping" of drugs is wrong regardless of what the drugs are .. i wouldnt group meth with crack , but they are both bad.. so in essence im grouping them as "bad"
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I suggest starting a referendum, gathering signatures to show him you guys want him.

I will help.
A better suggestion might be, if you want a different governor of your state why not choose a new candidate and take your own advice?
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I voted against removing Gray Davis, and was honestly quite surprised when that measure passed. I voted for Davis in the event that it did pass.

I did not vote for Arnie ever, and actually hung my head in disbelief when he won (ask =^..^= or firehorse) and had to grin and bear it when all my German friends were making fun of California because of Arnold during my visit there.

Germans think it is hilarious. At least all that I know personally.
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I voted against removing Gray Davis, and was honestly quite surprised when that measure passed. I voted for Davis in the event that it did pass.

I did not vote for Arnie ever, and actually hung my head in disbelief when he won (ask =^..^= or firehorse) and had to grin and bear it when all my German friends were making fun of California because of Arnold during my visit there.

Germans think it is hilarious. At least all that I know personally.
The Germans were laughing? Well that just tears it.


Only Arnie asks the really tough important questions these days, like...

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I voted against removing Gray Davis, and was honestly quite surprised when that measure passed. I voted for Davis in the event that it did pass.

I did not vote for Arnie ever, and actually hung my head in disbelief when he won (ask =^..^= or firehorse) and had to grin and bear it when all my German friends were making fun of California because of Arnold during my visit there.

Germans think it is hilarious. At least all that I know personally.
Yes but germans make fun of austrians the way norwegians make fun of swedes so that is to be expected...

Arnie was the consumate politician very early on... watch how he works over Lou Ferrigno in "Pumping Iron"...
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:52 PM   #41
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If Obama or Hillary wins, I think it would unfortunately be because they are black and female respectively not because they are the best for the job.

Who's the best for the job???? I don't know, but I really don't think it is either of them.

If you open up the presidency to foreign born, you are not just talking Arnold, or Mexicans, you would open it up worldwide. Imagine the possibilities of who could run the country and who they would be beholden to. The rule is in place for a good reason and is one I think will never change, regardless of one person's popularity at any time.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:07 PM   #42
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Want your son to be president someday? Move to America and have him while on our soil.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:24 PM   #43
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:29 PM   #44
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Spoken like a true politician lol
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Old 10-30-2007, 06:20 AM   #45
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:55 AM   #46
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Arnold got my vote as soon as I saw him grab some hot Brazillian ass with no shame in this video.
That's classic. Arnold's a funny guy!
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Old 10-30-2007, 07:57 AM   #47
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He is numero uno
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:38 AM   #48
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I had doubts when he got elected, but he's done quite well in the job. I'm not a Californian, so not sure the exact toll everything he does has on the state, but he seems to be well liked on both sides of the political spectrum, which is rare these days.

I like that he speaks his mind and doesn't mind saying things that might go against his party line...

but, um, no presidency for Arnie...
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:42 AM   #49
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Arnold my new hero.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:51 AM   #50
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I do agree with him on this issue...
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