Oklahoma Traffic Laws SUCK

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  • minusonebit
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2006
    • 7391

    #1

    Oklahoma Traffic Laws SUCK

    So I recently got a traffic ticket. Usually, those are fun because I have gotten very good at beating them in Court. Half the time, the cop doesn't show up and even when he does, I can usually still find a way out of it by tripping the state up on discovery requests and other assorted bullshit, or catching them not filing something on time.

    Well, a couple of weeks ago, I got pulled over for (allegedly) Following Too Closely, in violation of O.S. §11-310(a). I take my ticket, don't argue with the cop and it'll be the same old thing, right? Well, not exactly. As the court date starts to come around, I call the clerk to get the case number so I can start filing my blizzard of motions and discovery requests and so on. And I find out that the case is on the fucking Misdemeanor Docket. According to O.S. §17-101(a) and O.S. §17-101(b), this is actually a criminal offense, max penalty for your first conviction up to $500 fine and up to 10 days in jail.

    So I called the DA and asked him what he is planning to do. His response was that his office has a no breaks for anyone policy "for the safety of the public", of course. They are actually gonna try and stick me in jail for 10 days because some stupid fucking cop thinks I was following too close. What other state puts people in jail for fucking stupid ass shit like this? What a waste of taxpayer money. The good thing is that since its a criminal offense I can get a jury trial (that should be fun for the whole family, I can't wait) and the burden of proof is raised from preponderance of the evidence to guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the state is gonna have to work hard for their ticket money this time. I still should be able to lick this.

    Absolutely fucking insane. Does any other state do this?
  • baddog
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 107089

    #2
    Could not happen to a better guy.

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    • bushwacker
      Confirmed User
      • Jun 2002
      • 2817

      #3
      Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!!!!!!!

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      • thonglife
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2004
        • 1566

        #4
        You're not going to jail dude. You could probate the sentence out.

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        • escorpio
          doesn't fuck around.
          • Oct 2002
          • 23487

          #5
          Obnoxious asshole like you is going to get his ass stomped in jail.
          Unvaxxed, still alive.

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          • minusonebit
            So Fucking Banned
            • Feb 2006
            • 7391

            #6
            Originally posted by thonglife
            You're not going to jail dude. You could probate the sentence out.
            Of course I am not. They aren't going to actually win, I will make sure of that. I just can't believe that they charge traffic as a criminal offense. Most states got smart a long time ago and made traffic violations civil affairs not punishable by any jail time, that way you lose most of your rights (the right to a trial by jury, namely) and the standard of evidence gets downgraded from "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" to "guilty by a preponderance of the evidence", and the burden of proof switches from the Plaintiff/State to the Defendant.

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            • BradM
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 3397

              #7
              You're a dick, I hope someone rapes you in prison. Enjoy, fuckhead.

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              • minusonebit
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2006
                • 7391

                #8
                Originally posted by BradM
                You're a dick, I hope someone rapes you in prison. Enjoy, fuckhead.
                LOL, thanks for your well wishes. Hate to disappoint, this is a college town. I think the very worst I will have to endure is a few drunk college frat boys sleeping off their hangovers and a couple of people arrested for smoking pot. And maybe, if I am lucky, the guy who keeps holding up our 7-11. Its been robbed like 4 times this year. But I think my anal cavity will be, for the most part, safe.

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                • aico
                  Moo Moo Cow
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14748

                  #9
                  Karma is a bitch.

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                  • baddog
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Apr 2001
                    • 107089

                    #10
                    Should probably snitch him off to his DA

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                    • Skillz Unlimited
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 1541

                      #11
                      you wont go to jail.

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                      • aico
                        Moo Moo Cow
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14748

                        #12
                        Someone email the DA and link to the post where he admits to stealing electricity. Should do wonders for his case.

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                        • Red Ezra
                          redezra.com
                          • May 2004
                          • 4680

                          #13
                          man they threw the book at ya shit

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #14
                            Have you been complaining forever and no one noticed until now, or is it just karma catching up with you?

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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Skillz Unlimited
                              you wont go to jail.
                              Exactly.

                              I have been in more trouble for traffic shit a lot more serious than some piss ant 'following too close' violation, and never went to jail. Even on my 12th violation for driving on suspended license, while going 40 over the limit.

                              I have had some of the DA's in neighboring counties talk tough to me like that as well. In the end, I paid a $100-200 fine, and was put on probation for 6/12/24 months and required to carry a copy of my driving record at all times (while driving).

                              The jails almost everywhere are over flowing. In essence, they do not have room to make an example of you.

                              So you will have to keep fingering your own bung.
                              Should You Email Your Members?

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                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                double post
                                Should You Email Your Members?

                                Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                Enough Said.

                                "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                • kenny
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 7245

                                  #17
                                  Unless you have like a million violations for similar things you're not going to jail..
                                  7

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                                  • madfuck
                                    Registered User
                                    • Oct 2004
                                    • 2032

                                    #18
                                    Oh wow that has got to suck!!!!! I feel for ya

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                                    • madleinx
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 102

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by minusonebit
                                      So I recently got a traffic ticket. Usually, those are fun because I have gotten very good at beating them in Court. Half the time, the cop doesn't show up and even when he does, I can usually still find a way out of it by tripping the state up on discovery requests and other assorted bullshit, or catching them not filing something on time.

                                      Well, a couple of weeks ago, I got pulled over for (allegedly) Following Too Closely, in violation of O.S. §11-310(a). I take my ticket, don't argue with the cop and it'll be the same old thing, right? Well, not exactly. As the court date starts to come around, I call the clerk to get the case number so I can start filing my blizzard of motions and discovery requests and so on. And I find out that the case is on the fucking Misdemeanor Docket. According to O.S. §17-101(a) and O.S. §17-101(b), this is actually a criminal offense, max penalty for your first conviction up to $500 fine and up to 10 days in jail.

                                      So I called the DA and asked him what he is planning to do. His response was that his office has a no breaks for anyone policy "for the safety of the public", of course. They are actually gonna try and stick me in jail for 10 days because some stupid fucking cop thinks I was following too close. What other state puts people in jail for fucking stupid ass shit like this? What a waste of taxpayer money. The good thing is that since its a criminal offense I can get a jury trial (that should be fun for the whole family, I can't wait) and the burden of proof is raised from preponderance of the evidence to guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the state is gonna have to work hard for their ticket money this time. I still should be able to lick this.

                                      Absolutely fucking insane. Does any other state do this?
                                      See sig. Seriously, I'm trying to help here/

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                                      • The Judge
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2006
                                        • 1647

                                        #20
                                        tailgaters are the scum of the earth, who the fuck tailgates? mostly dumb women in minivans and short angry guys

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