Oklahoma Traffic Laws SUCK - GoFuckYourself.com

minusonebit · 10-22-2007, 03:00 PM

So I recently got a traffic ticket. Usually, those are fun because I have gotten very good at beating them in Court. Half the time, the cop doesn't show up and even when he does, I can usually still find a way out of it by tripping the state up on discovery requests and other assorted bullshit, or catching them not filing something on time.

Well, a couple of weeks ago, I got pulled over for (allegedly) Following Too Closely, in violation of O.S. §11-310(a). I take my ticket, don't argue with the cop and it'll be the same old thing, right? Well, not exactly. As the court date starts to come around, I call the clerk to get the case number so I can start filing my blizzard of motions and discovery requests and so on. And I find out that the case is on the fucking Misdemeanor Docket. According to O.S. §17-101(a) and O.S. §17-101(b), this is actually a criminal offense, max penalty for your first conviction up to $500 fine and up to 10 days in jail.

So I called the DA and asked him what he is planning to do. His response was that his office has a no breaks for anyone policy "for the safety of the public", of course. They are actually gonna try and stick me in jail for 10 days because some stupid fucking cop thinks I was following too close. What other state puts people in jail for fucking stupid ass shit like this? What a waste of taxpayer money. The good thing is that since its a criminal offense I can get a jury trial (that should be fun for the whole family, I can't wait) and the burden of proof is raised from preponderance of the evidence to guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the state is gonna have to work hard for their ticket money this time. I still should be able to lick this.

Absolutely fucking insane. Does any other state do this?

baddog · 10-22-2007, 03:02 PM

Could not happen to a better guy.

bushwacker · 10-22-2007, 03:03 PM

Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!!!!!!!

thonglife · 10-22-2007, 03:05 PM

You're not going to jail dude. You could probate the sentence out.

escorpio · 10-22-2007, 03:18 PM

Obnoxious asshole like you is going to get his ass stomped in jail.

minusonebit · 10-22-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thonglife

You're not going to jail dude. You could probate the sentence out.

Of course I am not. They aren't going to actually win, I will make sure of that. I just can't believe that they charge traffic as a criminal offense. Most states got smart a long time ago and made traffic violations civil affairs not punishable by any jail time, that way you lose most of your rights (the right to a trial by jury, namely) and the standard of evidence gets downgraded from "guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" to "guilty by a preponderance of the evidence", and the burden of proof switches from the Plaintiff/State to the Defendant.

BradM · 10-22-2007, 03:19 PM

You're a dick, I hope someone rapes you in prison. Enjoy, fuckhead.

minusonebit · 10-22-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

You're a dick, I hope someone rapes you in prison. Enjoy, fuckhead.

LOL, thanks for your well wishes.

Hate to disappoint, this is a college town. I think the very worst I will have to endure is a few drunk college frat boys sleeping off their hangovers and a couple of people arrested for smoking pot. And maybe, if I am lucky, the guy who keeps holding up our 7-11. Its been robbed like 4 times this year. But I think my anal cavity will be, for the most part, safe.

aico · 10-22-2007, 03:47 PM

Karma is a bitch.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 03:49 PM

Should probably snitch him off to his DA

Skillz Unlimited · 10-22-2007, 03:59 PM

you wont go to jail.

aico · 10-22-2007, 04:01 PM

Someone email the DA and link to the post where he admits to stealing electricity. Should do wonders for his case.

Red Ezra · 10-22-2007, 04:05 PM

man they threw the book at ya shit

rowan · 10-22-2007, 10:35 PM

Have you been complaining forever and no one noticed until now, or is it just karma catching up with you?

Barefootsies · 11-09-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited

you wont go to jail.

Exactly.

I have been in more trouble for traffic shit a lot more serious than some piss ant 'following too close' violation, and never went to jail. Even on my 12th violation for driving on suspended license, while going 40 over the limit.

I have had some of the DA's in neighboring counties talk tough to me like that as well. In the end, I paid a $100-200 fine, and was put on probation for 6/12/24 months and required to carry a copy of my driving record at all times (while driving).

The jails almost everywhere are over flowing. In essence, they do not have room to make an example of you.

So you will have to keep fingering your own bung.

Barefootsies · 11-09-2007, 11:36 PM

double post

kenny · 11-09-2007, 11:41 PM

Unless you have like a million violations for similar things you're not going to jail..

madfuck · 11-10-2007, 12:21 AM

Oh wow that has got to suck!!!!! I feel for ya

madleinx · 11-10-2007, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minusonebit

So I recently got a traffic ticket. Usually, those are fun because I have gotten very good at beating them in Court. Half the time, the cop doesn't show up and even when he does, I can usually still find a way out of it by tripping the state up on discovery requests and other assorted bullshit, or catching them not filing something on time.

Well, a couple of weeks ago, I got pulled over for (allegedly) Following Too Closely, in violation of O.S. §11-310(a). I take my ticket, don't argue with the cop and it'll be the same old thing, right? Well, not exactly. As the court date starts to come around, I call the clerk to get the case number so I can start filing my blizzard of motions and discovery requests and so on. And I find out that the case is on the fucking Misdemeanor Docket. According to O.S. §17-101(a) and O.S. §17-101(b), this is actually a criminal offense, max penalty for your first conviction up to $500 fine and up to 10 days in jail.

So I called the DA and asked him what he is planning to do. His response was that his office has a no breaks for anyone policy "for the safety of the public", of course. They are actually gonna try and stick me in jail for 10 days because some stupid fucking cop thinks I was following too close. What other state puts people in jail for fucking stupid ass shit like this? What a waste of taxpayer money. The good thing is that since its a criminal offense I can get a jury trial (that should be fun for the whole family, I can't wait) and the burden of proof is raised from preponderance of the evidence to guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the state is gonna have to work hard for their ticket money this time. I still should be able to lick this.

Absolutely fucking insane. Does any other state do this?

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The Judge · 11-10-2007, 08:13 AM

tailgaters are the scum of the earth, who the fuck tailgates? mostly dumb women in minivans and short angry guys

10-22-2007, 03:00 PM	#1
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Oklahoma Traffic Laws SUCK So I recently got a traffic ticket. Usually, those are fun because I have gotten very good at beating them in Court. Half the time, the cop doesn't show up and even when he does, I can usually still find a way out of it by tripping the state up on discovery requests and other assorted bullshit, or catching them not filing something on time. Well, a couple of weeks ago, I got pulled over for (allegedly) Following Too Closely, in violation of O.S. §11-310(a). I take my ticket, don't argue with the cop and it'll be the same old thing, right? Well, not exactly. As the court date starts to come around, I call the clerk to get the case number so I can start filing my blizzard of motions and discovery requests and so on. And I find out that the case is on the fucking Misdemeanor Docket. According to O.S. §17-101(a) and O.S. §17-101(b), this is actually a criminal offense, max penalty for your first conviction up to $500 fine and up to 10 days in jail. So I called the DA and asked him what he is planning to do. His response was that his office has a no breaks for anyone policy "for the safety of the public", of course. They are actually gonna try and stick me in jail for 10 days because some stupid fucking cop thinks I was following too close. What other state puts people in jail for fucking stupid ass shit like this? What a waste of taxpayer money. The good thing is that since its a criminal offense I can get a jury trial (that should be fun for the whole family, I can't wait) and the burden of proof is raised from preponderance of the evidence to guilty beyond a reasonable doubt the state is gonna have to work hard for their ticket money this time. I still should be able to lick this. Absolutely fucking insane. Does any other state do this?

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10-22-2007, 03:02 PM	#2
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Could not happen to a better guy.

10-22-2007, 03:03 PM	#3
bushwacker Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: so. fla. Posts: 2,817	Guilty, Guilty, Guilty!!!!!!!!!!

10-22-2007, 03:05 PM	#4
thonglife So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US Posts: 1,566	You're not going to jail dude. You could probate the sentence out.

10-22-2007, 03:18 PM	#5
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 23,190	Obnoxious asshole like you is going to get his ass stomped in jail.

10-22-2007, 03:19 PM	#7
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	You're a dick, I hope someone rapes you in prison. Enjoy, fuckhead.

10-22-2007, 03:47 PM	#9
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Karma is a bitch.

10-22-2007, 03:49 PM	#10
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Should probably snitch him off to his DA

10-22-2007, 03:59 PM	#11
Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	you wont go to jail.

10-22-2007, 04:01 PM	#12
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	Someone email the DA and link to the post where he admits to stealing electricity. Should do wonders for his case.

10-22-2007, 04:05 PM	#13
Red Ezra redezra.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: Vegas Baby! Posts: 4,680	man they threw the book at ya shit

10-22-2007, 10:35 PM	#14
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Have you been complaining forever and no one noticed until now, or is it just karma catching up with you?

11-10-2007, 12:21 AM	#18
madfuck Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,032	Oh wow that has got to suck!!!!! I feel for ya