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Scott McD · 10-21-2007, 11:58 AM

Can it get any worse for them ??

sublimed · 10-21-2007, 12:02 PM

that's what fucked up owners and management will do to you.

Mutt · 10-21-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Can it get any worse for them ??

hopefully yes!

Profits of Doom · 10-21-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sublimed

that's what fucked up owners and management will do to you.

It really has nothing to do with the ownership. Wayne Huizenga has always been willing to put up the money and get out of the way and let the football people do their thing.

The draft has been the biggest problem. Several shitty drafts from the Wannstedt/Speilman and the Nick Saban regime (Randy Mueller was just a figurehead during Saban's reign) have left us with an old defense, an offensive line that wouldn't be backups on most teams, and a lot of young players that aren't living up to their promise...

bushwacker · 10-21-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

It really has nothing to do with the ownership. Wayne Huizenga has always been willing to put up the money and get out of the way and let the football people do their thing.

The draft has been the biggest problem. Several shitty drafts from the Wannstedt/Speilman and the Nick Saban regime (Randy Mueller was just a figurehead during Saban's reign) have left us with an old defense, an offensive line that wouldn't be backups on most teams, and a lot of young players that aren't living up to their promise...

Wayne doesn't give a fuck he raises ticket prices every year, and puts out a mediocre product. All he cares about is his bank account.

Profits of Doom · 10-21-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker

Wayne doesn't give a fuck he raises ticket prices every year, and puts out a mediocre product. All he cares about is his bank account.

How can you blame Wayne for putting out a mediocre product when he has no problem opening the checkbook for a coach or a premier player? When everyone thought Nick Saban was going to be the second coming he flew out to LSU and got the deal done. He shelled out a shitload of money for Joey Porter and didn't complain one iota, even though that has turned out to be a horrible move. Wayne does what a good owner should do, shells out the cash and gets out of the way of his football people. He didn't give a shit about the Marlins, but he definitely cares about the Dolphins...

DateDoc · 10-21-2007, 12:59 PM

I used to live in WPB but could never say I really took to the dolphins as a fan.

bushwacker · 10-21-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Profits of Doom

How can you blame Wayne for putting out a mediocre product when he has no problem opening the checkbook for a coach or a premier player? When everyone thought Nick Saban was going to be the second coming he flew out to LSU and got the deal done. He shelled out a shitload of money for Joey Porter and didn't complain one iota, even though that has turned out to be a horrible move. Wayne does what a good owner should do, shells out the cash and gets out of the way of his football people. He didn't give a shit about the Marlins, but he definitely cares about the Dolphins...

Hey cut me some slack i'm a disgruntled fins fan.

The Dawg · 10-21-2007, 01:03 PM

Bad management. It doesnt matter if Wayne spends $$$. Spending on BAD non-impact players, coaches, talent scouts and GMs is the problem.

A season ticket is ~$77 per home game now. $30 for parking and the Dolphins have been shitty for 10 years.

Long as the revenue is coming in Wayne could care less. Fill in the same for the Marlins & Panthers.

Profits of Doom · 10-21-2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker

Hey cut me some slack i'm a disgruntled fins fan.

Same here man, so I feel your pain. I don't live in So Fla anymore but I'm still suffering through it with you...

Profits of Doom · 10-21-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

Bad management. It doesnt matter if Wayne spends $$$. Spending on BAD non-impact players, coaches, talent scouts and GMs is the problem.

A season ticket is ~$77 per home game now. $30 for parking and the Dolphins have been shitty for 10 years.

Long as the revenue is coming in Wayne could care less. Fill in the same for the Marlins & Panthers.

Yes it has been bad management, but you can't really blame Huizenga there. He is an owner and not a football guy, so he does exactly what a good owner should, spend the money and get out of the way. When he owned the Marlins I agree he didn't give a shit after the first World Series win, but he honestly does care about the Dolphins. The revenue is coming in but he has no problem dishing it right back out. I lived outside Cincinnati almost 10 years, and that was the epitome of an owner that didn't give a shit prior to Marvin Lewis being hired as head coach. Mike Brown had a bare bones scouting department and was constantly under the salary cap but just pocketed the difference...

sublimed · 10-21-2007, 01:27 PM

I'm not sure about the owner but I know the decision making has been fucking horrible. Some notable fuck ups..

Culpepper
Green
Trading Ogunlye to bears for a washed up WR
Welker
Seau
Marcus Vick
Ted Gin Jr
Porter
Madison and Surtain, haven't had corners since them

Vitasoy · 10-21-2007, 01:39 PM

When they traded Chambers.. even their management gave up on them this year

bushwacker · 10-21-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

Bad management. It doesnt matter if Wayne spends $$$. Spending on BAD non-impact players, coaches, talent scouts and GMs is the problem.

A season ticket is ~$77 per home game now. $30 for parking and the Dolphins have been shitty for 10 years.

Long as the revenue is coming in Wayne could care less. Fill in the same for the Marlins & Panthers.

I agree 100%....fuckin guy is charging the fans like he has a superbowl contender. We are the worst team in the league and will be so for the next few years.

Snake Doctor · 10-21-2007, 03:05 PM

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I always liked you man, now you're on my list

bushwacker · 10-21-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vitasoy

When they traded Chambers.. even their management gave up on them this year

They made the right move there. They need to build for the future, and the only way to do that is thru. the draft. By the time they are a playoff team again, chambers will probably be in the twilight of his career. They might as well get something for him now when he has some value.

Snake Doctor · 10-21-2007, 03:14 PM

I'm amazed sometimes reading the comments on articles at the Miami Herald and similar sites of fans who want the current coach and GM fired.
They've only been on the job a few months for crying out loud.

This team is alot worse than people thought it would be, but only people living in fantasy land woud think a team that has no players left from the 2000, 2001, 2002, or 2003 drafts could have the talent or the depth to compete in this league. Those drafts should have produced 15-20 players that would form the core of your team....instead we have zero from there and have had to fill the roster spots basically with guys that weren't good enough to make other teams.

It's going to take a few years of solid drafts and player development to get this team back to playoff caliber, but I really like Randy Mueller and if you look at his track record there's definitely reason for hope.

Snake Doctor · 10-21-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bushwacker

They made the right move there. They need to build for the future, and the only way to do that is thru. the draft. By the time they are a playoff team again, chambers will probably be in the twilight of his career. They might as well get something for him now when he has some value.

I agree, we need the draft picks and Ginn needs the playing time.

I only wish they could have traded more guys for picks. Unfortunately with the way contracts and the salary cap work, it's really hard to trade players without fucking up the cap for both teams.

The Dawg · 10-21-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

It's going to take a few years of solid drafts and player development to get this team back to playoff caliber, but I really like Randy Mueller and if you look at his track record there's definitely reason for hope.

Given the Dolphins track record of evaluating talent and drafting... Its going to be a long time.

Snake Doctor · 10-21-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dawg

Given the Dolphins track record of evaluating talent and drafting... Its going to be a long time.

I said Randy Mueller's record. This is his first year as GM, if you look at his record you'll see solid success.

You can't say "oh the dolphins drafted bad for years so they're not gonna make good picks going forward" when the guys who made those picks are long gone.

Juilan · 10-21-2007, 09:16 PM

Draft next year will be a windfall the more they loose.

That way they can go shopping in Hawaii.
Get June Jones as Offenisve co.
Get Colt Brennan #1 pick
add 2 of his WR's (Bess, Rivers, Mullen)

And Presto you have the Miami Warriors.

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I'm amazed sometimes reading the comments on articles at the Miami Herald and similar sites of fans who want the current coach and GM fired. They've only been on the job a few months for crying out loud. This team is alot worse than people thought it would be, but only people living in fantasy land woud think a team that has no players left from the 2000, 2001, 2002, or 2003 drafts could have the talent or the depth to compete in this league. Those drafts should have produced 15-20 players that would form the core of your team....instead we have zero from there and have had to fill the roster spots basically with guys that weren't good enough to make other teams. It's going to take a few years of solid drafts and player development to get this team back to playoff caliber, but I really like Randy Mueller and if you look at his track record there's definitely reason for hope. __________________ sig too big

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sublimed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 339	that's what fucked up owners and management will do to you.

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The Dawg Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: State Of Bliss Posts: 2,438	Bad management. It doesnt matter if Wayne spends $$$. Spending on BAD non-impact players, coaches, talent scouts and GMs is the problem. A season ticket is ~$77 per home game now. $30 for parking and the Dolphins have been shitty for 10 years. Long as the revenue is coming in Wayne could care less. Fill in the same for the Marlins & Panthers.

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sublimed Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 339	I'm not sure about the owner but I know the decision making has been fucking horrible. Some notable fuck ups.. Culpepper Green Trading Ogunlye to bears for a washed up WR Welker Seau Marcus Vick Ted Gin Jr Porter Madison and Surtain, haven't had corners since them

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Juilan Sultan of Swing Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: XXXodus Posts: 15,141	Draft next year will be a windfall the more they loose. That way they can go shopping in Hawaii. Get June Jones as Offenisve co. Get Colt Brennan #1 pick add 2 of his WR's (Bess, Rivers, Mullen) And Presto you have the Miami Warriors. __________________ My Best Converting VOD Sponsor \|