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|  10-20-2007, 11:50 AM | #1 | 
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				Lunix distro's - what are you using?
			 Finally fed up with Windows and now its time to move onto a proper OS Been supporting windows professionally for 10 years, but now I am bored of the crashes and the freezing and IE falling over for no apparent reason I am new to Linux/Unix, but as a fall time IT Engineer I think I should be able to pick it up failry quickly What are you using and what would you recommend? 
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|  10-20-2007, 11:51 AM | #2 | 
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				 | Ubuntu... | 
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|  10-20-2007, 02:50 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Fedora 7. | 
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|  10-20-2007, 02:52 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Ubuntu and Debian, CentOS and Fedora, Slackware, Gentoo are fine.  FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, BSD/OS - but that one's lost to time. Oh, forget it, I'm hungry.. Bye all. 
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|  10-20-2007, 02:57 PM | #6 | 
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				 | Debian on the servers, Ubuntu on the laptop | 
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|  10-20-2007, 03:03 PM | #7 | 
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|  10-20-2007, 03:03 PM | #8 | 
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				 | real linux distro's (no ubuntu/kubuntu crap): slackware, vectorlinux or zenwalk. | 
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|  10-20-2007, 03:26 PM | #9 | 
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				 | you'll be happiest with ubuntu.. if your feeling feisty gentoo is pretty sweet too | 
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|  10-20-2007, 04:12 PM | #10 | 
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				 | It really sucks to have things 'just work', doesn't it? 
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|  10-20-2007, 04:16 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Go with Ubuntu. I've been a *nix user for well over 10 years now and I can tell you that it's the best desktop distro to date. Personally I would stick with 7.04. 7.10 has caused me all sorts of headaches. 
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|  10-20-2007, 04:22 PM | #12 | 
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				 | i cant install ubuntooooo with a ATI graphic carrd i cry niwwww | 
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|  10-20-2007, 04:36 PM | #13 | |
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 Do a normal install, and when it shits at the pre-install screen: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx sudo aticonfig --initial sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv /etc/init.d/gdm stop && /etc/init.d/gdm start Let it install, then rerun the above again after the machine is installed, reboots, and refuses to run. Then, call up Ice to fix the rest. 
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|  10-20-2007, 06:59 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Does anyone know how to make fonts look exactly the same as in Windows? Webpages and everything on the system. | 
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|  10-20-2007, 07:01 PM | #15 | 
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				 | Install the Microsoft Core Fonts package.  Every distro has this.  Then, if you want, copy the fonts over from your Windows installation for all of the new fonts.  I abuse Tahoma in my desktop because I'm really tired of X11's Sans Serif. 
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|  10-21-2007, 05:56 AM | #16 | 
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|  10-21-2007, 06:48 AM | #17 | 
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				 | Taking the plunge today, on my Averatec laptop... Wish me luck... I'm using the unetbooting and installing directly fromthe web since my CD drive is messing up (This laptop has been though hell...) 
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|  10-21-2007, 10:14 AM | #18 | 
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				 | what about drivers for your hardware? Getting drivers for windows systems is very easy, but how do you get on with ubuntu and the hardware on your machines? 
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|  10-21-2007, 10:17 AM | #19 | 
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				 | ubuntu and I love it | 
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|  10-21-2007, 11:11 AM | #20 | 
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				 | ubuntu yo 
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|  10-21-2007, 11:47 AM | #21 | 
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				 | Ok, so far no go with Ubuntu... but Im still trying. Tried it on my Averatec laptop, the CD burner is flacky, so had to use the unetbooting... of course my laptop overheated and locked up half way though and now is unbootable... SOOO I tore the fucking thing completely about.. Scavanged out the HD and tore and old Sony PCG-Fxa32 laptop I had laying around... It was pulled of my desk some years ago by my mastiff, and laanded on it side jamming the Pcmcia wireless card I had in it into the machine and destrying the Pcmcia cage and a few other things in the process... I stripped out all the broken pieces, Swapped the Old 6 gig HD with the Averitecs 80 Gig. Tore about a Linksys Wireless USA adaper and stuffed it components into the resulting hole where the PCmcia cage was. Soldered some broken connections back together, including he power connection... and wa la.. IThe maching is currently formatting the drive. I'm going to have to install xp on it, as the Ubuntu boot disk will not read, but boots, to the main screen then gives a disk IO error if I try to do the install. Once XP is up, I'll try again using unetbooting and see if I can get it to work. Fun fun fun...  
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|  11-14-2007, 02:59 AM | #22 | 
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				 | OpenSuse works better for me. Especially on a dual boot system with sata drives and ide drives the grub install from Suse is the only one which boots without problems after a linux install. But besides that, I think Ubuntu or Kubuntu are good options to start with. When you want to do some learning and take a more pure distro, I suggest Debian or Slackware. Those are the most stable and pure Linux distros I know. | 
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|  11-14-2007, 03:31 AM | #23 | 
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				 | go here  http://distrowatch.com/ this is a listing of just about all linux didtro's available. tells you what distro is stable and what is beta. you want the stable. also they list what packages come with each disro. packages = software. if you decide to install linux, might be a good idea to make it dual boot until you are comfortable with linux and everything works. me, I use mepis linux http://www.mepis.org/ install it and everything just works. | 
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|  11-14-2007, 03:40 AM | #24 | 
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				 | Using Slackware myself, but here at the office one of the guys uses Ubuntu and another uses Fedora. I'm not entirely sure about Slack anymore, but hey, it works and I don't have the time to reinstall a new OS anyway  
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|  11-14-2007, 04:48 AM | #25 | 
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				 | Ubuntu 7.10. It's too bad that the ATI drivers are so crappy. I tried to run World Of Warcraft under Wine in Ubuntu and I got like ~10 FPS everywhere. But I'm sure they'll get better soon since they release parts of the code as open source or something like that. But if you don't play games, it's great. 
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|  11-14-2007, 04:56 AM | #26 | 
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				 | I've heard there's a really good *Nix based operating system called .... O S X 
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|  11-14-2007, 05:13 AM | #27 | 
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				 | Ubuntu 7.10 is a nice distro, they have fixed many issues that I did not like. I would recommend Ubuntu for both Pros and Noobs ! Later, 
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|  11-14-2007, 05:22 AM | #28 | |
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				 | Quote: 
 You know Linux was being developed around the same time as Unix right ? . 
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|  11-14-2007, 05:25 AM | #29 | 
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				 | Never had any luke with the Ubuntu's...  and I wasn't overly impressed with them anyway. Fedora 8 with compiz-fusion... now this is a system. I haven't used Windows in a long time now. | 
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|  11-14-2007, 05:33 AM | #30 | 
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				 | I'm gonna go with Xubuntu soon + some kind of virtualization (Xen or VMware probably)... I don't care much that I'll get less than native performance in Windows that way, it's the fully replicated/compatible OS environment I'm after... If You didn't know, this means I can run a virtual "Windows computer" inside Linux  Then of course there's Wine as an option as well, but I need this *full* emulation. And Xubuntu... it's Ubuntu but with Xfce for the desktop rather than Gnome or KDE (as in Kubuntu). It's a lot leaner, and although my main machine can handle heavier desktops than that... I'm a bit of a performance freak  
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|  11-14-2007, 05:39 AM | #31 | 
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				 | Oh btw... (didn't make the edit timelimit) If You go with (K)/(X)Ubuntu... it might be safest to go with the "Feisty" release (v7.04), because there seems to be compability issues with common new hardware (graphics) in "Gutsy" (v7.10)..(!) 
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