TGP's and free porn?

RogerV this sounds great!

Hi RogerV,

If you can really get the support of all the sponsors you mentioned (6 already and up to 20), then this is very possible. In fact, I wish you the absolute best in your attempt, it would be a valient effort from one of the big players to help bring this industry back to the good old days where we could convert 1:100 on TGP's....

My hats to you Roger.

PS: Will you be @ Island Gathering in 2 weeks? Not sure if you could get on the Epoch Jet, I just wanted to see...

WG

Wake me up when the revolution begins,

thanks guys,

shemp

there is always way too much speculation on this. Truth is, its never ever going to happen.

You know the reasons.

I was going on the Private jet but I think it has to go into get a C check or something so flying commercial.

I think I can get all the sponsors to back it. there would be no reason for them not to.
And I hope the Tgp's and Freehosts etc. help us out.

And if it fails well we fuckin tried but I don't think it will. all of us have been talking about it for a while now. its not a new topic and its about time.

Its not a witch hunt or good guys versus bad guys its about all of us working together to make more money in the long run.
and people wouldn't charge back knowing they would be able to join another site or get it free anywhere.

less people will cancel on trials and maybe even stick around a few more months till they move on to the next site. This will only help out all of us.

No I don't.
tell me what the reason is?

for the record are you against it or not and why?

If the sponsors don't pay the webmasters posting hardcore galleries or showing Pink on your TGP what are you gonna do?

Its up to them to clean it up right? Are you against this Idea

i don't understand your comments

I dont make major business decisions at 02:00 in the morning.
I have never asked anyone to submit a hardcore gallery to me, nor have I ever rejected a gallery for being too softcore. The galleries now are no more hardcore than they were 4 years ago.
I do know that there are many paysites out there owned by TGP owners. I have played by the rules of the game and have got a very small share of the TGP market. I think being dictated to by paysite owners of what constitutes a "good gallery" would not be well received. It would encourage me to send my traffic elsewhere, perhaps to those sites that remained TGP friendly.

But as i said, it is too late for major decisons, this requires more thought and a whole lot more consultation,

regards

shemp

Heheh you think we would have all these paysites poping up
if it wasnt for tgp ?
If we removed all tgp traffic we would see ALOT of paysites
go down to

I never said remove the TGP's I think we do need them.

I think we just need to clean up the TGP's and freehost etc.
and the only way to do it cut of the money supply. before Visa and MC cut us off because of all the credits and chargebacks.


So we can all increase our bottom line and make more. once the sponsors get it rolling you will have a complete break down of why it is beneficial it won't effect anyones traffic and revenue only increase it.

Hey Roger if you truely want to do this you need to take into account that $$ talks.

Rather than say banning and trying to clean the streets with your NwO, perhaps you should set up a pay structure that ENCOURAGES this TGP behavior.

Perhaps a higher rate. Money talks, and this may be the only thing that gets tgp people to convert to your ideas. Offer the "good" tgps more $$ per signup.

If tgps see more $$ they will be lining up to change.

However if you and your top 20 big boys wanna shut out the tgps for having hardcore, some other paysite is gunna make bank catering to them all.

Banning them is not the idea.
Encouraging them to change and investing in this change is the way to go

I totally agree
but it has to start somewhere
If it gets cleaned up we can all afford to raise payouts and the traffic or the surfers value goes up for may reasons.

Both sides need to work to gether and make it happen
you know what I mean. and what if the Processors steps in on the one sponsor who caters to them and turns them off.

they won't be able to get there own merchant acount to handle
all the cancels and chargebacks

bingo.

Cause realistically, if the top 20 pay programs decided to ban me and my tgps because of the "TGP PC" you are cooking up, Id go to a site that does pay tgp webamsters and isnt part of this Union of paysites banning tgps.


And im sure there would be TONS of them.
Yo can almost see the ad slogans now for these tgp friendly paysites saying that they are TGP friendly.

It would be a big mess.

Like i said, if you want this to work and want to clean this all up, encouragement is the way to go.

Offer "approved" tgps this higher rate, and leading by example these tgps will set the standard for others.

But realistically, there will always be hardcore tgp with too much free shit even with this dynamic.

The writing is on the wall bro.
Free shit is happing at exponential groth rates.
the number of Pay sites are growing like mad, everyone and thier mother owns a fucking paysite now. Once you and your UNION wack out the tgps, are you going to go after next? all the paysites also?

If it isnt tgps, it will be kazza or morpheus. It if ist them it will be the growth of competing paysites. The market jsut isnt what it used to be. You can sit around and point fingers all day man, but face it the indusrty isnt what it used to be. What it used to be was the begining of an era. Its growing. And its goin to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Ive said this before and Ill say it again over and over.
Quality is the key. QUALITY is the only thing that will KEEP YOU ahead of the game. Quality is the only thing that will keep you IN the GAME. Ideas, creativity, Quality and marketing. Thats it.
I mean come on, it amazing these cookie cutter shit sites made the millions they did 4 years ago. Those days are over. Evolve and adapt or sink. Be better than the competition or move aside. Casue im tellin ya, and you know you see it, ideas and people getting in this biz are coming in and spreading like wildfire.


Weeding out this person and that person, and trying to gather up silly little unions of "big players" is just silly and not realistic.

The tide is coming in, and unless you build that house up higher its cunna get washed away by the growth and tide around you.