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Old 10-16-2007, 04:28 PM   #1
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If everyone hates The United States of America

Then why do we have an immigration problem?

Simple question, simple answer.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:31 PM   #2
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Is there really an immigration problem?.... or do Mexicans just want to create a problem because they can't get a free pass in? Other than that, there is no problem.
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Nobody hates the US...we all just hate the US Government. There is a big difference! :p
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Because Mexico doesn't invade sovereign countries?
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Then why do we have an immigration problem?

Simple question, simple answer.
That is not so...



the answer is far beyond simple...



it is also not what you portray here...
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If Mexico was directly attached to Canada, the US would still get the blame - at least in this forum.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:40 PM   #7
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Nobody hates the US...we all just hate the US Government. There is a big difference! :p
Exactly

Nobody hates what the US stood for... it was a good dream. Just like religion is appeals to what we want as humans. However the savage hypocrisy that is the American government stands nothing for what those ideals did. "Freedom" is not a privilege nor is it something to be manipulated by the will of a weak mass mind based on fear. This country is bound to fail because anything built on hypocrisy and tyranny is bound to fail eventually. It is just a matter of time. But to answer your question about immigration.... though it is shit on the inside to shit on the outside it looks like cream filling.
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Because Mexico doesn't invade sovereign countries?
They're too busy invading California and Texas
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Is there really an immigration problem?.... or do Mexicans just want to create a problem because they can't get a free pass in? Other than that, there is no problem.
Well I really do not think we (US) have an immigration problem and my wife works in the landscaping business with only American labor. She is not feeling any loss of work, or seeing anyone taking jobs. Hell she and her crews more than likely took jobs from Mexicans.

I also think that the Mexicans should get a free pass in and out. Like we really want to stop it anyways, cause we do not. The politicians make jestures, spend money to employ some unions, but stop it hell no. Stoping it would be just as hard as puting a case against Wal Mart or any other large company for hiring illegals, and no not some farm either. Not to mention isnt there supposed to be some sort of treaty with CA and Mexico? Fuck I do not recall anymore, I am just sick of the sillyness.

Now also keep in mind Mexico has a border problem to the south as well. Funny how that all works isnt it?
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Nobody hates the US...we all just hate the US Government. There is a big difference! :p
What he/she said.

I have nothing against Americans or the country itself. Had some great time down there and met incredible people too.
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As a US Immigrant I can say strongly:
If the USA changed their immigration policies and procedures, maybe there wouldn't BE an immigration problem.

Until YOU have gone through the process YOURSELF - you can kindly fuck off because you don't know the stress, cost and sacrifices involved in LEGALLY coming to this country.
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Because Mexico doesn't invade sovereign countries?
Are you sure about that?
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Until YOU have gone through the process YOURSELF - you can kindly fuck off because you don't know the stress, cost and sacrifices involved in LEGALLY coming to this country.

You see that's the point. You went through hell and high water to get here.

But yet ppl say the usa is this, that, and the other thing.
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Because Mexico doesn't invade sovereign countries?
Too late, see them at Home Depot all the time.
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You see that's the point. You went through hell and high water to get here.

But yet ppl say the usa is this, that, and the other thing.
Sadly in this world everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Most of the time, the average person should not be given this liberty because they are too fucking ignorant and uneducated to have an opinion worth giving.

That can be said for the ULTRA right wing "mexican (immigrant) haters" and the outside-the-us US sucks mongers.

Every country has its problems, policies and issues. The US just has more because it is the worlds superpower, trend setter and cash cow. If Morocco had the biggest economy, we would see "King MOHAMED VI sucks and so does Morocco! Stupid Egyptians sneaking across the border!!!"

Bla bla fuckity bla.

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Too late, see them at Home Depot all the time.
mad ignorant statement

I respect Mexican people illegal or legal... they work. As with any Latin American country this country is much better for them as individuals. The hypocrisy of America is that it professes freedom but practices tyranny, Latin American countries profess blatant tyranny. I respect a person or thing that says "fuck you I own you" more than some subversive ass who smiles in your face while stabbing you in your back. How can anyone disagree with that? Insanity!
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.
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Sadly in this world everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Most of the time, the average person should not be given this liberty because they are too fucking ignorant and uneducated to have an opinion worth giving.
There are also the issues stemming from people who may be educated and think that because they are educated that their opinion should hold more weight than others. Run into that a lot on this board. A lot of folks assume because your opinion is different from their obviously educated opinion, that you are ignorant. That shit gets to me too.

Come down a notch to reality and join the rest of us.
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.
Geography might just play an additional role.
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.
Last I checked there were at least 10 countries far happier than USandA. what makes you think that being a bully makes you "the best"?
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.
i hope thats sarcasm...

otherwise: america is nice - but there are also a lot of other nice places
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America has a problem of illegal immigrants coming in.
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How pathetic. Useless Americans always feel the need to make themselves feel so "in demand".
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.


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This is one reason, comments like this
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The word best is always subjective. Even us Americans know this. Hell I think the US is the best country as well. Guess that is personal pride, etc speaking as many other countries are great and I have nothing against them at all. Many are even better in many areas than the US. Does not really change ones subjective thoughts.
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They come to America in droves because America is by far the best country in the world.

Say what you want about our government - and our current president - but the truth is we are on top and everyone bitches about who is top dog. And until China decides to do something about it, well, that's the way it is.


Oh sheesh - clueless... who breeds em??

That shit is what makes people think US folks are just too dumb. Fortunately you are in the minority - else the country would be even more up shit creek.
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Agree

And add - can't stand the total stupidity of a mouthy ignorant minority, but they are everywhere. It prob just "appears" there are more in the US.
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Hey everyone look at the idiot that is trying to be funny with something he knows nothing about.

Fuck off fool.
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Gotta love people judging people based on imaginary lines drawn in the ground.
Hehe... these imaginary lines in the ground are "managed" by something called "leaders" - and they can be totally negative, and not just talking about the US. It's not uncommon elsewhere - idiocy prevails.
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Fuck off fool.
hey everyone look at headless spewing hatred again

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Spewing hatred? The guy posts a pic of me trying to me the comedian and I am not supposed to defend myself?

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Your second hand, lame attempts at trying to insult me suck.

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People never post the number of americans that leave the country.
Believe me it is much larger than most imagine.

Mexico and Canada get all our criminal fugitives and draft dodgers, in return they give us workers. Is that really a bad deal?

PS: some border control is in order because the last 20 years have been a flood gate.
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Anyone posting in this thread that has not visited at least 6-12 different countries shouldnt post if they do its like posting your comments on brain surgery .. now let the debate continue based on that rule!
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I kind of agree, but also think that someone who can't decide between "6" and "12" when used with "at least" isn't at the top of the logic chain.
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Spewing hatred? The guy posts a pic of me trying to me the comedian and I am not supposed to defend myself?

Please....
That is really you ????

I am so sorry ....
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:03 PM   #48
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Im going to take a good guess that you would rank as a idiot against my education and yours sortie.

I expanded the number 6-12 as the more countries you have visited meant the more experience you should have with 6 as a minimum .

I will also take a better guess based on your comment that I have visited more countries than you have,so I would just shut up now to save yourself looking stupid against a woman(think logical as you say!)
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:11 PM   #49
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Are we perfect? Hell, no. No country is.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:24 PM   #50
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The reason for all these people trying to get into America is probably, according to Cheney and Bush administration, that they all are trying to come here to fight us in the "homeland". Not because it is nice to live here. (which it is except for all the LA traffic)

Didn't you know that is why we fight them "there" instead?

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