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			It seems like every url and page I have ever brought to life gets ranked decently in Yahoo. But the traffic from Yahoo barely makes my dick hard. Google on the other hand may not always rank me as well, but they send much more traffic. What happened to Yahoo? Does it even matter anymore? 
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		 I get about 4 times more traffic from Google than Yahoo. I still look at Yahoo ranking, but focus most on Google 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Because, I thought it was just me and I needed to focus more on getting yahoo traffic. My directory listings dont even get anything worth thinking about. 
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		 Yahoo traffic is lesser in quantity but it buys better. Perhaps not enough to offset the difference in quantity compared to Google traffic, but it's definitely worth more per unique visitor. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Anyone want to sell me their useless yahoo traffic cheap? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 yahoo rule! love that kind of traffic - converts better than google 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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	my site is between 5th and 9th place for term "bondage" these days on google. it receives ~72k visits to all the site's pages monthly just from google and at the same time incomparably little amount from yahoo and it isn't banned there.  | 
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		 I personally find Yahoo has better buying traffic than Google.  I get far less but it still buys on par. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 yahoo does not convert better than google. Sorry. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 As long as considered buying, i don't think that there is some reason why someone using a specific search engine would not buy .. but its what I think, didn't analyzed so hard yet. 
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		 I have always found Yahoo traffic to be more productive than Google since the early days of the net. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 With equal ranking in both Google will net about 4-5 times the traffic. Some people claim yahoo converts better. I've never really noticed the difference, but with such a difference in the quantities it's hard to measure. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			One think I hate about Yahoo. Is even though they spider your site daily it takes forever for it to update it's index sometimes. I have one site that gets hits from yahoo to images and pages that haven't been on the server for well over a year now. 
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		 The PPC yahoo traffic converts a ton better than Google PPC traffic.  Google gets like 3x more traffic I think than yahoo but the quality of person using Yahoo is better.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have found that lately the Yahoo traffic is as productive as google, and often somewhat better. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			 To make such an arrogant assumption to cover all markets adult, and mainstream... makes your one ignorant mother fucker bitch. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I don't know if it converts better or worse, but there's certainly a lot less of it compared to google.  I tend to target google and, as a by-product, do as well as can be expected on yahoo.  Free traffic is free traffic. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Shoemoney just posted somthing like this the other day. Looks like bad days for Yahoo 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 We are always focusing on Google traffic which goes without saying. (figures I just said it), but Ill take Yahoo traffic too  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 ![]()  ... You sir are an ignorant mother fucker for not seeing through your own statement. By the post I assumed we were talking about adult traffic. We are on a adult webmaster board are we not you fuck tard. We are all basing our OPINIONS on our previous experience and knowing that I have hundreds of first page listings in both SE's I would say i can voice my own opinion on the market. You might try acting like a badass to the original post maker (pornwolf) but your too much of a pussy seeing as he pretty much said the same thing as myself just in different words. I say once again Google traffic converts much better than yahoo.
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		 BTW the second part of my last post was aimed at guy who has to push billing companies in his sig. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Thank you for clarifying that, however, since I may have your attention . . . many of us deal with mainstream as well as adult, and as ASM suggested, if that damn Yahoo traffic is becoming a burden, I will gladly take it off your hands for a minimal charge. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 ![]() ![]() Now that you ignorance was addressed. The only reason it peeked my attention is that it's common sense a lot of this board deals with adult and mainstream. Something your ASSumption was incorrect about. Secondly, depending on the type of site, or what you are referring to. Some convert better with MSN, and Yahoo versus Google. If you talk to any mainstream SEO or people who've been in the business a number of years they can explain the demographics, and conversions based on the offers and what you are selling. Typically you will get less traffic with the others. But they conversions (again depending on what it is) will be better. Google may have more traffic and click throughs. But your conversions ratio may be less, but have more sales. This is all a numbers game. But for anyone who wants to talk in "absolutes" from their ass saying something like this for example, "yahoo does not convert better than google." Should be corrected as you have been. The point was simple. Depending on the site, product, or market. Some convert better with Yahoo/MSN, and some with Google. For overall traffic only (adult thinking) Google is king. ![]()  | 
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 "yahoo does not convert better than google." You just took 400 more words to say it. 
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 i got nearly 4 times less yahoo traffic and have totally the same number of sales, according to the stats. so i say: my vote for yahoo! 
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		 No argument that Google has way more traffic than Yahoo. You just need to find the keyword phrases in Yahoo that have higher search volumes than Google does for the same phrase. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Blanket statements like this are ridiculous. Ask 100 site owners / analysts who monitor this in detail and you'll get plenty of arguments for both SEs. Way too many factors to simply say one converts better than the other ... though I'd be willing to bet they BOTH convert better than Kanoodle - for anything ;) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 whats your experience? 
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		 Not worth the effort TBH.    I messed around with most of them a while ago but found that the amount of traffic wasn't enough to deal with them seriously.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Not to mention there is a high percentage of fake/crappy traffic from some of them. It's best to spend the time maximizing your Google/Yahoo paid clicks... and if you do mainstream Microsoft's Adcenter as well. That will take a nice amount of time in itself. 
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		 yahoo traffic converts better than 70% of my other traffic.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 You were the one who claimed your the man in SEO SERP results bitch... remember this little gem... "Originally Posted by notoldschool knowing that I have hundreds of first page listings in both SE's" YOU post the proof. Don't try and back peddle out of this. Get that foot out of your mouth, and start backing up your claims. ![]() ![]() ![]()  | 
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		 yahoo traffic is still decent....just not a ton of it... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I do well with yahoo traffic.  My listings just go up and down a lot there. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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