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DEA - banned for life · 10-15-2007, 03:04 PM

Revshare Vs PayPerJoin ..Which is better? what do you use?

me perosnally i never used a revshare program...so i really have nothing to go on.it seems alot of revshare prgrams are now 60% or even higher so im wondering how everyonelse does with revshare ..and whar programs there using.

seeric · 10-15-2007, 03:06 PM

this is gonna be a good thread.

st0ned · 10-15-2007, 03:22 PM

I always found myself asking the same question. I think it all depends on traffic quality and the content on the site you are promoting. With targeted traffic I tend to do revshare as the rebills are generally good. With traffic that isn't so targeted I will do PPS. Also, if the sponsor doesn't update the site very often, you can assume retention won't be that great so it might be a good idea to do PPS. This of course differs from sponsor to sponsor.

Sometimes it might be good to start with revenue share, see how member retention is, and base your decision off of that. But if you are getting like $30 CPA, you could make $30 off of that person if they rebill only once ($15 avg/month depending on rev percentage and monthly fee), then have the opportunity to earn additional money on them if they continue their membership. I've heard some webmasters say they got out of Adult years ago but still get checks from rebilling customers.

basschick · 10-15-2007, 03:26 PM

i use 'em both. some sites - usually large sites that update regularly or micro niche sites - rebill like crazy.

Worldnet · 10-15-2007, 03:29 PM

Pay per join always. I want the cash now, and not take a chance on some program disappearing, or finding an excuse not to pay(remember AC, and a few others?).

1off · 10-15-2007, 03:33 PM

Depends on the program. If they won't give you access to the member's area, then PPS all the way.

For quality sites like Naughty America, Revshare is like having a money tree that grows every month!

the Shemp · 10-15-2007, 03:33 PM

ive used mostly revshare, but you have to pick your sponsors carefully ...

ridikuloz · 10-15-2007, 03:51 PM

If the site has very good content and is frequently updated... then rev share.

other than that... PPS :D

After Shock Media · 10-15-2007, 04:13 PM

Depends on the site and the size of the niche.

Some even large sites in major niches like teen can still be more profitable via rev-share. (rare)

So most large company sites, always PPS unless they are special like above.

Now any small niche or whatnot and show me they update often I am all about rev share. I know how long micro niche and fetish sites that are devoted to a given niche retain.

Lastly if you can tell a site is made for PPS, always go PPS, take the consoles whatever. Just do not promote it with your prime bookmarker traffic or they will leave you.

As for the whole 50 or now 60 percent thing. Watch that one anyways. Some do it out of not knowing better or thinking it will give them an edge gaining affiliates. Others may be hiding the full fee they could pass on to you and you could be making less than 50, others may split that fee.

TDF · 10-15-2007, 04:15 PM

it all depends upon the site

DEA - banned for life · 10-15-2007, 08:25 PM

hmm im surprised by the responces...like i previously stated ive never advertised for anything but pay per sales and always thought revshare was going to make me less in the long run....i was obviouslly a little to close minded in my thinking because ive read some valid points here on using revshare

Snake Doctor · 10-15-2007, 08:35 PM

Arkantiger · 10-15-2007, 08:36 PM

depends on the sites..

DEA - banned for life · 10-15-2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

i dont get it?

Snake Doctor · 10-15-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ridikuloz

If the site has very good content and is frequently updated... then rev share.

other than that... PPS :D

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Originally Posted by TDF

it all depends upon the site

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Originally Posted by Arkantiger

depends on the sites..

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Originally Posted by st0ned

Also, if the sponsor doesn't update the site very often, you can assume retention won't be that great so it might be a good idea to do PPS.

These type of responses always baffle me.

If a site sucks so bad that you don't think it will retain members, how do you think they can make enough money to pay you $35+ per signup?

A site is either good enough to promote or it isn't. Once you've figured that out then you just need to decide if you want less money, but all upfront, or more money but over a long period of time.

fuzebox · 10-15-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

These type of responses always baffle me.

If a site sucks so bad that you don't think it will retain members, how do you think they can make enough money to pay you $35+ per signup?
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A site is either good enough to promote or it isn't. Once you've figured that out then you just need to decide if you want less money, but all upfront, or more money but over a long period of time.

Come on, you're not new... There's a lot more ways to monetize traffic on top of billing the trial + conversion.

Snake Doctor · 10-15-2007, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Come on, you're not new... There's a lot more ways to monetize traffic on top of billing the trial + conversion.

Oh you mean popping a dozen consoles or trying to hide prechecked cross sales so that the surfer who doesn't notice them gets billed over $100 3 days later?

I don't send traffic to those companies anyways, and if you care about the long term viability of what we do for a living, you won't either.

DEA - banned for life · 10-16-2007, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

These type of responses always baffle me.

If a site sucks so bad that you don't think it will retain members, how do you think they can make enough money to pay you $35+ per signup?

A site is either good enough to promote or it isn't. Once you've figured that out then you just need to decide if you want less money, but all upfront, or more money but over a long period of time.

Funny how posted a razor pic about a year ago concerning a company you previously worked for and u cliamed they didn shave...wonnder if you still feel the same way now?

Snake Doctor · 10-16-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DEA

Funny how posted a razor pic about a year ago concerning a company you previously worked for and u cliamed they didn shave...wonnder if you still feel the same way now?

I never once said they didn't shave....even when I was giving you and the rest of the epic hating posse hell back then.

I have no "insider" knowledge on that subject, but if you follow the links in my sig you'll see what I think about it now.

RogerV · 10-16-2007, 04:18 PM

I promote both but I prefer PPS. get my money up front unless its a reputable rev-share program i can trust

StarkReality · 10-16-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

If a site sucks so bad that you don't think it will retain members, how do you think they can make enough money to pay you $35+ per signup?

Easy answer: xsells, upsells, consoles with third party sites, former member mailings, sometimes even selling member data, referring webmasters to new programs via mailings

gecko · 10-16-2007, 04:28 PM

PPS in general

VeriSexy · 10-16-2007, 04:43 PM

Paypersign up unless it's a solo girl site

Snake Doctor · 10-16-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by StarkReality

Easy answer: xsells, upsells, consoles with third party sites, former member mailings, sometimes even selling member data, referring webmasters to new programs via mailings

Already addressed this. Thanks for the drive by.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Oh you mean popping a dozen consoles or trying to hide prechecked cross sales so that the surfer who doesn't notice them gets billed over $100 3 days later?

I don't send traffic to those companies anyways, and if you care about the long term viability of what we do for a living, you won't either.

Vitasoy · 10-16-2007, 09:07 PM

It really depends on the site, but if I had to pick one... PPS

Czech · 10-16-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by st0ned

I always found myself asking the same question. I think it all depends on traffic quality and the content on the site you are promoting. With targeted traffic I tend to do revshare as the rebills are generally good. With traffic that isn't so targeted I will do PPS. Also, if the sponsor doesn't update the site very often, you can assume retention won't be that great so it might be a good idea to do PPS. This of course differs from sponsor to sponsor.

Sometimes it might be good to start with revenue share, see how member retention is, and base your decision off of that. But if you are getting like $30 CPA, you could make $30 off of that person if they rebill only once ($15 avg/month depending on rev percentage and monthly fee), then have the opportunity to earn additional money on them if they continue their membership. I've heard some webmasters say they got out of Adult years ago but still get checks from rebilling customers.

Good advice, sounds near to spot on

SomeCreep · 10-16-2007, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA

Revshare Vs PayPerJoin ..Which is better? what do you use?

me perosnally i never used a revshare program...so i really have nothing to go on.it seems alot of revshare prgrams are now 60% or even higher so im wondering how everyonelse does with revshare ..and whar programs there using.

I use a combination of both. The majority of the time, I opt for PPS, but ask any experienced webmaster and they'll tell you the same. There are a handful of sponsors which generate much more per signup using revshare.

alby_persignup · 10-17-2007, 03:51 AM

PPS of course

divine116 · 10-17-2007, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DEA

i dont get it?

how about corned beef?

xsabn · 10-17-2007, 06:57 AM

revshare... i promote cams

ShellyCrash · 10-17-2007, 07:05 AM

It depends on the site and what you are looking to get out of it.

If you need to see a quick return on your investment, PPS is the way to go- but if you're working with a sticky site you will make more money with Revshare.

There are factors that contribute / you need to weigh- for example you should make sure they pay on renewals so you're getting a true revshare, etc.

I find that recurring revenue is key, reshare is usually the way to go

10-15-2007, 03:04 PM	#1
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	Revshare Vs PayPerJoin ..Which is better? what do you use? Revshare Vs PayPerJoin ..Which is better? what do you use? me perosnally i never used a revshare program...so i really have nothing to go on.it seems alot of revshare prgrams are now 60% or even higher so im wondering how everyonelse does with revshare ..and whar programs there using.

10-15-2007, 03:22 PM	#3
st0ned Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 8,437	I always found myself asking the same question. I think it all depends on traffic quality and the content on the site you are promoting. With targeted traffic I tend to do revshare as the rebills are generally good. With traffic that isn't so targeted I will do PPS. Also, if the sponsor doesn't update the site very often, you can assume retention won't be that great so it might be a good idea to do PPS. This of course differs from sponsor to sponsor. Sometimes it might be good to start with revenue share, see how member retention is, and base your decision off of that. But if you are getting like $30 CPA, you could make $30 off of that person if they rebill only once ($15 avg/month depending on rev percentage and monthly fee), then have the opportunity to earn additional money on them if they continue their membership. I've heard some webmasters say they got out of Adult years ago but still get checks from rebilling customers. __________________ Conversion Sharks - 1,000+ adult dating offers, traffic management, and consistently high payouts. We will guarantee and beat your current EPC to win your dating traffic! Skype: ConversionSharks \|\| Email: info /@/ conversionsharks.com Last edited by st0ned; 10-15-2007 at 03:23 PM..

10-15-2007, 03:26 PM	#4
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10-15-2007, 03:33 PM	#6
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10-15-2007, 03:33 PM	#7
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10-15-2007, 03:06 PM	#2
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10-15-2007, 03:29 PM	#5
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	Pay per join always. I want the cash now, and not take a chance on some program disappearing, or finding an excuse not to pay(remember AC, and a few others?).

10-15-2007, 03:51 PM	#8
ridikuloz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ▓NY▓ Posts: 2,080	If the site has very good content and is frequently updated... then rev share. other than that... PPS :D __________________ Each persons' level of stupidity makes us different.

10-15-2007, 04:13 PM	#9
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Depends on the site and the size of the niche. Some even large sites in major niches like teen can still be more profitable via rev-share. (rare) So most large company sites, always PPS unless they are special like above. Now any small niche or whatnot and show me they update often I am all about rev share. I know how long micro niche and fetish sites that are devoted to a given niche retain. Lastly if you can tell a site is made for PPS, always go PPS, take the consoles whatever. Just do not promote it with your prime bookmarker traffic or they will leave you. As for the whole 50 or now 60 percent thing. Watch that one anyways. Some do it out of not knowing better or thinking it will give them an edge gaining affiliates. Others may be hiding the full fee they could pass on to you and you could be making less than 50, others may split that fee. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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10-15-2007, 08:25 PM	#11
DEA - banned for life V.I.P. Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: InYour Head Posts: 7,886	hmm im surprised by the responces...like i previously stated ive never advertised for anything but pay per sales and always thought revshare was going to make me less in the long run....i was obviouslly a little to close minded in my thinking because ive read some valid points here on using revshare

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10-16-2007, 04:18 PM	#20
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	I promote both but I prefer PPS. get my money up front unless its a reputable rev-share program i can trust Last edited by RogerV; 10-16-2007 at 04:20 PM..

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10-16-2007, 09:07 PM	#25
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	It really depends on the site, but if I had to pick one... PPS __________________ [email protected]

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10-17-2007, 06:57 AM	#30
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10-17-2007, 07:05 AM	#31
ShellyCrash Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,708	It depends on the site and what you are looking to get out of it. If you need to see a quick return on your investment, PPS is the way to go- but if you're working with a sticky site you will make more money with Revshare. There are factors that contribute / you need to weigh- for example you should make sure they pay on renewals so you're getting a true revshare, etc. I find that recurring revenue is key, reshare is usually the way to go __________________ Start making money with the hottest hookup site! up to $55 PPS or up to 75% Revshare ICQ 196766477