hahahahahaha - ofcourse you have player, ofcourse you have :1orglaugh

LOL dumbfuck newbie. You think i'm the only one here with a $10,000/day epass ATM limit?

Shut your mouth and go spend your welfare check on some gallery spots. :1orglaugh

Can I interest you in a bridge or some swampland? I take epass.

:1orglaugh epassporte would not approve

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I notice a distinct lack of "update your password" in that keyword list.

Actually I have $5k in an account I was having trouble getting out. I'm gonna try again this week.

Forget DEA's concerns over changing the info, not knowing it was not FDIC insured ect. Someone, anyone please answer just one issue about this, and it does not even matter how someone got his password.

How does someone enter into an account transfer that amount of money to another (presumed hacked account) transfer again (possible) and be able to withdraw the cash before epassporte can not stop or at least trace the theft?

Keep in mind accounts have a max amount per transaction (ussually default unless you send in mounds of paperwork).
Accounts can only send so many times per day (ussually default unless you send in mounds of paperwork).
Accounts have a max withdraw amount via ATM per day (ussually default unless you send in mounds of paperwork).
Accounts take weeks to get ATM cards.

How did they get it all out so fast and why is it not traceable via epassporte?

Hate being last post in a page.

Fitty Frauds:(

suddenly, too many epass haters this last few days

That sucks man... But I don't think you can put all the blame on epass for that, if paypal and epassporte absorbed the cost of fraud they would have been out of business a long time ago.

i think alot of people in this thread seem to be satisfied with "mediocre"

epassporte is a very usefull service , but it could be BETTER.

Lets just say DEA was completely to blame. Lets say he left his cashcard in the machine with his pin number written on the back.. Does this give someone the right to steal the money ? of course not. so don't you think the bank should at the very least perhaps help him out and give the videotape of the thief to the police ?

whomever got the cash in this place had to have an address , thats a start.. and to get that amount of money out at once they would have to have sent extra identification. , match that with some ip logs and any rookie cop should be able to bust these guys pretty simple.


Not doing ANYTHING just lets the thief know they dont care so they will obviously do it again

I highly doubt there are many ATM's that are loaded with $10k

I have 25 bucks in my epass account... That's the highest amount of cash I will leave in there...(Normally there's just $5 and some change sitting there.) When it gets above that I transfer it immediately!

haha dont hate because I know you are full of shit.

Own me with a screen shot Mr I Empty Atm's :1orglaugh

how to i close a epass acct anyways?

First try to get them to even remove an expired card :Oh crap
Apparently nothing is deletable.

most real ones that wouldnt be a problem , but getting it out a full 10k is

many banks will limit the max a non-user can take out so they would give you 1k and try to put 9k back on the card , which would fail and you end up with endless hassles getting your money out..

i found it out the hard way, i forget the exact message but it was along the lines of " machine out of cash" it gave me part of the money and send "reversing funds" , when i checked my epass , the full amount had been taken out. i called epass , they said "talk to the bank" , i asked the bank they said " talk to your credit card company" hah

silly thing was , right after this happened i told the guy behind me ." dont try to take any money out , it said it was out of cash" and he tried it anyways and took out $200 just fine.. i think they just didnt want to give out all the cash the machine had .. makes sense kinda

They do business here. They are subject to our laws. Just like fucking PayPal.


ePass sucks. Good job on the site. You already have my thread.

Minusonebit they are subject to "some" of the United States laws when it comes to doing business here, not all laws, and certainly being FDIC insured is not a law nor even a requirement.

However I still need my one question answered by any of the haters or epass itself. Forget the info change, forget the flags, forget the lost password, forget the email notifications. Just answer my one question. (see post 49-50)

My guess is multiple accounts. I know it wouldn't take too long for me to get a dozen accounts from different sponsors, and then 2 weeks to have all the cards mailed to me.

Guessing multiple accounts still doesnt work well.

Then sent the full 5k to one account (hacked we shall presume) they are a personal account and lets presume default info. They can only send out 500 at a time, five times total per day. That is only 2500 of the 5000.00 accounted for. Not going any deeper transaction wise either or through more hacked accounts.

Keep in mind he was on the phone quickly.

Man some of you guys are rough!

It kind of amazes me how so many can blame the ?victim? in this. Kind of makes me think of when a girl gets raped and somebody shouts "she was asking for it!"

I just think that if this was PayPal... this thread would have a totally different tune.

Banks and credit card companies absorb the cost of fraud all of the time. That's why they have full-time departments dedicated to catching fraud, so they don't lose money. They actually have a reason to bust these guys.

Like Smokey said... doing absolutely nothing shows that they care little about fraud. Not absorbing fraud, means they have absolutely no reason to even care.

do you think Chio the pirate has something to do with it? LMAO

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It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Paypal isn't FDIC insured either.

Sounds to me like they are actually FDIC insured?

http://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cm...l/FDIC-outside

Everyone is assuming the money is withdrawn, cash. That's not confirmed by Epassporte and not necesarily true. Try thinking it through, and I'll help you since most of you will need it.

From the way I understand of the daily limits, yes you have a limit on how much cash you can withdraw in a day. This is true for everyone, and I think the highest "easy" limit to get ist he select account. Around $600 a day. So how can the thieves withdraw the cash from the hacked accounts and side step such limitations? They don't have to.

Check your Virtual Visa limits:

Load Limit US$1,000.00 US$1,000.00
Single Cash Transaction Amount US$1,000.00 US$1,000.00
Number of Transactions 20 20
Number of Loads 10 10

Notice that while there's a limit to the number of transactions and the maximum of each trasnsaction, there's no limit to the total.

If I hack your Epassporte account and transfer money from stolen account, to stolen account, all I need on the end is a merchant that will accept virtual visa, perhaps from some Eastern European Block country, or other shit hole and bam they can hit up a single account through Visa for up to 20K.

Impossible you say? Think back to the various GFY posts over the last little while of people complaining about fraudulent virtual visa transacations. If my considerable memory serves me, as it usually does, Epassporte's position on each of those instances was basically "They had the credit card number, the CVV2 and the address. We can not reverse a virtual visa transaction.".

Yes, I'm not only smarter than you but I'm much better looking too.

One minor problem is that visa transactions take a few days to clear, and can be charged back at any time? So, if this strategy was actually used, epass would be able to recover the funds...

No, it can't be charged back at any time. You'd think that, but as far as I can remember, it can't be. Epassporte's position has been in the past that if a transaction has the proper card number, address AND cvv2 number, that there's nothing they can do. They're not actually Visa.

To top it off, if they're using a stolen account as a middle, which you would assume they are, that person might not know there's anything wrong. Imagine if I transfer $5000 to your epass, then hit it for 5 $1000 transactions right away. You log in, nothing's changed. Same balance. Presumably you might not even know the transactions were done.

Then if that is the case and it is instant and non reversable and so forth "their position as you say".

Why transfer it to another account first before cashing out? It is not like you need to cover your tracks. Hell it would be even more secure, just 1 login, 1 ip. so forth. Just suck him dry via virtual visa, he couldnt do anything about it anyways right?

Because you'd need the cvv2 number, which I don't believe is stored in the actual epassporte account. So you'd need complete information for one account, maybe one you create yourself so you know the cvv2 number. You could then trasnfer from multiple accounts that you had only the passwords for in to your account that you had the full information for.

This is all just speculation, but it seems to fit.

I am going to go check as I am not sure but I am fairly certain it is also in your email somewhere. brb.

Well they send you an email originally with it. Or else they used to. But you're supposed to delete that I believe. Anyway have a look around your account, see if your Cvv2 is available anywhere.

Taken from my epassporte email center which I doubt many delete their emails and all the frauds seem to get transfered first.

My Name,

Your purchase of the ePassporte Visa Virtual is approved!

The ePassporte Visa Virtual may be used anywhere on the worldwide web to make secure purchases and helps you protect your personal financial information.

Expand your purchase power by requesting an ePassporte Visa Electron card. The Visa Electron card can be used to withdraw funds at any ATM on the Visa and PLUS networks, or to make purchases at most Visa merchant terminals around the globe. For more information about the advantages of an ePassporte Visa Electron please visit www.epassporte.com/electroncard.

Visa Virtual Details

Visa Virtual Card Number: 46890450XXXXXXXX (those X's are not there)
Expiration Date: XX/2007 (X's not there)
CVV2 Number: XXX (X's not there)

IMPORTANT:
Please keep all of this information in a safe place.

More standard text here....

I deleted that email after recording the info. That's what it said to do :)