Damn this all sux...

Thanks for the info. I must say that WS_FTP LE sucks big time for chmod of files... it remembers the last file permission set the LAST time you set them. It DOES NOT show you the current permissions of the file you clicked on... completely unintuitive.

So, your dreamweaver is secure in uploading files?

Buran, thank you for all of your useful information... (and people say GFY is no good for anything! bah!)... yes, this has been a wake up call for me to realize that every damn comminucation that I have been using uses plain text to send password. I feel stupid for not knowing this, but I assumed in this day and age that this would already be taken care of with any OS that was made in the past 5 years. I guess I assumed wrong.

I have no problems dumping WS FTP, I was only using the LE edition anyway, and it was bad. If anyone can confirm that the PRO version is any better, then please let me know. The makers of WS FTP sure cannot tell me the differences, so I must assume they are minimal, and thus they have given me no reason to buy it.

Yes it does... and I really hope this thread is not just educating me.

My damned password was being transmitted over the net 50 times a day... this was a bomb waiting to explode; it was bound to happen. You all should think about this.

I know, I hate being bothered by hackers.


So... to recap...

4 FTPing, use SFTP
4 TELNETing, use SSH or SSH2

anything else while it's on your mind?

ok i am bout to get a headache,,
my lack of server knowledge and this thread
is scaring me

After you CHMOD your files in WS_FTP try refreshing the directory... that works for me...

Yes, DreamweaverMX has a SSH plugin called PUTTY that is secure. I'm not sure about the ealier versions.

I already have one. Fucking hackers. :feels-hot

The lesson here is if you are insecure, you will eventually get hacked... it is only a matter of time.

PuTTy :thumbsup

The WS_FTP server can use SSL. It is probably one of the only secure ftp servers out there that isn't sftp. I think the pro version of the client is needed to work over SSL .

SSH is much better then Telnet. Get rid of telnet and stick with ssh.

KD

WS FTP doesn't show the file permissions, unless you press 'dir info', which shows you a dir listing in a text file. Why can't it show the permissions on the screen? And when you click a file to change permissions, it shows the permissions of the last file you set permissions on, so you THINk that this new files has those permissions because it is unintuitive. What exactly would refreshing the directory do? You're using PRO, right? I'm talking about LE.

Sounds good...

It's funny that I was jus telling the makers of WS FTP LE all the bugs in the program that I hate (like it's inability to deal with files that have a space in them, and some other problems I have mentioned in this thread), and I told the girl that I would never purchase the PRO version unless it had fixed these bugs. She couldn't tell me if it had or not... just that it was 'better', and that I shouldn't judge the PRO version of the software based on the LE edition.

....ok. How about I rate you, then... :321GFY

anyone know anything about FlashFXP? If so, is it ok to use? :helpme

I don't believe it, why do people have to hack? I mean seriously what's the point? Is there some dood sitting in his "speacial hacking chair" giggling to...himself? I can see it now.

"Muhahaha, those jerks! I'll teach them to overload me with banners and pop-ups! Muhahaha"

Somebody needs to move out of his mom's basement

Some hackers (as opposed to crackers) do it for the thrill and to show people what could happen... I hope to god that this dude did this to me to show me the flaws of the net. But, he didnt show me how he did it, I just figured it was via sniffing since I just found out that I had all of this insecurities with my setup. But, maybe he was just trying to show that my server was not hack-proof, in fact, it was easily hackable, and thus I have a better server now, and it won't happen to me again (this easily, anyway). So, for that, I thank the guy. I also thank him for not running "rm *" heh.... yeah.

imagine what you could do if you could hack some big site and replace their affiliate code with yours - randomly, so there's less of a chance of getting caught. you could make some good money for a while. the webmaster might just think they're having a slow month.

roflmao :thumbsup

I don't think it would take long to get caught doing something like that...

You're right... I usually go to CHMOD to show what it's set at instead of dirinfo... then you have to refresh the screen after you do any actions like copy, move, CHMOD to see the updates... you said you were not seeing the updated permissions? Thats would be the reason...

If you haven't tried F-Secure yet, I'd suggest checking it out... They have a free download and trial and I think you'll really like their File Transfer utility better than WS_FTP...

How do I protect my outlook-using, plain-text-sending, pop3-protocoling server-downloading email-checking?

WS FTP LE doesn't show any file permissions, unless you click on dir info. I thought when you went to change file permissions, the box that pops up would show the current file permissions, but it shows the permissions that were last set (of whatever file that was) while using this box...

Yes, I know you have to refresh after everything - another reason why WS FTP sucks. Once you change a file, and upload it, the timestamp is the same, so when you change the file again, and reupload it, it thinks you are overwritten the file with the same file, and gives that stupid message (are you sure?)... very annoying. I know this can be turned off, but I don't want it to be - to make sure I don't do anything stupid. The window should simply refresh so this function works 100% of the time.

I will try F-secure, thank you.