Because they are poor and desperate.
The process to obtain work permits and/or become a citizen needs to be streamilined so it's not such a nightmare. This is the root of the problem. Make it easier for people and you'll see more compliance.
Move out of the ghetto. The mexicans in my neighborhood are hardworking family people.

You are so right. No one wants to pay 10 bucks for a head lettuce.

yeah! immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans..........


I'd have to say.... If you are an American, who was born in this country........and yet you are applying for the same job a wetback who just came into this country (2 hours ago) is applying for.........(take in consideration that this wetback speaks almost NO ENGLISH)......AND HE GETS THE JOB.............WTF does that make you????? :winkwink:

American's level of education should be way above those who come into these country illegally .. so that they won't be able to compete with you for the same job ...... if they do then you are working at MacDonald's, Home Depot or some sort of place like that...

I do not support illegal immigration (insert tax reasons here), but the "job argument" is very weak........just my 2 cents....:thumbsup

I agree..........that's one hell of a post mon :thumbsup

People say government signs shouldnt be in spanish. My mother-in-law gave my wife some old family keepsakes. We have a very old photograph of my wifes great grandparents wedding portrait from the late 1800's,they were part of the wave of german immigrants. Now here is the kicker, Mom brings the marriage license. They were married in the USA in the state of WI this is a state document. The documents are all in german not english.Its the same old song. lol

Another thing from your post that made me wonder...

Soft administration? Are we talking about the same one that has gone to war based on lies and that supports torture? This could be a totally different subject of discussion but comments like those make your whole rant seem a little bit more ignorant than what already looks like.

This administration is nothing but soft, if I was to pick one administration to agree with your point of views and actually act on it, it would be the current one, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

You are defending the problem many American people feel is wrong.it's bullshit how hundreds cross everyday and yet the American government want's to implement Canadian planes that fly over any American land without having the proper documentation from everybody on that plane..where is their priorities?

chupa chupa
 

If you did that ( California at least ) would literally shut down.

... all the farm workers yes ... gone
... all the maids at the hotels ... gone
... everybody at the car wash is ... gone
... the swap meets and 99 cent stores just went out of business
... all the business that provide services to immigrants ... gone
... every Carls Junior Employeee gone ...
... all the landscapers and day laborers .... gone

and what about the people that don't know two shits about Mexico and have no papers in either country. that speak fluent English. They are here because the system allowed it. We all reaped the benefits of it and now it is biting us in our culo !:Oh crap

Ray, next time you out drinking in NYC or eating dinner , go back in the kitchen and see who’s cooking your “Italian” pasta or makin “Japanese” sushi.. You know why they are doing that?? Because of something you should have learned if you ever bothered to graduate from college. Its called economy of scale. it’s the same fucking reason why your shoes made in china, your designer shirt in Macao, and your genuine Ipod from Hong Kong.. Get a fucking clue and stop pushing porn.. There are dishwasher jobs to be filled with TRUE AMERICANS…. At $7 bucks an hour…

"where is their priorities?" is that correct English? It shouldn't be where ARE their priorities?

I am just asking, English is my third language asswipe.

Never let the man hold you down

oh yeah I forgot the mention.

... Restaurants ... GONE !

fucking idiots. In this day in age you have to think globally, where ever you are born it is an accident.. you have no say over that. You feel superior because you were born on US soil? WHat if you were born in south Africa somewhere and had nothing. Be grateful for what you have and just think for a second sometimes. People in general will always chase the greener grass, isn't that why you run sites and try to make a better life? So are these people, but just because your dumb ass was born on US soil you will paint your face black and blow away everyone that is in your path.. You are an idiot

no, he's not an illegal immigrant. he didn't cross the border 3 days ago looking for work, leeching off the system when and where he can, sending his kids to school that tax dollars of others pay for etc.


there is a difference between LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration. the people he is talking about are not legal immigrants. the ONLY people that continually fail to make the distinction between the two is mexicans.

fuck you people. you're not entitled to anything when you cross the border illegally. i mean seriously... if i came to mexico illegally, refused to learn to speak spanish, started demanding rights, free health care, medicine etc etc etc etc... IN SPITE OF BEING THERE ILLEGALLY, you would laugh your fucking ass off and rightfully tell me to get the fuck out of your country.

Yes, enforce our laws!!

How do you know? How does he know? Latinos are hard working people, if they lose their job they will stand on the corner thenext day to try and get another job.

You have no idea if they are legal or illegal, you are assuming, and that shows. And just FYI, i am white as fuck, so I am not a Latino trying to stand up for "my peeps". I just say it how I see it.

Fool - difference is a couple of generations ago they came into this country legally thru Ellis Island and such.

I have no problem with people wanting to come here to better their lives. Just do it legally and learn to speak OUR fucking language. My grandparents came here from Hungary and Germany, and didn't expect everyone to learn to speak german.

I am so sick of my tax dollars being used to teach mexican children to speak english, instead of teaching US kids what they need to know to grow themselves.

As a outsider looking in. the media portrays "the illegals" as crack selling leeches that abuse anything they can get

I like to play devils advocate in any argument because there are usually good points on both sides. But on this one I am going to have to side with Ray on. Lets look at some rational thinking here.

Are most Americans immigrants?
Yes. I know my ancestors were, I am Irish and we were not very well liked back in the day either. But, once all the wars were fought and our Government set up, thats it. These idiots arguing, Well you were an immigrant too, holds no water. How can I or any other nationality who became a legalized citizen within the US by means of our forefathers claim any responsibilty for how our government was set up. It's ridiculous and the scapegoat of the less intelligent.

Did the Mexicans own land in the US?
Yes, they did at one time but not anymore. Also an argument that holds no water. I wont get into arguments about who was here first because whats the point. Nobody can change the past, whats done is done. You might as well be beating a dead horse. We wont be giving that land back, ever. I didn't do it, none of the people in my family did it, right or wrong its just how it came to be.

As far as the Native Americans go, I truly feel for these people. If any race in the US ever got the fucking of a life time it was them. Not even the Africans and African Americans can lay claim to these people's plight. What happened there was nothing short of attempted genocide and is an embarrassing foot note in our history. I use the term foot note because not many people ever talk about it. It is sad but also another argument that holds no water. I havent got a time machine, do you?

Do people have a right to come to our country?
Of course they do, as long as their government allows them to or they are able to get Green Cards or Visas. The big thing these people crying in favor of these illegal immigrants is that there IS A PROPER WAY TO DO THINGS. If they want to be in this country then follow the laws and procedures to become a citizen instead of hiding from INS and sucking up our resources. You wouldn't bring a stranger into your home and allow him to indefinitely invade your way of life or eat all your food or use your stuff as their own, or try to change the language you speak would you? I have no problem whatsoever with Immigrants who want to become a citizen of the US, just do it the right way. If you cant or aren't willing to, well, you just need to go back to your own country.

The last thing that really burns my ass, is almost every store I go into now all I hear is Spanish announcements and very few English. This is fucking bullshit. I dont mind them but when they dominate English there is a big problem and it leads right back to the illegal immigrant situation. If I ever moved to another country I sure as fuck wouldn't expect them to cater to my language needs, I am going to learn the language to fit into their country not try to fucking change it. It is ludicrious! I think it shows a lack of respect to the country your trying to make a home out of.

Does that mean I think other nationalities should speak only english? Of course not, but at least fucking learn it so when I go into my neighborhood store, I, the one who fucking lives here, knows what is being said or offered let alone trying to make a purchase with someone who cant friggin understand me. And please spare me the arguments of, "Then learn Spanish" because it only shows your lack of intelligence. I dont need to, I am an American US Citizen, we speak ENGLISH.

People seem to forget all the taxes and social security they pay in and never benefit from or if they get hurt on the job its fuck you no workers comp.
http://www.reason.org/commentaries/d...20060501.shtml

They keep hiring illegals ( lets call them by the right name, not immigrants) because they don't have to pay them a living wage and don't have to pay for insurance. It has nothing to do with americans being lazy you stupid fuck.

I wouldn't expect you to understand anything about economics being from mexico.

We bought a really nice Washer and Dryer from LOWES.

Top notch place right. We paid extra $$$ to get the shit delivered and installed.

Who showed up?

A raggedy truck with two Mexicans in it that speaka no engwish. They did a piss shit job and why not. They were probably paid $2.50/hr but I expected some fucking professionals from LOWES ... what a shit hole. The other shit we bought from them fell apart 2 days after the warranty ran out ( made in China ) ...

So ... who's fault was it. The place that hired these guys are the people that needed a job ? A Government that turns their head the other direction on immigration laws or the poor fucker trying to feed his family?

its all fucked ...

I say make those fences electric..bastards try to cross..zap the mother fuckers..don't fuck around

Lets cut the bullshit, Mexicans are wanted here, you know why? Because if they weren't wanted here no one would be willing to hire them, and with no one willing to hire them, they would have no choice but to leave...

Everyone is bitching and whinning, but at end of the day, it's all about the $$$... cut off the $$$ (stop hiring them), and they will be gone in no time...

My great grand father jumped ship to live in america illegally.He was cook on a ship that came to america. My wifes great grand parents are german too,they were married in america.Their marriage license is in german. Also people didnt run to learn english thats why they lived in neighborhoods and it was all their own.Its the same old song.
I have a few friends who are doing it legally and it is such an expensive circle fuck you have no idea.

I can remember back in the 70's and 80's the guys building the houses in the neighborhood were are your white males for the most part. They used to be decent paying jobs for kids with a high school education.

I dare you to try and find one white guy on a construction site that is white except the owner or the foreman.

I have a friend that is going thru citizenship and has been for over 6 years. He is from england and a self made man. Needs no help from anyone, just wants to be an american. Why should some fucking mexican that crossed the border with his 15 family members and kids who don't speak any english get a free ride. fuck that. Get in line and do it the right way.

Your right,its very sad and thats why the middle class is disappearing.

Its not the mexican's fault, he is looking for better. Its the american companies that encourage them to come here so they can pay them shit wages to do shit jobs.Also poor mexicans couldnt afford to go thru the process legally.

I think we could stop it easily.

First arrest a couple of high profile ceo's of companies hiring illegals and prosecute them and throw their asses in jail.

Second have a couple of snipers nail about a dozen crossing the ol rio grande and let them lay there and rot.

I think the message would get across very fast.


ps I am a big time liberal too.

Oh I see why you talk only shit, from your profile:
Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠
LOL

So what? 10 years ago any idiot could make millions peddling porn online, now it's not as easy anymore... times change, winners adapt, losers bitch and whine...

I agree that it's not the mexicans fault, but I don't give a fuck if they can't afford to go thru the process. I don't think it should be cheap or easy to get into the greatest country on the planet.

Maybe if they would get off their asses and make their own fucking country better than the pile of shit that it is, they wouldn't need to come here. Talk about lazy fucks, clean up your own yard before you dump your garbage in mine.

Exactly it really

disappearing ?
they're gone !!!!:thumbsup

I think they would love for this place to be Mexico. A very very wide gap between the rich and poor. The wider the better. The middle just gets in the way

It's called sarcasim Paco

I agree to a point. The laws are now made to favor large corps to only get bigger. They run everything now and just need slave labour. Look at how many family farms there are now. Family farms used to hire good workers and kept them for years. Now corporate farms just care about the bottom line and not quality. Look at all the fucking recalls of food products.

Not everyone has the god given gifts to adapt, that sounds nice. But some poor guy in his 50's and his factory job is outsourced he is in a world of shit. Also not everyone has the brains to go to college.They work with their hands, their honest and work hard.Adapt doesnt work for alot of those people.

Blow those terrorists away before they cause damage is the only answer

sarcasim? I don't know that word Charley, Did you mean sarcasm ?