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Blaze · 09-16-2002, 05:28 AM

I have been pushing CFF this last week. And while initial signups to the site have been good. Conversions and rebills have been extremely bad.
For example. I got over 40 3 day trial memberships, and out of those 40 only 6 of them rebillied to monthly members. Is anyone else doing better? Or it that avaerage for the site.

Needless to say I am quite disapointed.

nocostporn · 09-16-2002, 05:34 AM

800 signups a day,975 rebills...yes it's true,did that with only 57 uniques

Madball · 09-16-2002, 05:35 AM

Did you check those guys' members area before you promoted?

You will then understand why people pay for 3 days, go in download all the movies & cancel. Not all surfers are complete morons....

Theo · 09-16-2002, 05:42 AM

ill tell you the following funny, kind of not related with the topic.

I was reading a mainstream board and there was a topic about free porn. A guy asked where he can find free long movies because all movieposts he knew had up to 1mb clips. So someone replied giving him the url of bangbus.com He said they have 100s long movies and pictures for free. If you see the bangbus tour is like a huge free members area.

About,CFF, I had the impression that they didnt have trials...

Blaze · 09-16-2002, 05:47 AM

They dont offer trials initally, but if you exit the site you get a popup that offers a trial.

It just seems to me that if the trials convert so badly that regular memeber retention couldnt be much better.

DamnFineOnline · 09-16-2002, 06:07 AM

I'm converting about 1:250, 90% of which are trials.

And you're right about the rebilling, I've only had a tiny fraction of the trials convert into actual sales.

Frank W · 09-16-2002, 07:09 AM

Sent them 1000 clicks from a COLLEGE mailing list [ie., college student double opt in list looking for amateur college porn]. Zero Conversions. Sadly, we convert ARS better than CFF. Will swap out links after 2000 clicks.

Quote:

Originally posted by Blaze
I have been pushing CFF this last week. And while initial signups to the site have been good. Conversions and rebills have been extremely bad.
For example. I got over 40 3 day trial memberships, and out of those 40 only 6 of them rebillied to monthly members. Is anyone else doing better? Or it that avaerage for the site.

Needless to say I am quite disapointed.

TeraBabes · 09-16-2002, 08:02 AM

350:1 (trial, of course).

At a whopping $2.50 payout per trial, that's less than 1 cent per click...

But that's just me. Remember, there are allegedly guys getting 100s of sales off of single Hun galleries...

TarPy · 09-16-2002, 08:07 AM

LOL, just tell them all to stop spamming... fucking ghey program. I actually really like their tour, but would never promote them because they are huge assfucks.

TarPy

BabeHunter · 09-16-2002, 08:18 AM

i sent 3070 clicks...got 4 signups (full signups)...1 : 767...also got 4 declines...which is sucks

i have no idea how ppl got 200 slaes from a hun listing

Fletch XXX · 09-16-2002, 08:29 AM

That site shouldnt have trials.

Waste all the money shooting exclusive content, got a great idea, and then give it away for 5 bucks for 5 days?

Fuck trials, make them pay to see the content.

Bottom line.

payrollpete · 09-16-2002, 08:45 AM

oh wow

5 bucks for 5 days?

thats a terrible billing structure

they should do $1.99 - $2.95 for 2 days

J.R. · 09-16-2002, 08:55 AM

With any new program, it will take time to gain retention
and conversions. I know this first hand, now, we kick ass
on rentention, 6-9 months on many.

playa · 09-16-2002, 09:05 AM

on any partnerships you have to be dedicated for at least 3 months,, then after you'd make twice as much as any per signup sponser

Honeyslut · 09-16-2002, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
That site shouldnt have trials.

Waste all the money shooting exclusive content, got a great idea, and then give it away for 5 bucks for 5 days?

Fuck trials, make them pay to see the content.

Bottom line.

I agree !

Carrie · 09-16-2002, 09:30 AM

The site looks like it would be a blast to go in and watch the vids. I've been tempted myself (and nothing tempts me).
But I'd need to go in and see what there is to do after you've watched the videos and laughed your ass off.

Blaze · 09-16-2002, 10:01 AM

CFF is preforms really strangely.

First off it draws a BUTT LOAD of clicks, I mean i have never seen such high click through.

But the conversion ratio is absolute shit 1-1500 right now for me. But the high clicks kinda make up for that.

So you get a pretty decent number of signups, mostly trials. And then they never rebill, and you made a grand total of $2.50.

I might also add that the decline rate on thier proccesor is pretty high about 30% declines for me.

And also do not go beliving you will get 200 sales off a hun link. That is a striaght up lie. I know for a fact.

hottshot · 09-16-2002, 10:26 AM

Someone paid for a #1 listing today on the hun ! Maybe they can let us know how the conversions went.

Asthma · 09-16-2002, 10:59 AM

blaze contact me i like to see why your conversion is so high.
ICQ 76002502

Kevin C

Dice TGP · 09-16-2002, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blaze

And also do not go beliving you will get 200 sales off a hun link. That is a striaght up lie. I know for a fact.

Miss Cleo?

playa · 09-16-2002, 11:26 AM

just hang in there the rebills will come in

RedShoe · 09-16-2002, 11:50 AM

We're working on rebills right now. The site is only a month old. We adjusted the price the first week it was open and the sales increased.

So far we've had great signups. We have a few more ideas on retention, and rebills that we are going to put into action soon. (very soon)

For those of you who have been doing well, keep it up. For those of you that have have ratios, hit us up, send us emails, ICQ's, call us... we have always had an open door policy. We'll help you in any way that we can.

Send us some URLs. Let's see why your ratios are high. CFF on average is doing 1:210 right now.

If your average is 1:1500 something is wrong. Let us help you.

Granted we understand that every once in a while (and I know this from my own personal experience) ratios are just high with a program. However, it all comes down to SALESMANSHIP. That took me a while to understand, but if I can learn... anyone can.

RedShoe
ICQ # 114683191

nocostporn · 09-16-2002, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedShoe

CFF on average is doing 1:210 right now.

Asthma-says 1:80...does that ratio only come in effect with 200 signups from a hun gallery?

Pornwolf · 09-16-2002, 12:10 PM

Sounds like you guys might benefit from 30 minute trials.

B40 · 09-16-2002, 12:20 PM

KDizzla · 09-16-2002, 12:48 PM

I made a good $100,000 just from one gallery on the hun. ;)

KD

angelsofporn · 09-16-2002, 12:54 PM

1:311 here

Mr Cheeks · 09-16-2002, 01:21 PM

kindda off topic, but how is everyone doing on the other highly hyped up site chicktrick.com?

Paolo · 09-16-2002, 01:27 PM

Blaze.

Can you give me your id name.

I would like to see those numbers.

Sinse you gave out your numbers!

Can you also tell everyone how many full price memberships you got this week so everyone can see how much money you really made.

Always available to everyone.
Icq 163690508

Paolo

Brown Bear · 09-16-2002, 01:33 PM

Who owns collegefuckfest.com?

Morgan · 09-16-2002, 01:35 PM

chicktrick is a complete ripoff of bangbus only much more low budget.

Shoplifter · 09-16-2002, 01:45 PM

The $5 sign ups on CFF are a bitch. I only see about 15% rebills.

All they need to do is get some more relevant content, and heat up their videos a bit so that they actually seem more like out of control frat parties.

Pretty hard to do though when you are dealing with hundreds of people...Compare it to Bangbus where there is one girl and one guy in a controlled environment. It is much harder for CFF. They certainly have my respect for the idea.

They'll get it straight.

Sin_Vraal · 09-16-2002, 01:46 PM

I host several sites promoting Collegefuckfest.com (Along with Collegefuckfest.com), and they are doing extremely well.

I guess some people might not do as well as others tho... Anyone have suggestions to help make the rebills stick?

No trials?
I could set it up so that a given user could only download a movie or 2 / day?

Henry

eRock · 09-16-2002, 01:54 PM

I sent them (CFF) an email suggesting that since they add a new party every week, instead of giving the 6 clips equaling an hour long or whatever all at one time, that they should just post one 10 min. clip everyday. That way surefers will be back everyday, every week, month, etc, etc. And that could be a great marketing tool as well.

"A Brand Ne 10 Minute Movie Added Everyday!"

See where I'm goin' w/ this....

traffictrader · 09-16-2002, 01:58 PM

The site is doing really well on duckyporn. com I think the rebill issues is just because its new. I'm sure it will be a good long term money maker.

Brown Bear · 09-16-2002, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock
I sent them (CFF) an email suggesting that since they add a new party every week, instead of giving the 6 clips equaling an hour long or whatever all at one time, that they should just post one 10 min. clip everyday. That way surefers will be back everyday, every week, month, etc, etc. And that could be a great marketing tool as well.

"A Brand Ne 10 Minute Movie Added Everyday!"

See where I'm goin' w/ this....

Thats a good idea!

eRock · 09-16-2002, 02:09 PM

Another thing I was thinking about is to give the webmaster the option if he wants to give the surfer an opportunity for a trial or not. Personally, unless it's pay per-sign up, I'm strongly against trials of any kind. If you wanna see the goodies....bust out the plastic! I'm not too keen on trials all together, but that'll never change.

nocostporn · 09-16-2002, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by traffictrader
The site is doing really well on duckyporn. com I think the rebill issues is just because its new. I'm sure it will be a good long term money maker.

does it really matter how long its been public? This should have been beta tested and worked out... I don't really give a damn about making $12 a signup at a 1:200 ratio and *maybe* getting them to recur for the second month.. the kinks should have been worked out before even thinking about buying an ad here

and if it was beta tested for a few months before release,there shouldnt be any problems

Paolo · 09-16-2002, 02:12 PM

eRock

Good idea.
I will bring that up:thumbsup

Evil Chris · 09-16-2002, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blaze
They dont offer trials initally, but if you exit the site you get a popup that offers a trial.

That's not exactly right. That trial doesn't get offered until they leave the actual page where you fill in your credit card information. So ... one page past the join page.

While the majority of CFF webmasters are enjoying great conversion ratios and signup$... remember that we're constantly working to improve everyone's traffic performance, and as Redshoe said:

Quote:

We're working on rebills right now. The site is only a month old. We adjusted the price the first week it was open and the sales increased.
So far we've had great signups. We have a few more ideas on retention, and rebills that we are going to put into action soon. (very soon)

So apart from the exclusive party content that we're shooting ourselves, the site is loaded with extras to keep them retaining.
If you want to see the inside for yourself, hit me up on ICQ for a password. My ICQ is in my profile.

Chris

eRock · 09-16-2002, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris

If you want to see the inside for yourself, hit me up on ICQ for a password. My ICQ is in my profile.

Chris

LOL...oh man! You realize what you just did!?

boneprone · 09-16-2002, 02:16 PM

hmmmmmmmm.
My ratios are actually pretty good!

Blaze · 09-16-2002, 02:19 PM

Dont get me wrong, I am not really upset about the converstions over all. Some days are better then other.

Its the very low number of trials that convert.
Like someone else said its about 15%. That means that 85% of people that signup for a trial are canceling. That must mean something is wrong.

Whats the average conversion from trials on the whole site. Maybe one of the sites admins can tell us.

Bottom line is that if the trials would convert it would be a kick ass program.

About 60% of my total signups are trials also.

nocostporn · 09-16-2002, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
hmmmmmmmm

checking the IP of some of these people?

Blaze · 09-16-2002, 02:25 PM

Evil chris, Actually I didnt see your ICQ number in your profile.

Could you hit me up on ICQ, or anyone else that runs CFF. I would like to talk to you guys.
ICQ number: 169312483

Evil Chris · 09-16-2002, 02:28 PM

Blaze... I'll hit you up right now...

Brad Mitchell · 09-16-2002, 03:57 PM

You should let webmasters pick the join page - let them decide on 5 day trial, 15 day trial or full price only.

I think the videos look great, isn't everyone else enjoying them?

Pipecrew · 09-16-2002, 05:55 PM

what do you expect, they only have like 4 or 5 girls on the site, the shit is attempting to be too reality while totally missing out on the concept of still having to be porn, people realize this and are happy they only invested in the trial

Script Dude · 09-16-2002, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
The site looks like it would be a blast to go in and watch the vids. I've been tempted myself (and nothing tempts me).

Agreed. This site came closer to getting my card than anything else has in a long time.

eRock · 09-16-2002, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Script Dude

Agreed. This site came closer to getting my card than anything else has in a long time.

It's a GREAT site! AND a great concept! If I were a surfer I'd sign up in a heartbeat....honestly.

09-16-2002, 05:34 AM	#2
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	800 signups a day,975 rebills...yes it's true,did that with only 57 uniques __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

09-16-2002, 08:02 AM	#8
TeraBabes Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Under Water Posts: 2,067	350:1 (trial, of course). At a whopping $2.50 payout per trial, that's less than 1 cent per click... But that's just me. Remember, there are allegedly guys getting 100s of sales off of single Hun galleries... __________________ This place is too big.

09-16-2002, 08:07 AM	#9
TarPy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 758	LOL, just tell them all to stop spamming... fucking ghey program. I actually really like their tour, but would never promote them because they are huge assfucks. TarPy __________________ Not Working

09-16-2002, 08:29 AM	#11
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	That site shouldnt have trials. Waste all the money shooting exclusive content, got a great idea, and then give it away for 5 bucks for 5 days? Fuck trials, make them pay to see the content. Bottom line. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-16-2002, 08:45 AM	#12
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09-16-2002, 05:28 AM	#1
Blaze Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 298	College Fuck Fest Conversions - How are you doing? I have been pushing CFF this last week. And while initial signups to the site have been good. Conversions and rebills have been extremely bad. For example. I got over 40 3 day trial memberships, and out of those 40 only 6 of them rebillied to monthly members. Is anyone else doing better? Or it that avaerage for the site. Needless to say I am quite disapointed.

09-16-2002, 05:35 AM	#3
Madball Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 748	Did you check those guys' members area before you promoted? You will then understand why people pay for 3 days, go in download all the movies & cancel. Not all surfers are complete morons....

09-16-2002, 05:42 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	ill tell you the following funny, kind of not related with the topic. I was reading a mainstream board and there was a topic about free porn. A guy asked where he can find free long movies because all movieposts he knew had up to 1mb clips. So someone replied giving him the url of bangbus.com He said they have 100s long movies and pictures for free. If you see the bangbus tour is like a huge free members area. About,CFF, I had the impression that they didnt have trials...

09-16-2002, 05:47 AM	#5
Blaze Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 298	They dont offer trials initally, but if you exit the site you get a popup that offers a trial. It just seems to me that if the trials convert so badly that regular memeber retention couldnt be much better.

09-16-2002, 06:07 AM	#6
DamnFineOnline Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: palm beach, fl. Posts: 348	I'm converting about 1:250, 90% of which are trials. And you're right about the rebilling, I've only had a tiny fraction of the trials convert into actual sales.

09-16-2002, 08:18 AM	#10
BabeHunter Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: 2nd door on the left Posts: 4,063	i sent 3070 clicks...got 4 signups (full signups)...1 : 767...also got 4 declines...which is sucks i have no idea how ppl got 200 slaes from a hun listing

09-16-2002, 08:55 AM	#13
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	With any new program, it will take time to gain retention and conversions. I know this first hand, now, we kick ass on rentention, 6-9 months on many.

09-16-2002, 09:05 AM	#14
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	on any partnerships you have to be dedicated for at least 3 months,, then after you'd make twice as much as any per signup sponser

09-16-2002, 09:30 AM	#16
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	The site looks like it would be a blast to go in and watch the vids. I've been tempted myself (and nothing tempts me). But I'd need to go in and see what there is to do after you've watched the videos and laughed your ass off.

09-16-2002, 10:01 AM	#17
Blaze Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 298	CFF is preforms really strangely. First off it draws a BUTT LOAD of clicks, I mean i have never seen such high click through. But the conversion ratio is absolute shit 1-1500 right now for me. But the high clicks kinda make up for that. So you get a pretty decent number of signups, mostly trials. And then they never rebill, and you made a grand total of $2.50. I might also add that the decline rate on thier proccesor is pretty high about 30% declines for me. And also do not go beliving you will get 200 sales off a hun link. That is a striaght up lie. I know for a fact.

09-16-2002, 10:26 AM	#18
hottshot Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 900	Someone paid for a #1 listing today on the hun ! Maybe they can let us know how the conversions went. __________________ Love Dollars helps pay my bar tab Promote the highest converting sites in the industry with PussyCash

09-16-2002, 10:59 AM	#19
Asthma Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 682	blaze contact me i like to see why your conversion is so high. ICQ 76002502 Kevin C __________________ AdultMovieClub.com 4000+ Galleries \| RSS Feeds \| White Label \| Search Boxes \| Weekly Payouts You can have your own white labeled DVD download site with matching gallery templates and banners in just a few hours.

09-16-2002, 11:26 AM	#21
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	just hang in there the rebills will come in

09-16-2002, 11:50 AM	#22
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	We're working on rebills right now. The site is only a month old. We adjusted the price the first week it was open and the sales increased. So far we've had great signups. We have a few more ideas on retention, and rebills that we are going to put into action soon. (very soon) For those of you who have been doing well, keep it up. For those of you that have have ratios, hit us up, send us emails, ICQ's, call us... we have always had an open door policy. We'll help you in any way that we can. Send us some URLs. Let's see why your ratios are high. CFF on average is doing 1:210 right now. If your average is 1:1500 something is wrong. Let us help you. Granted we understand that every once in a while (and I know this from my own personal experience) ratios are just high with a program. However, it all comes down to SALESMANSHIP. That took me a while to understand, but if I can learn... anyone can. RedShoe ICQ # 114683191 __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

09-16-2002, 12:10 PM	#24
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Sounds like you guys might benefit from 30 minute trials. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-16-2002, 12:20 PM	#25
B40 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,020	1:8

09-16-2002, 12:48 PM	#26
KDizzla Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Hampton Posts: 1,795	I made a good $100,000 just from one gallery on the hun. ;) KD

09-16-2002, 12:54 PM	#27
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	1:311 here

09-16-2002, 01:21 PM	#28
Mr Cheeks Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 901	kindda off topic, but how is everyone doing on the other highly hyped up site chicktrick.com?

09-16-2002, 01:27 PM	#29
Paolo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 491	Blaze. Can you give me your id name. I would like to see those numbers. Sinse you gave out your numbers! Can you also tell everyone how many full price memberships you got this week so everyone can see how much money you really made. Always available to everyone. Icq 163690508 Paolo __________________ [

09-16-2002, 01:33 PM	#30
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Who owns collegefuckfest.com? __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

09-16-2002, 01:35 PM	#31
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	chicktrick is a complete ripoff of bangbus only much more low budget.

09-16-2002, 01:45 PM	#32
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	The $5 sign ups on CFF are a bitch. I only see about 15% rebills. All they need to do is get some more relevant content, and heat up their videos a bit so that they actually seem more like out of control frat parties. Pretty hard to do though when you are dealing with hundreds of people...Compare it to Bangbus where there is one girl and one guy in a controlled environment. It is much harder for CFF. They certainly have my respect for the idea. They'll get it straight.

09-16-2002, 01:46 PM	#33
Sin_Vraal Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 465	I host several sites promoting Collegefuckfest.com (Along with Collegefuckfest.com), and they are doing extremely well. I guess some people might not do as well as others tho... Anyone have suggestions to help make the rebills stick? No trials? I could set it up so that a given user could only download a movie or 2 / day? Henry __________________ "Youjizz: Henry, Thanks to you 1 in 150 people online at any given time are jerking off on my websites" Swift Communications -- UU net / Sprint / level 3 / savvis / Gblx Quad Core SaS HDD 1000mbits dedicated bandwidth $2500 AmySpears! Amy getting fucked in the ass and getting choked on a chain! -- Devil Bucks! skype: henry.goss ICQ: 5.6.4.8.0.9.8.6

09-16-2002, 01:54 PM	#34
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	I sent them (CFF) an email suggesting that since they add a new party every week, instead of giving the 6 clips equaling an hour long or whatever all at one time, that they should just post one 10 min. clip everyday. That way surefers will be back everyday, every week, month, etc, etc. And that could be a great marketing tool as well. "A Brand Ne 10 Minute Movie Added Everyday!" See where I'm goin' w/ this....

09-16-2002, 01:58 PM	#35
traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	The site is doing really well on duckyporn. com I think the rebill issues is just because its new. I'm sure it will be a good long term money maker. __________________

09-16-2002, 02:09 PM	#37
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	Another thing I was thinking about is to give the webmaster the option if he wants to give the surfer an opportunity for a trial or not. Personally, unless it's pay per-sign up, I'm strongly against trials of any kind. If you wanna see the goodies....bust out the plastic! I'm not too keen on trials all together, but that'll never change.

09-16-2002, 02:12 PM	#39
Paolo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Henderson, Nevada Posts: 491	eRock Good idea. I will bring that up:thumbsup

09-16-2002, 02:16 PM	#42
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	hmmmmmmmm. My ratios are actually pretty good! __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 09-16-2002 at 02:22 PM..

09-16-2002, 02:19 PM	#43
Blaze Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 298	Dont get me wrong, I am not really upset about the converstions over all. Some days are better then other. Its the very low number of trials that convert. Like someone else said its about 15%. That means that 85% of people that signup for a trial are canceling. That must mean something is wrong. Whats the average conversion from trials on the whole site. Maybe one of the sites admins can tell us. Bottom line is that if the trials would convert it would be a kick ass program. About 60% of my total signups are trials also.