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Sounds like you missed all the zango drama earlier this week where it was discovered that a Quickbuck owned signup form was popping up over ccbill and epoch join forms on zango infected pcs. Even though it appears that Quickbuck directly was targeting those urls via Zango, they were quick to shuffle off the blame on a rogue affiliate. Zango isn't going to reveal whom was targeting those urls, but Quickbuck knows.I realize that, I was curious if they were alerted to whom or which company. Typically the word "an" referes to one person or company.
Where did skimming come into play? Damn now your confusing me. I understand people bid on words, domains, whatever. I am just curious about the "AN" and if anyone knows who than would of been. I also mentioned it would of cost a pretty large chunk of cash.
Reread your previous reply to me where you insinuated I had just skimmed the original thread, when in fact I understood it and was trying to help you understand what Rand's original post meant when he referred to "advertiser"."WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
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Great news Rand!
At this point, I guess we should be cautiously optimistic. I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt until they totaly screw me over, so this is a chance for Zango to prove their good intentions...or not...
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Rouge Affiliate is the online verison of "two black youths in hoodies with a gun". The generic blame all excuse for all that can't be explained any other way.Sounds like you missed all the zango drama earlier this week where it was discovered that a Quickbuck owned signup form was popping up over ccbill and epoch join forms on zango infected pcs. Even though it appears that Quickbuck directly was targeting those urls via Zango, they were quick to shuffle off the blame on a rogue affiliate. Zango isn't going to reveal whom was targeting those urls, but Quickbuck knows.
Reread your previous reply to me where you insinuated I had just skimmed the original thread, when in fact I understood it and was trying to help you understand what Rand's original post meant when he referred to "advertiser".Comment
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I caught the drama, I caught that it was a quickbuck owned join page and all that, hell I caught that it was a hidden program. I also saw where they said they termed that affiliate. Sure plenty could point to quickbucks doing it, yet it was not solid proof and they were not about to turn over the advertisers identity. So alas I was asking if Rand got any info on whom that advertiser was.Sounds like you missed all the zango drama earlier this week where it was discovered that a Quickbuck owned signup form was popping up over ccbill and epoch join forms on zango infected pcs. Even though it appears that Quickbuck directly was targeting those urls via Zango, they were quick to shuffle off the blame on a rogue affiliate. Zango isn't going to reveal whom was targeting those urls, but Quickbuck knows.
Reread your previous reply to me where you insinuated I had just skimmed the original thread, when in fact I understood it and was trying to help you understand what Rand's original post meant when he referred to "advertiser".
The insinuation was not meant to be taken as such. Your reply to me just made next to no sense as to my question. I just figured you may have had done something I have done myself and that was skim over something and reply or quote wrong person.Comment
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I'm willing to go along with you on this if you get the attorney and he explains to us how we can/will win the case(s).wouldn't take much... 10 program owners at 10k each or 20 at 5k, any billing company could easily get such a coalition together. That should be enough to get any url hijacking method declared illegal. I don't see how it could stand up in court. Their only chance to fight it is to assert that surfers voluntarily sign up for this process and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gator case and some others have shown that this is a pretty weak defense.
IMHO Zango is just the tip of the iceberg, they have a program that end users voluntarily install, they have a company with a public site, so they're easy to go after.
There are a ton of guys out there infecting end users with spyware, and then using it to steal our traffic using these same methods, and we don't know who they are or how to go after them.
I'm all for asserting our legal rights and going after people who steal our traffic AND people who steal our content.....BUT I'm not willing to throw money away just to push against the ocean and "fight the good fight" if it's not going to make a dent in the amount of traffic that's stolen from us on a daily basis.sig too bigComment
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Something I don't think alot of people realize is that this spyware shit hurts affiliates the most.
In alot of cases the spyware programs aren't taking the traffic away from the program owners, they're simply replacing the referring affiliates code with their own. The program owners in many cases are getting the same number of overall signups, it's just that the wrong affiliate is getting credit for them.
This is one of the reasons margins for affiliates have been dropping so drastically as of late.sig too bigComment
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Lenny, every day I dream that microsoft finally makes Vista work properly without requiring a quad core processor, so that users can upgrade from there. Most of the sneak attack infections would be lost in that, because of the way the security is structured.
At this point, I am suspecting that about 50% of all traffic is lost to scumware.Comment
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Right, the legal option is not the solution here. If Zango really faced legal heat in the USA they would move offshore.
This is more of a technical issue...The whole porn site and join page methodology is insecure.Comment



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