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TheStout · 10-09-2007, 10:43 AM

I agree with DollarmanSteve...He is smart

hateman · 10-09-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Finally 1 guy got it right.

Brad Mitchell. Thanks for explaining to the idiot's how the industry can and will move to Video sites. I been at it for months now trying to drill into these dimwits heads that it is a matter of change.

Thumbs up to Mojo Host!
Piracy will slow down drastically as Piracy on a video site makes the business model faulty altogether. They need money to and piracy on the sites is nothing more than a bandwidth drain that makes hosting pirated content unafforable.

Why do you even care? You are a broke ass idiot who cant even sell a design.

Dont worry, sucking dicks for money will always be hip.

pocketkangaroo · 10-09-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Tubes are not comparable to TGPs or MGPs. One provides short samples, the other gets you entire members areas worth of content. I don't think there is any easy way to 'adapt'. But I also don't see tubes going away any time soon.

Which tube sites have entire members areas?

Brad Mitchell · 10-09-2007, 11:36 AM

Good thread, keep it going

Really appreciate your insight Steve, it's right on.

Brad

Snake Doctor · 10-09-2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

The demand for porn is highly elastic (ie price sensitive). At a price point of zero demand approaches infinity.

What I was saying was the the relative demand is weak. For example, people will pay $2.99 per minute to chat with some hot slut on a webcam and spend $200 chatting. But, trying to get $200 out of a consumer to show them DVD porn is difficult. So, the 'tube' sites or whatever you want to call them have recognized this.. using the free porn (which has infinite demand) to push traffic to high-value sites.

Ok I see your point, but when did theft become part of a viable business model?
IF these sites had to pay for licensing rights to use the content in this way, their profit would be gone. (because standard licenses don't allow content to be used in this way, so they would have to negotiate a broader, much more expensive license)
Also, MOST of the content that they're using isn't available for license, it's owned exclusively by the paysite. This is content they would never have on their site were they to obey the law (and if they did have it, it would be in much smaller amounts and not used to promote other products)

This would never be a viable business model if they weren't stealing content, and the fact that you're basically saying the theives are smarter than those of us that play by the rules is a little insulting.

Dollarmansteve · 10-09-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Ok I see your point, but when did theft become part of a viable business model?
IF these sites had to pay for licensing rights to use the content in this way, their profit would be gone. (because standard licenses don't allow content to be used in this way, so they would have to negotiate a broader, much more expensive license)
Also, MOST of the content that they're using isn't available for license, it's owned exclusively by the paysite. This is content they would never have on their site were they to obey the law (and if they did have it, it would be in much smaller amounts and not used to promote other products)

This would never be a viable business model if they weren't stealing content, and the fact that you're basically saying the theives are smarter than those of us that play by the rules is a little insulting.

Clearly the 'right answer' is somewhere in the middle. The only point I was trying to make is that there is a 'value scale' of content - non-exlcusive porn video is low on that value scale (and is in decline), and interactive, x-rated webcam chat is high onthe value scale. These existnce of tube sites are an extreme example of this disparity.

Forgetting these sites for a second, can we not agree that there is less willingness on the part of consumers to pay for normal, non-exclusive video? The market is commoditized and not because of the tube sites, I mean there are lots of sites out there where you can download thousands and thousands of DVDs with no DRM for less than $10 a month....

I don't personally believe the these types of sites are the disease, I believe they are a symptom, but that is just my

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	Good thread, keep it going Really appreciate your insight Steve, it's right on. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999