Only the French give up that easy.

Can someone explain to me why when I see a TGP "directory" site, listing every FHG from every sponsor in that niche, isn't "stealing" content as well? All im seeing if they are just importing every FHG movie on the site and making it searchable. Big deal really.

No FHG has 20 min movie clips

nicely said

Free Hosted Galleries are populated with marketing materials (content I have deemed appropriate to use to market) rather than complete sets.

If the pictures on an FHG have been removed from the members section to populate the FHG, that would be considered stolen content, but your example is not. The pictures in those are legit.

I think the demand for generic porn is as strong as it always has been. Only it's value has declined because it is available freely. The difference with cams and dating is that they can't be 'stolen'. You actually have to register on a dating site if you want to meet people and register on a cam site if you want to see live cams. That type of content can't simply be uploaded and made readily available for everybody.

Tubes are not comparable to TGPs or MGPs. One provides short samples, the other gets you entire members areas worth of content. I don't think there is any easy way to 'adapt'. But I also don't see tubes going away any time soon.

LOL...Does anyone have a link to a music thread in 2001 or a movie thread in 2003? I forget who posted it but I remember it well, "Hoiw many of you have paid for that Adobe Photoshop you are using on your computer right now?". Get used to it because it is not going to slow down.

IMO

The demand for porn is highly elastic (ie price sensitive). At a price point of zero demand approaches infinity.

What I was saying was the the relative demand is weak. For example, people will pay $2.99 per minute to chat with some hot slut on a webcam and spend $200 chatting. But, trying to get $200 out of a consumer to show them DVD porn is difficult. So, the 'tube' sites or whatever you want to call them have recognized this.. using the free porn (which has infinite demand) to push traffic to high-value sites.

I agree with DollarmanSteve...He is smart

Why do you even care? You are a broke ass idiot who cant even sell a design.


Dont worry, sucking dicks for money will always be hip.

Which tube sites have entire members areas?

Good thread, keep it going :) Really appreciate your insight Steve, it's right on.

Brad

Ok I see your point, but when did theft become part of a viable business model?
IF these sites had to pay for licensing rights to use the content in this way, their profit would be gone. (because standard licenses don't allow content to be used in this way, so they would have to negotiate a broader, much more expensive license)
Also, MOST of the content that they're using isn't available for license, it's owned exclusively by the paysite. This is content they would never have on their site were they to obey the law (and if they did have it, it would be in much smaller amounts and not used to promote other products)

This would never be a viable business model if they weren't stealing content, and the fact that you're basically saying the theives are smarter than those of us that play by the rules is a little insulting. :2 cents:

Clearly the 'right answer' is somewhere in the middle. The only point I was trying to make is that there is a 'value scale' of content - non-exlcusive porn video is low on that value scale (and is in decline), and interactive, x-rated webcam chat is high onthe value scale. These existnce of tube sites are an extreme example of this disparity.

Forgetting these sites for a second, can we not agree that there is less willingness on the part of consumers to pay for normal, non-exclusive video? The market is commoditized and not because of the tube sites, I mean there are lots of sites out there where you can download thousands and thousands of DVDs with no DRM for less than $10 a month....

I don't personally believe the these types of sites are the disease, I believe they are a symptom, but that is just my :2 cents: