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|  10-06-2007, 03:55 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  My experience with Cybersocket. So.......I'm hanging out at the Cybersocket party in Amsterdam.  I've never attended one of their parties or met any of them so I was looking to make some new acquaintances as well as chill with some old ones. My girl and I made our way up the steps to the bar were she had been patiently waiting as the line slowly advanced. Finally she makes her way to the bar and is still being patient as she waits for the bartender to take her order. All of a sudden this guy comes sliding in-between her and I. As he moves through, he hands me his business card and gives me a limp wristed half assed handshake. He then proceeds to slide his way in from of my girl and cuts her off from the bar. 1 minute later he steps on my foot as he stumbles away with 3 drinks in his hand and says: "I hope you're enjoying my party." At this point I'm pretty pissed off at this tool and I decided to look at the business card to see who he is. Douglas Richter Mr. Richter, I hope you had a fun night of being rude to the guests at your company's party. I'm sure they appreciate your wise use of their investment, asshole.  | 
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|  10-06-2007, 03:57 PM | #2 | 
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|  10-06-2007, 04:07 PM | #3 | 
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				 | Tim and Morgan are examples of people to emulate in this business. You might have mentioned it to them in private if it bothered you overly. Anyway, they are good peeps  | 
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|  10-06-2007, 04:22 PM | #4 | |
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 Here's a little tip: When at a private party, throw the bartender $100 when you get your first drink and tell him/her to take care of you. I guarentee you will not have to wait in a line again... | |
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|  10-06-2007, 04:23 PM | #5 | 
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				 | He was probably just drunk. Unfortunately I act like a dick when I drink too much too, and usually feel horrible about it in the morning.  | 
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|  10-06-2007, 04:25 PM | #6 | |
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|  10-06-2007, 04:29 PM | #7 | |
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 Who? Never heard of them so I could not be expected to privately do that. Not that I would have anyway. | |
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|  10-06-2007, 04:35 PM | #8 | 
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				 | Aaron, i usually refrain from pointing out the top notch/stand up people, because the practice has been abused to hell. However, i think in this case you just got off on the wrong foot (no pun intended). You also have to take into consideration how jam packed their party was that night, which could explain the sliding inbetween you and your girlfriend. :2cents 
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|  10-06-2007, 04:36 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Hello from Amsterdam airport | 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:00 PM | #10 | |
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 This from a man who has ignored EVERY email I have ever sent him. Thanks for your sudden interest in my opinions. | |
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|  10-06-2007, 05:17 PM | #11 | 
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				 | i *never* received any of your emails, sometimes i may reply late as i have a truckload of email to get through, but i sure as hell don't ignore the ones i actually receive. Hit me up on icq 665-086 or via AWW (link below) if there's anything you'd like to discuss. 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:22 PM | #12 | |
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 Well, I've been waiting for about 2 years now since the first email so maybe mine slipped under the truck seat. | |
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|  10-06-2007, 05:27 PM | #13 | 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:31 PM | #14 | 
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				 | Just dropped you a message through AWW. It's late here, i'm about to head out. 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:34 PM | #15 | 
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				 | LOL, talk about shattered egos. | 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:39 PM | #16 | |
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 for $100 i can bring someone who does nothing but getting me drinks, food and wipe my ass if i want to 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:43 PM | #17 | 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:45 PM | #18 | 
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				 | Does that include the ass wiping?  This is important. 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:48 PM | #19 | 
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				 | you agreed to $100 if we did a bulk deal for 10 events   plus i allowed you to look at the girls cleavages if i wasn't thirsty, hungry or needed to take a dump 
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|  10-06-2007, 05:55 PM | #20 | 
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				 | I will   I like poo ! | 
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|  10-06-2007, 06:07 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Well Im with you on this AaronM, Everyone has had bad days and made themself look stupid,but I think its best done in private and with friends if its in public or at a biz expo you have to suffer the embarassment after...and live with it! Company parties and events with important possible deal makers are I think a wrong time to act the village clown... If he did indeed embarrass you Aaron and your girl,he should be named ....the arrrrrrrrrrrr he was drunk is not a great business excuse in my eyes. 
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|  10-06-2007, 06:08 PM | #22 | 
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				 | You and your lady looked great Aaron... alright, who am I kidding... she looked great... and you were next to her...  
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|  10-06-2007, 11:13 PM | #23 | |
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|  10-07-2007, 12:45 AM | #24 | 
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				 | Sounds like you are easily offended... The dude stops long enough to give you a card, shake your hand, and ask if you are enjoying the party, then proceeds to grab three drinks (presumably at least two are for clients/potential clients, whom he is taking care of), and he inadvertantly steps on your foot (I doubt it was deliberate, and it's quite possible he didn't notice). Boo-fucking-hoo:  ADG | 
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|  10-07-2007, 12:51 AM | #25 | 
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				 | I think Aaron as some mighty tender loins... 
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|  10-07-2007, 12:54 AM | #26 | 
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				 | one of the best cuts of meat out there...      
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|  10-07-2007, 03:42 AM | #27 | 
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				 | I am sure it wasn't intended like it happened. It was simply nuts at that bar and I got pushed several times and a lot of people "cut in front of me". The cybersocket guys are top notch and great people. Talk to them, I am sure Douglas will apologize and tell you it wasn't intentional. | 
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|  10-07-2007, 04:45 AM | #28 | 
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				 | The bar was a bordel. In fact, I remember getting cut off, and probably cut someone off also. Was I the only person who read the start of the thread and thought "Oh shit, was it me who cut him off?" | 
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|  10-07-2007, 06:00 AM | #29 | |
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 If you expect anything different, dont go to parties where the drinks is free  
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|  10-07-2007, 07:34 AM | #30 | |
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|  10-07-2007, 08:10 AM | #31 | 
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				 | There are a lot of stupid responses in this thread. If you represent a sponsor who is throwing the party then you should show more respect to the guests of that party than to do what he did. If he had been some other person and NOT associated directly with the sponsor of the party then I would not have mentioned it at all. Common courtesy says you don't cut in front of people, chivalry says you don't cut in front of a lady, and from a business aspect you don't cut in front of guests at your own party. I was not offended. I was pissed off. Primarily at the way he treated my girl. If you don't get it then you're a bigger tool than Douglas is. | 
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|  10-07-2007, 06:43 PM | #32 | |
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 Now THAT is some excellent trolling material. Well played sir  
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|  10-07-2007, 10:00 PM | #34 | |
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 Love Tim and Morgan and they are the consumate professionals, and altogether damn fine blokes to boot ! I am quite sure they would be horrified, and would take appropriate action, if any of their people did the wrong thing.  
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|  10-07-2007, 11:35 PM | #35 | 
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			 I am sorry your first experience with us was negative.  Please assure me Douglas will be mortified when he learns of this.  I assure you we are normally pretty nice people and well mannered.  Sometimes we get a little loopy at these events.  However, your point is taken.   We will be doing another party in conjunction with Webmaster Access LA. I hope you and your girlfriend will attend. I look forward to meeting you in person at some future point.  
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|  10-08-2007, 12:26 AM | #36 | 
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|  10-08-2007, 12:58 PM | #37 | 
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				 |  misunderstanding morgan, tim, and douglas are some of the nicest and most professional people in the business. they always go out of their way to take care of and look out for their guests, whether they are clients or not. it was probably just a misunderstanding. it sounds like the event was very chaotic and crowded. we all know how hard it can be to get drinks under those circumstances. i'm just guessing, but if morgan used any clout to get to the front of the line to get drinks, he was probably actually getting drinks for guests he was talking to. i doubt that it was a selfish case of cutting. also - once anyone has had a few drinks, it can be easy to accidentally cut someone off without even realizing it. you should be sure to talk to morgan and the CS crew next time you see them - cuz you'll find out how nice they actually are. :-) | 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:04 PM | #38 | 
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				 | Seems like a small transgression. I have done worse. 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:07 PM | #39 | |
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 I love this post. Bow to the Power. Was he wearing wooden shoes as he steped on your foot? 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:12 PM | #40 | 
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				 | Cybersocket? Wait isnt that the Gay Niche Company?? Aaron?? Hmmm.. Were you wearing your latex body outfit? 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:12 PM | #41 | 
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				 | Aaron,  I would like to take a second to respond here. First, it wasn't MY party and that is something I would NEVER say. Second I am mortified if I stepped on a ladies foot (ESPECIALLY IF WEARING MANOLO'S or UGG's), ask any of the Fantastic Women whom I love and adore and work with every day in this industry and let them tell you how I treat the ladies. I do remember having to bring drinks across the room and was going back and forth to collect an order of several drinks carrying them 3 at a time, so it is entirely possible please forgive me I am not a waiter and in the dark maneuvering those stairs was a bit tough. So if I stepped on your lady friends Manolo I apologize. If you were offended you should have said hey dude watch your step. Also you could have emailed me to talk about what happened, in the future why don't you try that as I hardly come on these boards. But Honestly, I have to say I have no memory of this! BUT, it was a crowded venue and there were a lot of people! So I apologize if you were made to feel unappreciated. Douglas | 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:15 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Morgan, Tim, Douglas and the whole gang rock.  It sucks you attended their party and got a bad impression.  Whether you are gay, straight, or an alien the gay parties are a great place to party and you don't have to worry about guys picking up your girl hehe.  ;) Mark 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:15 PM | #43 | 
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				 | I dont know these cybersocket peeps, but I can relate to where Aaron is coming from here. Im sure these guys are top notch classy guys and all that shit.  But shows in general havent been doing it for me for this very reason. If its not this party or this person its another. The gatherings have lost that luster they once had in the day. Drunk sponsors and frat boy mentality at the gatherings, one can only take so much. Thats why I only go once a year now days to a show. I just cant handle it anymore. I know where Aaron is coming from and can relate. Noting we can do to fix it. Its just the nature of gatherings now days. I dont take it personal, I just choose not to go anymore. 
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|  10-08-2007, 01:17 PM | #44 | |
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|  10-08-2007, 01:19 PM | #45 | 
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				 |  Good point! ADG | 
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|  10-08-2007, 02:12 PM | #46 | 
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				 | Douglas is a really sweet guy.  I'm sure that he didn't mean to upset you.    | 
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|  10-08-2007, 04:40 PM | #48 | |
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 Thanks for caring enough to pay attention to what my complaints were before responding to them. <-----That's called sarcasm. You would have been better off had you left the responses up to Morgan and Tom. I'll be sure to follow this reply with an email telling you to fuck off so that you receive it. You know...Since you hardly come on the boards and all. | |
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|  10-08-2007, 04:44 PM | #49 | 
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				 | This is worse than Zoe's Snubbing of Eros! ZOMGZ! 
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|  10-08-2007, 04:55 PM | #50 | 
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				 | This kinda thing is pretty common. When people throw a party, they think they own the place and can do what they like. You really should of said something to him right there and then. Off topic: Aaron, have you put the pics you shot online anywhere? You took some ones of me on the boat i'd like to see. | 
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