The Epass/Paypal Alternative I have been hinting at for years has arrived.

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  • justsexxx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 13723

    #151
    q:

    In what region are you registred? I am asking this because right now we use CCBILL EU and paycomeEU. We can not use a CC processor in another region for the same site. You said you had a bank in US/UK and soon in Netherlands. But what is the region we can choose(or which region 'are' you)
    Questions?

    ICQ: 125184542

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    • JFK
      FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
      • Jan 2002
      • 67373

      #152
      Originally posted by Lenny2
      Actually it was called AC Pay. It didn't last very long

      They never told us what happened, but my best guess is that they weren't prepared for the level of fraud involved in processing for other people's sites (rather than just their own), and got into chargeback trouble and had to close up shop.
      I remember ACPay very well

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      • Nicky
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2003
        • 30071

        #153
        Bump for Chio

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        • Marshal
          Biz Dev and SEO
          • Jun 2005
          • 15219

          #154
          can you please hit me up on icq#: 53667259. looks like i made a mistake during account creation process...
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          • pornguy
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Mar 2003
            • 62912

            #155
            Originally posted by Lenny2
            I also have a question for Chio.

            I'm not here to stir up shit, you know I like you, but I'm sure you expected some close scrutiny and are prepared for it.

            The last AVS system that used their banking/processing relationships to become an IPSP was adult check, and they failed miserably and all of the paysite owners who chose to use them were left holding the bag.

            What have you learned from observing that experience and what have you done differently to ensure that you'll be around long term?
            Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
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            • gandalfuy
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2005
              • 4686

              #156
              congratulation!
              looks nice!
              I'm not back.

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              • Papillon
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2007
                • 254

                #157
                very nice chio and some good questions from peeps too

                all the best! I will use it for sure!
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                • Pleasurepays
                  BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 11913

                  #158
                  Originally posted by pornguy
                  Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
                  all that matters is whether or not you can trust and believe in the person you are doing business with and whether or not you have faith in his/her ability to get the job done, do what they say and run the business.

                  NO ONE has ever accused this guy of being incompetent or anything but a stand up guy. from my conversations with him on the phone, he seems to be very grounded and intelligent.

                  there are no "guarantees". what are your guarantees with Epass that your accounts won't be frozen for arbitrary reasons? what are your guarantees that you will get a card on time when one expires? what are your guarantees that the federal government won't jump all over their ass and freeze everything, including your money for years, being that they are the number one choice for facilitating illegal gambling transactions?

                  the only question you really need to ask is whether or not you think Chio is capable of pulling this off.

                  i have NEVER seen ANY evidence to suggest that he isn't... and its not like there are great alternatives that you can rely on.

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                  • Snake Doctor
                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                    • Mar 2001
                    • 13449

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                    all that matters is whether or not you can trust and believe in the person you are doing business with and whether or not you have faith in his/her ability to get the job done, do what they say and run the business.

                    NO ONE has ever accused this guy of being incompetent or anything but a stand up guy. from my conversations with him on the phone, he seems to be very grounded and intelligent.

                    there are no "guarantees". what are your guarantees with Epass that your accounts won't be frozen for arbitrary reasons? what are your guarantees that you will get a card on time when one expires? what are your guarantees that the federal government won't jump all over their ass and freeze everything, including your money for years, being that they are the number one choice for facilitating illegal gambling transactions?

                    the only question you really need to ask is whether or not you think Chio is capable of pulling this off.

                    i have NEVER seen ANY evidence to suggest that he isn't... and its not like there are great alternatives that you can rely on.
                    As much as I like Chio I have to disagree with you on this.
                    I'm sure everyone thought Chris Mallick was extremely competent when it came to running Epass, and while they're still around they've had, and continue to have, a large number of problems.

                    When you're talking about possibly processing 6 figures a month through an IPSP or trusting your affiliate payments to a company, you're going to need more assurances than "he's a stand up guy".
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                    • Pleasurepays
                      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 11913

                      #160
                      Originally posted by Lenny2
                      As much as I like Chio I have to disagree with you on this.
                      I'm sure everyone thought Chris Mallick was extremely competent when it came to running Epass, and while they're still around they've had, and continue to have, a large number of problems.

                      When you're talking about possibly processing 6 figures a month through an IPSP or trusting your affiliate payments to a company, you're going to need more assurances than "he's a stand up guy".
                      i dont dissagree with what you are saying.. but the fact remains is that "trust" is based on past performance. whether or not someone can be trusted depends entirely on how they conduct their business... in other words, if someone hasn't fucked up in the last 2 months, its reasonable to assume they won't fuck up in the coming 2 months.

                      NO ONE should be looking at things in terms of "what can you guarantee me"... thats just bad business and bad planning and extremely poor risk management.

                      of course its reasonable to ask questions if you are considering a 6 figure risk... however, what does it change? everyone that has ever started any service like this or IPSP has said all the right things, had the bro club weigh in constantly... then disappeared before anyone knew it was over. at the end of the day, you risk as much as you can afford to lose and see what happens... watch for warning signs and pay heed when you see people having issues, having support issues, having issues joining, having issues with phone support, having issues with cards/accounts being frozen etc and more as IS CONSTANTLY THE CASE WITH EPASSPORTE and have the sense to walk away rather than being like most people in this biz who ignore all these warning signs because the WANT to believe a bad risk is a good risk because it offers convienence to them.

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                      • candyflip
                        Carpe Visio
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 43069

                        #161
                        Do you have any plans to steal Michael O away from Epass to handle your customer service?

                        I'm sure it wouldn't take much to woo him away from that mess.

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                        • CyberHustler
                          Masterbaiter
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 28718

                          #162
                          Originally posted by candyflip
                          Do you have any plans to steal Michael O away from Epass to handle your customer service?

                          I'm sure it wouldn't take much to woo him away from that mess.
                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                          • KrisKross
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 5025

                            #163
                            Originally posted by pornguy
                            Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
                            Originally posted by Chio
                            Currently our accounts are with BOA and we are in the process of setting up the ability to do sub accounts (insured FDIC 100,000.00 per account)

                            Merchants will be required to send address verification, photo id, telephone numbers will be verified electronically bank and card verification. For ACH we require the above in addition to a signed Credit/debit authorization form.

                            By PCS do you mean PCI? If so, yes we have met all the requirements for PCI, and thus CISP and we are currently in the process of validating our status with a Visa approved QSA. We already have ACH authorization and our main focus right now is p2p payments (without card funding) until we can get the website completed the server migrated and the CISP designation.

                            Thanks for the questions, I would love to talk with you personally as you have always seemed very helpful and knowledgeable in respect to matters such as this. You can reach me via ICQ (in location)

                            I've got a lot of follow up posting to do before I head off for the evening. I'll check back in the AM.
                            The accounts are FDIC insured.

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                            • Diligent
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1594

                              #164
                              Woooot!!

                              This wasn't just talk I see... (not that I had thought so either) ;)

                              Chio, I may very well be SOOO signed up with Your solutions in a while!
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                              • Sysgenix
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 287

                                #165
                                Looks great, I think has potential if it can last.
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