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  • justsexxx
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Aug 2001
    • 13723
    #151
    q:

    In what region are you registred? I am asking this because right now we use CCBILL EU and paycomeEU. We can not use a CC processor in another region for the same site. You said you had a bank in US/UK and soon in Netherlands. But what is the region we can choose(or which region 'are' you)
    Questions?

    ICQ: 125184542

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      • JFK
        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
        • Jan 2002
        • 67373
        #152
        Originally posted by Lenny2
        Actually it was called AC Pay. It didn't last very long

        They never told us what happened, but my best guess is that they weren't prepared for the level of fraud involved in processing for other people's sites (rather than just their own), and got into chargeback trouble and had to close up shop.
        I remember ACPay very well

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          • Nicky
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Mar 2003
            • 30071
            #153
            Bump for Chio

            gfynicky @ gmail.com

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              • Marshal
                Biz Dev and SEO
                • Jun 2005
                • 15219
                #154
                can you please hit me up on icq#: 53667259. looks like i made a mistake during account creation process...
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                  • pornguy
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 62912
                    #155
                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                    I also have a question for Chio.

                    I'm not here to stir up shit, you know I like you, but I'm sure you expected some close scrutiny and are prepared for it.

                    The last AVS system that used their banking/processing relationships to become an IPSP was adult check, and they failed miserably and all of the paysite owners who chose to use them were left holding the bag.

                    What have you learned from observing that experience and what have you done differently to ensure that you'll be around long term?
                    Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
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                      • gandalfuy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 4686
                        #156
                        congratulation!
                        looks nice!
                        I'm not back.

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                          • Papillon
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 254
                            #157
                            very nice chio and some good questions from peeps too

                            all the best! I will use it for sure!
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                              • Pleasurepays
                                BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 11913
                                #158
                                Originally posted by pornguy
                                Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
                                all that matters is whether or not you can trust and believe in the person you are doing business with and whether or not you have faith in his/her ability to get the job done, do what they say and run the business.

                                NO ONE has ever accused this guy of being incompetent or anything but a stand up guy. from my conversations with him on the phone, he seems to be very grounded and intelligent.

                                there are no "guarantees". what are your guarantees with Epass that your accounts won't be frozen for arbitrary reasons? what are your guarantees that you will get a card on time when one expires? what are your guarantees that the federal government won't jump all over their ass and freeze everything, including your money for years, being that they are the number one choice for facilitating illegal gambling transactions?

                                the only question you really need to ask is whether or not you think Chio is capable of pulling this off.

                                i have NEVER seen ANY evidence to suggest that he isn't... and its not like there are great alternatives that you can rely on.

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                                  • Snake Doctor
                                    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 13449
                                    #159
                                    Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                    all that matters is whether or not you can trust and believe in the person you are doing business with and whether or not you have faith in his/her ability to get the job done, do what they say and run the business.

                                    NO ONE has ever accused this guy of being incompetent or anything but a stand up guy. from my conversations with him on the phone, he seems to be very grounded and intelligent.

                                    there are no "guarantees". what are your guarantees with Epass that your accounts won't be frozen for arbitrary reasons? what are your guarantees that you will get a card on time when one expires? what are your guarantees that the federal government won't jump all over their ass and freeze everything, including your money for years, being that they are the number one choice for facilitating illegal gambling transactions?

                                    the only question you really need to ask is whether or not you think Chio is capable of pulling this off.

                                    i have NEVER seen ANY evidence to suggest that he isn't... and its not like there are great alternatives that you can rely on.
                                    As much as I like Chio I have to disagree with you on this.
                                    I'm sure everyone thought Chris Mallick was extremely competent when it came to running Epass, and while they're still around they've had, and continue to have, a large number of problems.

                                    When you're talking about possibly processing 6 figures a month through an IPSP or trusting your affiliate payments to a company, you're going to need more assurances than "he's a stand up guy".
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                                      • Pleasurepays
                                        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 11913
                                        #160
                                        Originally posted by Lenny2
                                        As much as I like Chio I have to disagree with you on this.
                                        I'm sure everyone thought Chris Mallick was extremely competent when it came to running Epass, and while they're still around they've had, and continue to have, a large number of problems.

                                        When you're talking about possibly processing 6 figures a month through an IPSP or trusting your affiliate payments to a company, you're going to need more assurances than "he's a stand up guy".
                                        i dont dissagree with what you are saying.. but the fact remains is that "trust" is based on past performance. whether or not someone can be trusted depends entirely on how they conduct their business... in other words, if someone hasn't fucked up in the last 2 months, its reasonable to assume they won't fuck up in the coming 2 months.

                                        NO ONE should be looking at things in terms of "what can you guarantee me"... thats just bad business and bad planning and extremely poor risk management.

                                        of course its reasonable to ask questions if you are considering a 6 figure risk... however, what does it change? everyone that has ever started any service like this or IPSP has said all the right things, had the bro club weigh in constantly... then disappeared before anyone knew it was over. at the end of the day, you risk as much as you can afford to lose and see what happens... watch for warning signs and pay heed when you see people having issues, having support issues, having issues joining, having issues with phone support, having issues with cards/accounts being frozen etc and more as IS CONSTANTLY THE CASE WITH EPASSPORTE and have the sense to walk away rather than being like most people in this biz who ignore all these warning signs because the WANT to believe a bad risk is a good risk because it offers convienence to them.

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                                          • candyflip
                                            Carpe Visio
                                            • Jul 2002
                                            • 43069
                                            #161
                                            Do you have any plans to steal Michael O away from Epass to handle your customer service?

                                            I'm sure it wouldn't take much to woo him away from that mess.

                                            Spend you some brain.
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                                              • CyberHustler
                                                Masterbaiter
                                                • Feb 2006
                                                • 28724
                                                #162
                                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                                Do you have any plans to steal Michael O away from Epass to handle your customer service?

                                                I'm sure it wouldn't take much to woo him away from that mess.
                                                “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                  • KrisKross
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Jan 2006
                                                    • 5025
                                                    #163
                                                    Originally posted by pornguy
                                                    Great question, and add to that what are you doing to insure, that in the event of failure, what will you do to make sure people get their money.
                                                    Originally posted by Chio
                                                    Currently our accounts are with BOA and we are in the process of setting up the ability to do sub accounts (insured FDIC 100,000.00 per account)

                                                    Merchants will be required to send address verification, photo id, telephone numbers will be verified electronically bank and card verification. For ACH we require the above in addition to a signed Credit/debit authorization form.

                                                    By PCS do you mean PCI? If so, yes we have met all the requirements for PCI, and thus CISP and we are currently in the process of validating our status with a Visa approved QSA. We already have ACH authorization and our main focus right now is p2p payments (without card funding) until we can get the website completed the server migrated and the CISP designation.

                                                    Thanks for the questions, I would love to talk with you personally as you have always seemed very helpful and knowledgeable in respect to matters such as this. You can reach me via ICQ (in location)

                                                    I've got a lot of follow up posting to do before I head off for the evening. I'll check back in the AM.
                                                    The accounts are FDIC insured.

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                                                      • Diligent
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2003
                                                        • 1594
                                                        #164
                                                        Woooot!!

                                                        This wasn't just talk I see... (not that I had thought so either) ;)

                                                        Chio, I may very well be SOOO signed up with Your solutions in a while!
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                                                          • Sysgenix
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2005
                                                            • 287
                                                            #165
                                                            Looks great, I think has potential if it can last.
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                                                              • fuzebox
                                                                making it rain
                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                • 22351
                                                                #166
                                                                Originally posted by NinjaSteve
                                                                If you've lost thousands to a processor closing or holding funds and then dropping off the face of the earth I'm sure you'd be asking some important questions to an up and coming service that affects your money.
                                                                I have lost tens of thousands to processors

                                                                I was referring to the people squabbling over the $1.50 transfer charges.

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                                                                  • fuzebox
                                                                    making it rain
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 22351
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by Lenny2
                                                                    I'm sure everyone thought Chris Mallick was extremely competent when it came to running Epass, and while they're still around they've had, and continue to have, a large number of problems.
                                                                    When Paycom and Epassporte split, that should have been massive red flags for everyone.

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                                                                      • wateva
                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                        • Jul 2007
                                                                        • 492
                                                                        #168
                                                                        gr8 stuff............

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                                                                          • Rui
                                                                            web
                                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                                            • 9533
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                            NO ONE should be looking at things in terms of "what can you guarantee me"... thats just bad business and bad planning and extremely poor risk management.
                                                                            Allow to respectfully disagree one that, when you are dealing with people's money a simple good track record aint enough.

                                                                            Plus things can and do go south alot in this area, just ask anybody that has been around for a few years ;)

                                                                            IMHO there is a serious need of showing who is supporting, backing up and securing the service, no offense to "Chio" (the fact I don't even know his name also adds to what I'm saying) but we are talking about big business here and there is a SERIOUS need to have what I said in order to gain full industry support.

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                                                                              • doopix
                                                                                Registered User
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 62
                                                                                #170
                                                                                You should buy a top banner spot on GFY, or if you can afford buy the whole skin. Big Title: EPASS ALTERNATIVE IS HERE!

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                                                                                  • Brad Mitchell
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                                    • 9813
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    This seems like very exciting news. I'll be happy to add this as a payment method at MojoHost once everything is in it's final state and launched.

                                                                                    Brad
                                                                                    President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                                    71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                                      • Rui
                                                                                        web
                                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                                        • 9533
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by doopix
                                                                                        You should buy a top banner spot on GFY, or if you can afford buy the whole skin. Big Title: EPASS ALTERNATIVE IS HERE!
                                                                                        I think at least where GFY is located you cant do stuff like that (and in Europe you sure as hell cant...)

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                                                                                          • Brad Mitchell
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Nov 2001
                                                                                            • 9813
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by doopix
                                                                                            You should buy a top banner spot on GFY, or if you can afford buy the whole skin. Big Title: EPASS ALTERNATIVE IS HERE!
                                                                                            Normally I'd say that skinning GFY is for bros but with an Epass alternative I think it would be a fitting sponsorship to generate proper awareness.. if they had the guts to just launch it as an epass alternative in phrase..

                                                                                            Brad
                                                                                            President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
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                                                                                              • Chio
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 8002
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by djscrib
                                                                                                I realize it's still being built but here's a feature request to consider. Your XMLPay interface allows you to do raw transactions, but requires that the username/password for the account be passed in xml.

                                                                                                To increase security what about generating a random security key (A Guid would work fine) for each account and passing that instead. Users could reset their security key whenever they wanted.

                                                                                                This way if the data sent was ever captured, the "hacker" would wind up with an API key, and the only damage they could do with it is bill their own credit card account basically. They couldn't log into a user's account and withdraw money.

                                                                                                Also, it would allow you to give the key to a 3rd party shopping cart provider to perform transactions on your behalf, without worrying about them logging into your account and stealing your shit.

                                                                                                The xml api is over ssl on our side, this means that even if the stream is intercepted by a "hacker" during its transit the contents would be encrypted anyway. Using SSL encryption means that if the stream were to be intercepted the person intercepting would require private keys to be able to decode the information, and consequentially the passed username and password. This could potentially take years to crack and, during that time, we'd hope that your passwords would be updated for your own security reasons.

                                                                                                This is certainly a feature we could implement, or even issuing private key pairs to establish direct secure connections to us rather than using SSL over HTTP... but we feel HTTPS does cover the requirements for security in this case. If this is something that does really concern you though we'll be happy to discuss it further and try to come up with a solution that fits better with your needs.

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                                                                                                  • djscrib
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                                    • 147
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    In regards to the XMLAPI.

                                                                                                    SSL pretty much nullifies man in the middle attacks so that's not the "hole" in the xml api format. The hole is that the code on your server, needs to contain your username/password. The more likely scenario is that a hacker cracks into your code and grabs the file with that info. They now can log into your account and send themselves money for example. An access key that is only usable for the XMLAPI is much less sensitive if it does indeed get compromised. I just see this as an issue with a lot of adult webmasters not being security gods.

                                                                                                    The two other advantages, is companies that contract out their development again don't have to give their account number to consultants. (You'd give a consultant your ePass id, but not your PayPal username and password to set up your site).

                                                                                                    And the advantage that I'm interested in personally, it allows software providers of shopping cart solutions or other services to perform billing on behalf of verified charge customers safely.

                                                                                                    For example say I have a downloadable video service where I handle everything for 3rd parties. You simply have to give me your VerifiedCharge info, and purchases are automatically credited to your bank account. This same scenario holds true for shopping carts and the link. If the info required is a token, then you're probably fairly willing to grant me access to that. (This is what Paypal does for shopping cart integration). If the info is your username/password that grant full access to your account, it seems like a large safety risk.

                                                                                                    Anyhow, just a thought which I think would add some business options and beef up your security.

                                                                                                    To implement simply add a field called "xml-token" to the database for each merchant. When the merchant account is created auto-generate a GUID and insert it. Display this GUID to the user and give them the option to re-generate it.

                                                                                                    When an XML API request hits your server, have them pass the username/xml-token instead of username/password. Your code instead of doing a username/password lookup in the db, you lookup username/token.

                                                                                                    Oh one last thing.

                                                                                                    In your API I can simply pass username/password pairs to your service until the XML returned says OK. Thus if I know your username, I can make guesses at your password via an automated password guesser program until I find it. Once I have that, I can go to town on your account. Some studies have shown that average passwords can be cracked with dictionary attacks in a matter of minutes. GUID's on the other hand are effectively impossible to guess.

                                                                                                    Anyhow I just had my access to the XML API approved so I'm gonna go test drive it.

                                                                                                    Service looks great so far!
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                                                                                                      • minusonebit
                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                                        • 7391
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        bump.......

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                                                                                                          • justsexxx
                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                                            • 13723
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                                            q:

                                                                                                            In what region are you registred? I am asking this because right now we use CCBILL EU and paycomeEU. We can not use a CC processor in another region for the same site. You said you had a bank in US/UK and soon in Netherlands. But what is the region we can choose(or which region 'are' you)
                                                                                                            bump
                                                                                                            Questions?

                                                                                                            ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                                                              • DebsDeep
                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                • 2649
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                This is awesome
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                                                                                                                  • mrsoul
                                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                    • 32
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Looks promising

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                                                                                                                      • Unlimited
                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                        • 1301
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        wonderful!
                                                                                                                        wish ya all the best :D

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                                                                                                                          • KingK7
                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                            • 6372
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Good news, look forward to checking this out!

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                                                                                                                              • dready
                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                • 5247
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Bump
                                                                                                                                ICQ: 91139591

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                                                                                                                                  • Az A Bay Bay
                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2007
                                                                                                                                    • 1129
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Interesting

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                                                                                                                                      • djscrib
                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                                        • 147
                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Just thought I'd post a quick review of my experience so far with Verified Charge. I'm using the XML API, and have a .NET development environment (keep the uproar to a low PHP people).

                                                                                                                                        Account signup was trivial, the site looks good and easy to navigate, there are some incomplete areas but the core functionality looks to be there. A full support ticket system is functional and in place.

                                                                                                                                        I hooked up the XML Pay API with the intention of using it for Single Purchases and this took literally less than 5 minutes. The transactions failed however and I finally re-read the documentation which stated I needed to open a support ticket to get the API enabled.

                                                                                                                                        The test transactions worked flawlessly and returned in a matter of seconds.

                                                                                                                                        I then tried out a number of live transactions. The transactions generally took around 30 seconds to process. Card#, Expiration Date, CVV checking and basic AVS all seemed to be in order (I tried variants of my information to see how loose it was).

                                                                                                                                        Support time has been great and they've been proactively contacting me, even sending my account a message based on a thread I posted on GFY. (They implemented the GUID thing I discussed in the thread above in 1 day, which was very cool).

                                                                                                                                        Anyhow the experience has been great so far.
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                                                                                                                                          • mr david
                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                            • 72
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            this look very interesting i might give it a try.. it's nice with an alternative to epass

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                                                                                                                                              • Chio
                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                • 8002
                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by djscrib
                                                                                                                                                Just thought I'd post a quick review of my experience so far with Verified Charge. I'm using the XML API, and have a .NET development environment (keep the uproar to a low PHP people).

                                                                                                                                                Account signup was trivial, the site looks good and easy to navigate, there are some incomplete areas but the core functionality looks to be there. A full support ticket system is functional and in place.

                                                                                                                                                I hooked up the XML Pay API with the intention of using it for Single Purchases and this took literally less than 5 minutes. The transactions failed however and I finally re-read the documentation which stated I needed to open a support ticket to get the API enabled.

                                                                                                                                                The test transactions worked flawlessly and returned in a matter of seconds.

                                                                                                                                                I then tried out a number of live transactions. The transactions generally took around 30 seconds to process. Card#, Expiration Date, CVV checking and basic AVS all seemed to be in order (I tried variants of my information to see how loose it was).

                                                                                                                                                Support time has been great and they've been proactively contacting me, even sending my account a message based on a thread I posted on GFY. (They implemented the GUID thing I discussed in the thread above in 1 day, which was very cool).

                                                                                                                                                Anyhow the experience has been great so far.
                                                                                                                                                Thanks for the kind words.

                                                                                                                                                I'll take this post to mention that we should have full debit card support (including international support) within 3 weeks. We are finalizing some details as we speak.

                                                                                                                                                Thanks to everyone so far for the feedback during beta and your support.

                                                                                                                                                As always if you have any questions please contact me via ICQ as I am not on GFY as much these days with everything that's going on.

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                                                                                                                                                  • Chio
                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                    • 8002
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Full card support (including international cards) are to be available within 2-3 weeks. Currently withdrawal by check, wire, and ACH (for US based users) is available now.

                                                                                                                                                    If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me via ICQ (in location)

                                                                                                                                                    I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                                                                                                    RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                                                                                                      • minusonebit
                                                                                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                        • 7391
                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Bump for the END of ePassporte.

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                                                                                                                                                          • Diligent
                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                            • 1594
                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            Chio, am I wrong in thinking I should sign up for an affiliate account rather than the account created under the "Send Money" tab?

                                                                                                                                                            What are the differences between those two type of account?
                                                                                                                                                            (I'm thinking a lot of affiliates want to be able to receive sponsor payments from the get-go, and the "Send Money" tab's page indicates it's for "person to person payments"...)

                                                                                                                                                            Or is the affiliate account more for those who want to send You new clients for commission?

                                                                                                                                                            Thanks!
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                                                                                                                                                              • Chio
                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                • 8002
                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Diligent
                                                                                                                                                                Chio, am I wrong in thinking I should sign up for an affiliate account rather than the account created under the "Send Money" tab?

                                                                                                                                                                What are the differences between those two type of account?
                                                                                                                                                                (I'm thinking a lot of affiliates want to be able to receive sponsor payments from the get-go, and the "Send Money" tab's page indicates it's for "person to person payments"...)

                                                                                                                                                                Or is the affiliate account more for those who want to send You new clients for commission?

                                                                                                                                                                Thanks!

                                                                                                                                                                The send money tab is the correct sign up page for our epass/paypal type system account.

                                                                                                                                                                Please keep in mind the epass/paypal alternative will have it's own site once we fully launch (if you'd like a sneak peek icq me) but don't worry both sites are tightly integrated and you will not have to resignup.

                                                                                                                                                                If you have any questions contact me on ICQ in the AM. I'm heading off to bed for now.

                                                                                                                                                                I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                                                                                                                RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Diligent
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1594
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Nice!

                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks man, no further questions at the moment.
                                                                                                                                                                    Just wondering if I should harass those I affiliate with to offer payouts through the coming system..
                                                                                                                                                                    (but I'm guessing many are already realizing what an impact Your stuff will have).
                                                                                                                                                                    ~¤~ MORE MONEY ~¤~ VOD? XoD! ~¤~
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                                                                                                                                                                      • justsexxx
                                                                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                        • 13723
                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                                                                                                        q:

                                                                                                                                                                        In what region are you registred? I am asking this because right now we use CCBILL EU and paycomeEU. We can not use a CC processor in another region for the same site. You said you had a bank in US/UK and soon in Netherlands. But what is the region we can choose(or which region 'are' you)
                                                                                                                                                                        bump bump
                                                                                                                                                                        Questions?

                                                                                                                                                                        ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                                                                                                                          • pizzaid
                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                            • Oct 2007
                                                                                                                                                                            • 406
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Looks awesome Chio...will be investigating today
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Klen
                                                                                                                                                                                • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                • 32235
                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                Chio sended you icq please respond

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • DEA - banned for life
                                                                                                                                                                                    V.I.P.
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 7886
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    FUCK EPASS ..bump

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Chio
                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 8002
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by justsexxx
                                                                                                                                                                                        bump bump
                                                                                                                                                                                        Sorry I've missed this we've been very busy as you can imagine. We are currently based in the US and UK and as we grow hope to expand our presence to other regions. Currently we are focusing on the epass/paypal system and getting that live while we await pci and cisp certification for the merchant side.

                                                                                                                                                                                        If you have any questions please contact me on icq as I am not able to check these threads too often and I don't want people waiting for answers.

                                                                                                                                                                                        I seo'd my hair yesterday and today it's pr7!
                                                                                                                                                                                        RIP Texas Dreams

                                                                                                                                                                                        Are you a content producer or program owner sick of tube sites? Contact me on ICQ: 39-183769

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • rocketrich
                                                                                                                                                                                            Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 51
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Chio
                                                                                                                                                                                            Currently our accounts are with BOA and we are in the process of setting up the ability to do sub accounts (insured FDIC 100,000.00 per account)

                                                                                                                                                                                            Merchants will be required to send address verification, photo id, telephone numbers will be verified electronically bank and card verification. For ACH we require the above in addition to a signed Credit/debit authorization form.

                                                                                                                                                                                            By PCS do you mean PCI? If so, yes we have met all the requirements for PCI, and thus CISP and we are currently in the process of validating our status with a Visa approved QSA. We already have ACH authorization and our main focus right now is p2p payments (without card funding) until we can get the website completed the server migrated and the CISP designation.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for the questions, I would love to talk with you personally as you have always seemed very helpful and knowledgeable in respect to matters such as this. You can reach me via ICQ (in location)

                                                                                                                                                                                            I've got a lot of follow up posting to do before I head off for the evening. I'll check back in the AM.
                                                                                                                                                                                            Good answer! Shouldn't kimmykim know what PCI standards are?? What the heck is PCS.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • ServerGenius
                                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Feb 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 9377
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                Why is it still in Beta and why is there hardly any promotion for it?
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • PPjohn
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 871
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Very intresting

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • [ScreaM]
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 1664
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Awesome. Great work Chio.

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