The Epass/Paypal Alternative I have been hinting at for years has arrived.

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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #51
    Originally posted by Chio
    Sorry Mutt the rates for 3rd party are 5% for beta (grandfathered)
    5%? the other third party processors are between 12 and 15%. how can you offer such a better rate? for high risk internet even if i got a merchant account it would be about 8% I thought.
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    • Drake
      Hello world!
      • Mar 2003
      • 12508

      #52
      Very interesting news. Congrats Chio.

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      • Chio
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2002
        • 8002

        #53
        Originally posted by Mutt
        5%? the other third party processors are between 12 and 15%. how can you offer such a better rate? for high risk internet even if i got a merchant account it would be about 8% I thought.
        I have been an IPSP since 1998 (my avs) and have built up very solid relationships so I am able to get pretty good rates.

        Also it is only 5% for beta (which stays with you after launch) we will likely launch at 10% with a sliding scale based on the risk of an individual merchant.

        For example a merchant with very few chargebacks processing rate would begin to decline over time and the flip side is a merchant with a high number would increase.

        We don't think it's fair to charge someone doing clean business the same rate as a merchant that isn't.

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        • starpimps
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          • Sep 2006
          • 6954

          #54
          ooo snap, great news!

          This will be a force to be reckoned with

          congrats chio
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          • Aric
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2002
            • 1209

            #55
            Chio for president!

            yargh!
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            • Mutt
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2002
              • 34431

              #56
              Originally posted by Chio
              I have been an IPSP since 1998 (my avs) and have built up very solid relationships so I am able to get pretty good rates.

              Also it is only 5% for beta (which stays with you after launch) we will likely launch at 10% with a sliding scale based on the risk of an individual merchant.

              For example a merchant with very few chargebacks processing rate would begin to decline over time and the flip side is a merchant with a high number would increase.

              We don't think it's fair to charge someone doing clean business the same rate as a merchant that isn't.
              that sounds good
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              • Shoehorn!
                Die With Your Boots On
                • Oct 2003
                • 22872

                #57
                Congratulations man.

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                • Jace
                  FBOP Class Of 2013
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 35562

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Chio
                  You do have to pay to fund your account though (as high as 25.00 if I remember correctly) which is already factored into their rates. So you're likely paying more than 25 cents.

                  I will say this... we will be competitive with all of the major p2p systems.
                  i don't ever fund my account with epassporte, the last thing I wanna do is go out of my way to give them money, with you it will be different though

                  in fact, until last month I wasn't allowed to fund my account because I didn't purchase one of their visa cards....LOL

                  I usually let money come in from a couple of sponsors I let pay me by epass, then use that money for p2p, which is $.25

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                  • Mickey Mouse
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 104

                    #59
                    Looks good. Sure hope it works out. Suggestion for ya though, I'd feel a bit more comfortable if you used SSL on the signup page--I'm sure you'll do this before it's out of beta though.

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                    • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 16502

                      #60
                      nice, about time chio, always spouting off about it in irc!

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                      • Chio
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8002

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Mickey Mouse
                        Looks good. Sure hope it works out. Suggestion for ya though, I'd feel a bit more comfortable if you used SSL on the signup page--I'm sure you'll do this before it's out of beta though.
                        The signup forms are secured. I inadvertanly posted the non secure link in my post but if you go to the site and click the send money link you'll be directed to the secure page.

                        Sorry about that.

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                        • peterk
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3529

                          #62
                          Nice
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                          • Juicy D. Links
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 122992

                            #63
                            chio will be there like a atm type card

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                            • he-fox
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 2884

                              #64
                              QUOTE:
                              and soon via debit or virtual credit card.
                              /QUOTE

                              I'm expecting for this one to happen. Which bank will handle the VISA or MC cards?

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                              • Juicy D. Links
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 122992

                                #65
                                forget last question i am tired i didnt read earlier post , can i get a cobranded visa card?

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                                • minusonebit
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 7391

                                  #66
                                  Is anyone running a book yet on how long before ePass fails completely?

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                                  • gecko
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                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 21846

                                    #67
                                    this is great news
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                                    • madawgz
                                      8.8.8.8
                                      • Mar 2006
                                      • 30509

                                      #68
                                      thats awesome
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                                      • minusonebit
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 7391

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by gecko
                                        this is great news
                                        You can say that again.

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                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 40377

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Jace
                                          i am not quite sure that many people grasp the gravity of this new service that chio is offering

                                          and one thing is for sure, with Chio behind it, it WILL NOT fail..he is one person I would stake my entire reputation on, when he does shit, he does it right the first time
                                          I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


                                          Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

                                          If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

                                          But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts.
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                                          • marko13
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2004
                                            • 7512

                                            #71
                                            good luck chio with that new option....
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                                            • minusonebit
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 7391

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                              I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


                                              Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

                                              If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

                                              But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts.
                                              iBill?

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                                              • Chio
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 8002

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


                                                Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

                                                If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

                                                But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts.
                                                You do raise some valid concerns and this is precisely why there are banking laws, money transmission requirements, and accountability... to keep people safe.

                                                I am offering a solution to people that are looking for one but it's simple...
                                                If you don't feel comfortable using a new system... don't.

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                                                RIP Texas Dreams

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                                                • Shoehorn!
                                                  Die With Your Boots On
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 22872

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                  I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.
                                                  Then I suspect you've never met him or even talked with him. I can honestly say hes one of the most trustworthy, honest people that I know, and I normally don't trust ANYONE.

                                                  In fact, I can count on one hand the people I actually trust, including family, and he is one of them.

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                                                  • Jace
                                                    FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 35562

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                    I will be perhaps the only one to say this but I'd rather trust with my money someone who used to co-own or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult, than someone who got originally famous playing a pirate on a message board.


                                                    Nothing againt Chio but you just can't say that it will not fail.

                                                    If you got money in Citibank, you know you're safe.

                                                    But no online virtual payment should be really trusted with high amounts.
                                                    after this past year for me I can say Chio is one of maybe 10 total people in adult that would trust, and that is out of knowing 1000+ people in the adult industry

                                                    and if you still trust the "co-owner or be CEO (?) for years of one of the two biggest processors in adult" after this past year then I hate to say it, but you need help....epass has shown to be one of the most incompetent companies in adult

                                                    btw, why isn't Chris Mallick ceo/co-owner of paycom anymore?

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                                                    • martinsc
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                      • 27047

                                                      #76
                                                      wow, finally some real good news on gfy
                                                      great job Chio
                                                      as soon as the cards are ready and sponsors will paying through VC - i'll be in
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                                                      • Due
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Mar 2001
                                                        • 3620

                                                        #77
                                                        I see no information about what a credit card load to the account cost, or any other fees involved.
                                                        I dont see how you can launch a service without a price list.
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                                                        • JuiceMonkey
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2004
                                                          • 3581

                                                          #78
                                                          We've been one of the lucky ones who got to beta test this out. From the moment you sign up you can easily see that this service will dominate the market very quickly.

                                                          I don't think people understand how good of an offer this is, 5% processing is unheard of at any processor, even if you're one of the big boys!

                                                          Congrats on the soft launch, and we can't wait until all of the features are unrolled.
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                                                          • VicD
                                                            ICQ: 304-611-162
                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                            • 13245

                                                            #79
                                                            cool, gonna check it out right now...
                                                            are the aff programs also interested to use the service?

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                                                            • macker
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                              • 2161

                                                              #80
                                                              Congrats on the launch, the industry has needed a viable alternative for a long while.

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                                                              • justsexxx
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 13723

                                                                #81
                                                                Hey, do you mean when I join (for creditcard processing) I only pay 5%? While ccbill/epoch etc charge like 12%?

                                                                Do you have an affiliateadmin as well? Or do we need a 3rd party system like MAS/NATS etc?
                                                                Questions?

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                                                                • JFK
                                                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                  • 67373

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by Chio
                                                                  For epass it costs 2.00 to make a payout to affiliates (en masse) paypal charges 1.00 for their mass payment option but it cannot be used for adult.

                                                                  Not sure who you're referring to with those numbers but I think we're very competitive being in the middle of the two.
                                                                  YES, the rates are competetive, I will check it out!
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                                                                  • justsexxx
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                    • 13723

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Also, are you hosting everything at theplanet? Do you have physical access to your servers?
                                                                    Questions?

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                                                                    • NinjaSteve
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 11089

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Chio
                                                                      You do have to pay to fund your account though (as high as 25.00 if I remember correctly) which is already factored into their rates. So you're likely paying more than 25 cents.

                                                                      I will say this... we will be competitive with all of the major p2p systems.
                                                                      epassporte fees say
                                                                      Loading/Funding Your Account Using a Visa
                                                                      US$5.00 per US $100 loaded or portion thereof.

                                                                      Loading/Funding Your Account Using a US Bank Account
                                                                      Initial Load Fee: US$5.00
                                                                      (Applies only to accounts that have not yet purchased a Visa Virtual Account)
                                                                      Re-Load Fee: US$2.00
                                                                      So that means to do an ACH it's $2 load my account, and then p2p transfers are $0.25. If I'm sending 10 transfers a month and have to load my account once per month the fees are $4.50. With you it sounds like they'd be $15.00.

                                                                      You might consider in the future to distinguish between affiliate payouts and p2p.
                                                                      ...

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                                                                      • Nicky
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                        • 30071

                                                                        #85
                                                                        This is great, I want to work for you Chio

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                                                                        • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                                          • 7515

                                                                          #86
                                                                          the name of the service is Verified Charge?

                                                                          no offense, but it sounds dumb

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                                                                          • maddox
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 648

                                                                            #87
                                                                            who will issue the electron cards? is it going to be like US bank where they can get info about every user (which of course I don't want) or some offshore bank ?

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                                                                            • Jace
                                                                              FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                              • 35562

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by NinjaSteve
                                                                              epassporte fees say


                                                                              So that means to do an ACH it's $2 load my account, and then p2p transfers are $0.25. If I'm sending 10 transfers a month and have to load my account once per month the fees are $4.50. With you it sounds like they'd be $15.00.

                                                                              You might consider in the future to distinguish between affiliate payouts and p2p.
                                                                              I dont' believe the p2p service is up and running yet, and I am pretty sure it will be a seperate site from this

                                                                              i might be mistaken though

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                                                                              • Penny24Seven
                                                                                So Fucking What
                                                                                • Jun 2007
                                                                                • 6287

                                                                                #89
                                                                                count me in, I want to add it to my DVD store
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                                                                                • AmigoPorn
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                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 21583

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Signing up as we speak
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                                                                                  • MaDalton
                                                                                    I am Amazing Content!
                                                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                                                    • 39861

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    can i wire money from my account to a european bank account?

                                                                                    without having to complete fax forms but just by doing it online like i can with paypal?
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                                                                                    • Marshal
                                                                                      Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                                      • Jun 2005
                                                                                      • 15219

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      i was unable to see https used on your site. is this just me?
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                                                                                      • Marshal
                                                                                        Biz Dev and SEO
                                                                                        • Jun 2005
                                                                                        • 15219

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by nettrust
                                                                                        i was unable to see https used on your site. is this just me?
                                                                                        well, at least i don't think you linked https... so, everything's fine so far!
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                                                                                        • Jace
                                                                                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                          • 35562

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by nettrust
                                                                                          i was unable to see https used on your site. is this just me?
                                                                                          did you read the thread?

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                                                                                          • OneWhoKnows
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2005
                                                                                            • 873

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Well, what can I say besides just THANKS CHIO!!!!!!

                                                                                            I was one of those screaming for an alternative and now it looks like this will become reality very soon. Your rates sound pretty cool to me so far - can't wait to see the final solution.

                                                                                            So, let's all just hope a lot of sponsors will start to use it when it becomes available. That would finally be a complete solution by adult for adult

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                                                                                            • CJLog
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Jun 2007
                                                                                              • 35

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Interesting, thx!

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                                                                                              • dready
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                                                • 5247

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Looks awesome! Chio, can you please hit me up?
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                                                                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                                  • 13449

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Let me be the first to say
                                                                                                  YARGH!!!
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                                                                                                  • dready
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                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                                    • 5247

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Signed up and got: Error UAC01
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                                                                                                    • pornguy
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 62912

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      So basically this is JUST LIKE epass, but with the ability to sell things like paypal.?????
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