Bush just asked for another 42.3 Billion for war.. - GoFuckYourself.com

Casa Nova · 10-22-2007, 10:55 AM

That would bring your total spent on the war to 189.3 Billion! No wonder America is in debt... he's addressing the war, and didn't even say one thing about the California fires... how about putting some money into better supplies at home, like more fire trucks etc. My hatred for Bush grows with every speech he makes

GrouchyAdmin · 10-22-2007, 10:58 AM

They've got the fucking Terminator. California can fend for itself.

directfiesta · 10-22-2007, 11:11 AM

all on the pretense of ' supporting the troops .... '

rootyb · 10-22-2007, 11:14 AM

Yeah, that money's not gonna help the troops at all. I heard he's had architects working on plans for a self-sustaining ice mansion in Tikrit, for when he gets too hot during photo-ops.

CheneyRumsfeld · 10-22-2007, 11:15 AM

the democrates will approve it

directfiesta · 10-22-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CheneyRumsfeld

the democrates will approve it

.. they have no balls .

Farang · 10-22-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

They've got the fucking Terminator. California can fend for itself.

Fap · 10-22-2007, 11:30 AM

silly bush...

WiredGuy · 10-22-2007, 11:42 AM

For some reason I thought the total spent on the war would have been much higher than 190 billion. Its been several years, I thought it would have been over a trillion by now.
WG

axelez · 10-22-2007, 12:14 PM

didnt bush ask for like 180 billion about 2 months ago .........

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

That would bring your total spent on the war to 189.3 Billion! No wonder America is in debt... he's addressing the war, and didn't even say one thing about the California fires... how about putting some money into better supplies at home, like more fire trucks etc. My hatred for Bush grows with every speech he makes

This isn't communist canada. Firefighting is not a federal issue, and until California requests federal assistance they will stay out.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CheneyRumsfeld

the democrates will approve it

Most likely.

Wizzo · 10-22-2007, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

For some reason I thought the total spent on the war would have been much higher than 190 billion. Its been several years, I thought it would have been over a trillion by now.
WG

There's another 200-500 billion that isn't "considered" war spending, even though its a direct result of the war...

buzzy · 10-22-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This isn't communist canada. Firefighting is not a federal issue, and until California requests federal assistance they will stay out.

It is in a society that isnt retarded

Slick · 10-22-2007, 12:30 PM

Yeah, it's a LOT more important to send all our money over there while they're cutting education and money to other important programs here in the States

KILL_FRENZY · 10-22-2007, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

They've got the fucking Terminator. California can fend for itself.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

It is in a society that isnt retarded

WTF do you know? You have a fucking queen.

buzzy · 10-22-2007, 12:48 PM

Haha, yeah but she dosen't do anything. Better than having a monkey as presdient, though ours is no better.

stev0 · 10-22-2007, 12:52 PM

Pretty ridiculous... no wonder the US debt is so huge and the economy is going down the shitter. I guess they've already turned Iraq into a terrorist haven, so they can't back out now but the price still seems crazy. Going to be quite the pickle for whoever takes over office.

stev0 · 10-22-2007, 12:52 PM

Pretty ridiculous... no wonder the US debt is so huge and the economy is going down the shitter. I guess they've already turned Iraq into a terrorist haven, so they can't back out now but the price still seems crazy. Going to be quite the pickle for whoever takes over office.

directfiesta · 10-22-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

like more fire trucks etc. My hatred for Bush grows with every speech he makes

What more fire trucks ????

Get on with the program :

Firetrucks, Waterplanes and firefighter are better sent to ... let's say ... Iran.
This way, by being over ... there , you can fight them there , far from the fatherland ; So you don't have to fight them here ...

Simple, no ?

stev0 · 10-22-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This isn't communist canada. Firefighting is not a federal issue, and until California requests federal assistance they will stay out.

You sure they haven't requested assistance yet? Watching CNN now, firefighters say they don't have nearly enough resources to contain the fires. When Cali was having fire trouble in '03 or '04, I believe they requested assistance pretty early, and in previous years we've had Canadian firefighters and water bombers down there helping out.

This seems a lot worse so far, if they haven't requested assistance yet I don't know what they're waiting for...

GAMEFINEST · 10-22-2007, 01:18 PM

thats alot of money ...

Voodoo · 10-22-2007, 01:21 PM

I have a better solution.

Let's just overestimate how many troops we have there...
2,000,000 troops.

Let's say that it costs $3,000.00 per troop to bring them back to the U.S. and pull out of this war and cut our losses.

That's 2,000,000 x $3,000.00 = $6,000,000,000

That's a savings of $36,000,000,000.00!

seeric · 10-22-2007, 01:22 PM

i like voodoos idea.

_Richard_ · 10-22-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This isn't communist canada. Firefighting is not a federal issue, and until California requests federal assistance they will stay out.

communist canada?

communism like illegal prisoners, censorship etc?

rootyb · 10-22-2007, 01:35 PM

Hahahaha.

$3,000 per soldier? Maybe if you're talking leaving everything behind and running for the nearest plane/ship, and then you've got to take into account the amount of lost equipment.

Bush is an idiot, but even he wouldn't be staying in Iraq for shits and grins. Everyone knows it's a clusterfuck out there, but the mistake was made when we went in. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and cry about new requests for money, but that money isn't exactly going toward gold-plated toilets for the presidential washroom.

Let's say we wanted to just cut and run. Full withdrawal from Iraq; all US troops and equipment. I'd be amazed if we could do it at a cost less than a 200% increase in the number of troops out there, and over $100bn, just for withdrawal. That's "Screw you guys, we're going home", and loading up everything and heading home. Mind, that's doing it in a manner that's relatively safe for our troops and equipment, so we could probably shave some cash off if we're willing to cut corners there.

Of course, we could just drop everything and pretend we never went out there. Really, those soldiers out there are just going to cost us even more in the long run, if we bring them back. Better to let them learn Arabic and find a hut to crash in til they can milk enough goats to buy a plane ticket home.

peterk · 10-22-2007, 01:37 PM

don't worry Bush have the power ... j/k

Casa Nova · 10-22-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

What more fire trucks ????

Get on with the program :

Firetrucks, Waterplanes and firefighter are better sent to ... let's say ... Iran.
This way, by being over ... there , you can fight them there , far from the fatherland ; So you don't have to fight them here ...

Simple, no ?

... you obviously didn't understand what I was getting at. My point was that the money could be spent much better on things that you need right at home. For instance California is saying they don't have all the necessary resources to fight these fires.. so why not invest in things that will prevent these fires from spreading so fast, some experimental things etc. Spend the money on improving the life of your citizens in America. Pouring more and more money into this war that should be over by now is pointless at this point.

Casa Nova · 10-22-2007, 01:56 PM

Double post.

The Dawg · 10-22-2007, 02:03 PM

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In addition to the money for the Pentagon, Bush asked for $6.9 billion for the State Department to support diplomacy and development in Iraq and Afghanistan, and $200 million for other agencies, bringing the total request to $196.4 billion.

What does that mean exactly?

stev0 · 10-22-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

You sure they haven't requested assistance yet? Watching CNN now, firefighters say they don't have nearly enough resources to contain the fires. When Cali was having fire trouble in '03 or '04, I believe they requested assistance pretty early, and in previous years we've had Canadian firefighters and water bombers down there helping out.

This seems a lot worse so far, if they haven't requested assistance yet I don't know what they're waiting for...

--edit--

They did ask for federal assistance today and assistance from neighboring states

baddog · 10-22-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

For instance California is saying they don't have all the necessary resources to fight these fires.. so why not invest in things that will prevent these fires from spreading so fast, some experimental things etc.

Ummm, like growing cement trees or something?

I could just see the uproar it we decided to spray fireproofing on all our trees.

Fire good. Fire necessary. People using shake shingles because they look nice are not too smart.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

--edit--

They did ask for federal assistance today and assistance from neighboring states

Well, just saw Arnold say it was offered.

directfiesta · 10-22-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

... you obviously didn't understand what I was getting at. My point was that the money could be spent much better on things that you need right at home. For instance California is saying they don't have all the necessary resources to fight these fires.. so why not invest in things that will prevent these fires from spreading so fast, some experimental things etc. Spend the money on improving the life of your citizens in America. Pouring more and more money into this war that should be over by now is pointless at this point.

you obviously missed the sarcasm of my post .....

next time, I will add <sarcasm/>.

BTW, I agree with you.

GreyWolf · 10-22-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

Bush just asked for another 42.3 Billion for war..

So, one clueless corrupt imbecile wanker is asking other clueless corrupt imbecile wankers for more money? Sure ... no problem.. it's lala land - have 500 billon extra - who cares?

Everything they do is wasted and pointless anyway

Skillz Unlimited · 10-22-2007, 02:48 PM

He (Bush) works very closely with the international bankers. The more money he spends on the war, the more the government has to borrow from the international bankers. In turn he get's a piece of that borrowed money just for making it happen. It's all one big plan for all of them to stay rich. He's doing this on his way out of office along with working very closely with the mexican government. All of this is done with the international bankers best interest at hand and in turn, bush makes money. When the US, Canada, and Mexico all become one, we will share the same dollar known as the amero. This money will still be borrowed from the international bankers and bush will still get a cut. So while he's still in office, bush recently signed a bill allowing mexican semi trucks to travel further into the U.S. Not to mention, Mexico has a very big oil presence. None of these decisions are made to better the people. All of these decisions are made for the better of the big boys club.

The International Bankers run everything. Please do not ever forget that.

Jman · 10-22-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

This isn't communist canada. Firefighting is not a federal issue, and until California requests federal assistance they will stay out.

Hahaha man you are the biggest imbecile on this board... And the oldest to

Keep it up ol' mutt

frostyimpressions · 10-22-2007, 03:20 PM

My sentiments exactly.

Vick! · 10-22-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Casa Nova

That would bring your total spent on the war to 189.3 Billion!

In what world you are living dude?

Read this shit.

Iraq war could cost US over $2 trillion, says Nobel prize-winning economist

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The real cost to the US of the Iraq war is likely to be between $1 trillion and $2 trillion (£1.1 trillion), up to 10 times more than previously thought, according to a report written by a Nobel prize-winning economist and a Harvard budget expert.

More:

The $2 Trillion Dollar War

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A leading economist says the true cost of Iraq is far higher than President Bush claims -- and America will pay the price for decades to come.

yys · 10-22-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

For some reason I thought the total spent on the war would have been much higher than 190 billion. Its been several years, I thought it would have been over a trillion by now.
WG

They have spent close to 200 billion this year alone and close to 1 trillion total on both the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

tony286 · 10-22-2007, 03:36 PM

its a shame the dems got voted in to stop this nonsense and they have done nothing, their all too scared to take a stand. Thats why I say all senators and congressman one term 8 yrs and then your out. So the focus is on whats good for america not keeping thier job.

GreyWolf · 10-22-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skillz Unlimited

He (Bush) works very closely with the international bankers. The more money he spends on the war, the more the government has to borrow from the international bankers.

The irony is the imbecile could not get past a credit check with a real banker - they'd recommend the 'corporation' be liquidated and closed down if they saw the accounts.

Sure, it has been an issue of borrowing from eg China, Japan, Mexico and numerous other nations for years now - and even borrowing off "third world countries" - awesome. These daily borrowings are well into the billions and it's out of control and past the stage for more credit/loans.

That debt situation obviously carries other great risks in that creditor nations can change their policy and can seriously affect dollar values. Forgetting wars and political crap - this pathetic alleged fiscal policy is just not even sane. The country is no longer self-sustaining and has very little prospects - at least in the next ten years ahead.

100:1 there will be a major credit sqeeze at various levels (including internationally) in the next few years - tho it may already have started. When that rolls into full swing - it's a hell of a problem to stop, if it can even be stopped.

Personally, I support death squads for idiocy and incompetence

2012 · 10-22-2007, 06:07 PM

good thing he vetoed that stupid health care for kids thing. We need all we can get for the war !!! Maybe Jesus told him to do that.

that place is an ENDLESS NIGHTMARE ... it will never EVER EVER fucking EVER end. The sooner we get the fuck out of there the sooner they can rebuild their own fucking country. its going to happen sooner or later ...

spanky part 2 · 10-22-2007, 08:28 PM

He should just go to exxon-mobil and get the fucking money. They're stealing it from us anyway.

amateurcanada · 10-22-2007, 10:55 PM

I like bright red drinks.

2012 · 10-22-2007, 11:11 PM

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I like bright red drinks.

Snake Doctor · 10-22-2007, 11:13 PM

So that's like what, 125 euros?

Maybe Britain can float us a loan.

ClubMicah · 10-22-2007, 11:14 PM

when i was living in oregon during his second mother fucking run you bet your asses i was out january 20th counterinaugerating that mother fucker. some good i did hahaha

Casa Nova · 10-22-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2

He should just go to exxon-mobil and get the fucking money. They're stealing it from us anyway.

he saves that for his personal bank account.

10-22-2007, 10:55 AM	#1
Casa Nova Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,867	Bush just asked for another 42.3 Billion for war.. That would bring your total spent on the war to 189.3 Billion! No wonder America is in debt... he's addressing the war, and didn't even say one thing about the California fires... how about putting some money into better supplies at home, like more fire trucks etc. My hatred for Bush grows with every speech he makes __________________ ICQ: 405 009 573

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rootyb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Yeah, that money's not gonna help the troops at all. I heard he's had architects working on plans for a self-sustaining ice mansion in Tikrit, for when he gets too hot during photo-ops.

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CheneyRumsfeld Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,341	the democrates will approve it

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Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Yeah, it's a LOT more important to send all our money over there while they're cutting education and money to other important programs here in the States

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buzzy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,606	Haha, yeah but she dosen't do anything. Better than having a monkey as presdient, though ours is no better.

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stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	Pretty ridiculous... no wonder the US debt is so huge and the economy is going down the shitter. I guess they've already turned Iraq into a terrorist haven, so they can't back out now but the price still seems crazy. Going to be quite the pickle for whoever takes over office.

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Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10,592	I have a better solution. Let's just overestimate how many troops we have there... 2,000,000 troops. Let's say that it costs $3,000.00 per troop to bring them back to the U.S. and pull out of this war and cut our losses. That's 2,000,000 x $3,000.00 = $6,000,000,000 That's a savings of $36,000,000,000.00! __________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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rootyb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 38	Hahahaha. $3,000 per soldier? Maybe if you're talking leaving everything behind and running for the nearest plane/ship, and then you've got to take into account the amount of lost equipment. Bush is an idiot, but even he wouldn't be staying in Iraq for shits and grins. Everyone knows it's a clusterfuck out there, but the mistake was made when we went in. It's easy to jump on the bandwagon and cry about new requests for money, but that money isn't exactly going toward gold-plated toilets for the presidential washroom. Let's say we wanted to just cut and run. Full withdrawal from Iraq; all US troops and equipment. I'd be amazed if we could do it at a cost less than a 200% increase in the number of troops out there, and over $100bn, just for withdrawal. That's "Screw you guys, we're going home", and loading up everything and heading home. Mind, that's doing it in a manner that's relatively safe for our troops and equipment, so we could probably shave some cash off if we're willing to cut corners there. Of course, we could just drop everything and pretend we never went out there. Really, those soldiers out there are just going to cost us even more in the long run, if we bring them back. Better to let them learn Arabic and find a hut to crash in til they can milk enough goats to buy a plane ticket home.

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Skillz Unlimited Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Califor Posts: 1,541	He (Bush) works very closely with the international bankers. The more money he spends on the war, the more the government has to borrow from the international bankers. In turn he get's a piece of that borrowed money just for making it happen. It's all one big plan for all of them to stay rich. He's doing this on his way out of office along with working very closely with the mexican government. All of this is done with the international bankers best interest at hand and in turn, bush makes money. When the US, Canada, and Mexico all become one, we will share the same dollar known as the amero. This money will still be borrowed from the international bankers and bush will still get a cut. So while he's still in office, bush recently signed a bill allowing mexican semi trucks to travel further into the U.S. Not to mention, Mexico has a very big oil presence. None of these decisions are made to better the people. All of these decisions are made for the better of the big boys club. The International Bankers run everything. Please do not ever forget that.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	its a shame the dems got voted in to stop this nonsense and they have done nothing, their all too scared to take a stand. Thats why I say all senators and congressman one term 8 yrs and then your out. So the focus is on whats good for america not keeping thier job.

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2012 So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 17,189	good thing he vetoed that stupid health care for kids thing. We need all we can get for the war !!! Maybe Jesus told him to do that. that place is an ENDLESS NIGHTMARE ... it will never EVER EVER fucking EVER end. The sooner we get the fuck out of there the sooner they can rebuild their own fucking country. its going to happen sooner or later ... __________________ best host: Webair \| best sponsor: Kink \| best coder: 688218966 \| Go Fuck Yourself

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