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|  10-05-2007, 11:47 AM | #1 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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				There is no money in gallery submissions anymore...
			 I did 10 sales with 2 blogs I build in blogspot in this last month and only spent 2 hours in total!! In the other corner, I did only 2 sales with 60 galleries submitted to 500 tgps.  Make your own conclusions.  I would like to know why most people don't start a blog campaign? I think most people still do galleries, probably because one of the following reasons: _They are too lazy to start a serious long term blog campaign _They are brain-limited to start a blog campaign and can only submit galleries, because it's too easy _They did good money in the past with galleries, and still have hope they will continue doing money with it _They are not innovative and follow the mass _They are not hungry anymore, cause they already did 500k, bought their own house, car, etc, and submit gals, to justify their day and say "i did something today" The only ones doing money with tgps or mgps are the owners of those sites, when they steal webmasters money, selling their worthless passes. I even saw a dude selling a partner account for 2000 euros, lol thats fucking crazy  and you also have those re-selling services of tgp passes.. I wonder how they sleep well at night, knowing that they are stealing people's money. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 11:56 AM | #2 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
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				 | hmmmm it seems to me that there are much more threads about blogs than about tgp's on GFY, at least in the last year 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:07 PM | #3 | 
| So Fucking What Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2006 
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				 | .... there is no money .... the blog is dead time .... thinking bigger not post blogs 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:07 PM | #4 | |
| Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box 
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 Blogs (or at least the adult industry's version of them) will eventually go the same way that TGP's have.... and it'll happen faster as people start setting up thousands at a time. | |
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|  10-05-2007, 12:08 PM | #5 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Mom's basement 
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				 | Maybe you just are not good with galleries. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:08 PM | #6 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 
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				 | I never charged for submission to my tgp network... never will either.   But your right... I stopped submitting galleries a long time ago... and doing better now then I was when I was submitting... Evolution. 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:09 PM | #7 | 
| congrats to the winners Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach 
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				 | most of the newbs go with blogs...best thing to happen to TGPs in the last 10 years.... | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:12 PM | #8 | 
| Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy 
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				 | Its all about saturation.  Report back to this thread in a year and it will be the next thing. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:13 PM | #9 | 
| In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska 
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				 | i'm still doing ok | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:34 PM | #10 | |
| :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:45 PM | #11 | 
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				 | damn, you still consider blogs innovation?   
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|  10-05-2007, 12:47 PM | #12 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2001 
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				 | Maybe, just maybe you suck at doing galleries? Ever though of that idiot? There are many people who make a lot of money with galleries. Just because you are too stupid doesnt mean other people are stupid too. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:51 PM | #13 | 
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				 | I agree ... there is definitely no money in gallery submissions ... but only for those people who just blindly submit everything everywhere and buy bad paid spots and partner accounts. It is not easy to make money with galleries, but with right knowledge and system you can make 4k+ monthly profit and still have enough time for family and fun (just like me) | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:53 PM | #14 | 
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				 | You guys should really take a try at StartSpace.com ... it is the new big thing! | 
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|  10-05-2007, 12:58 PM | #15 | |
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  Why don't they list their own galleries? I think i know the answer  | |
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|  10-05-2007, 12:59 PM | #16 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless 
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				 | I agree. at least the crappy quality ones. 
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|  10-05-2007, 01:01 PM | #17 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2001 
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				 | One thing i agree with is the partner passes story. 95% of the partner passes are pure fucking crap and the owners selling them should be shot because basically they scam the fuck out of you. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 01:14 PM | #18 | 
| My posts are basically a brain dump Join Date: Sep 2007 
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				 | Gallery submissions are still doing very well , i'm bringing my clients 5+ sales per gallery im submitting to my lists. If you follow the tgp rules and make quality gallerys then you will do well. Alot of people submit to shitty places that have no traffic or are pretty full up and do not get a proper listing.  If you find the proper places to submit to then you can make thousands and thousands of dollars   | 
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|  10-05-2007, 01:22 PM | #19 | 
| My posts are basically a brain dump Join Date: Sep 2007 
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				 | Also you say submitting gallerys are easy , that is one of the stupidest things i have ever heard everybody knows submitting gallerys is a long painful process. Maybe that why you dont make no money from them because you dont take enough time or effort into submitting them. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 01:25 PM | #20 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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 is that some kind of trick to sell any consultation service? do you offer people to tell all your hard earned secrets for free in ICQ? lol I don't get it. | |
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|  10-05-2007, 01:26 PM | #21 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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|  10-05-2007, 01:30 PM | #22 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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 every good quality site has the classic: "we only accept paid partner accounts" or "we don't accept new partners, don't bother us on ICQ or we will never talk to you again and will send you the FBI..." I hate when i read either of those two lines.. Specially the second one. | |
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|  10-05-2007, 01:56 PM | #23 | |
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|  10-05-2007, 02:41 PM | #24 | 
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				 | well, lol | 
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|  10-05-2007, 02:54 PM | #25 | 
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|  10-05-2007, 02:56 PM | #26 | 
| My posts are basically a brain dump Join Date: Sep 2007 
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				 | Obviously the accounts with good traffic are going to cost money , you have to either pay or if you are a good submitter alot of the big tgps will accept gallerys for free from you | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:06 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Dude, Blogspot does not allow adult. The only ways left to make money in porn are as follows: 1. Sell your signature for pennies and post crap on boards to justify your existance. 2. Offer to share you gallery making 'secrets' for money 3. Offer gallery submission service pretending to know what you're doing and hope for some suckers to bite. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:08 PM | #28 | 
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				 | I'm sure as long as galleries get traffic you can monetize them profitably (although, admittedly, profit margins are considerably tighter these days). If I was to do them again I'd target niche tgps and link lists, or sites like shemp's that send quality traffic. I always did well with shemale and bbw dating niches for the tgp and list market. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:11 PM | #29 | |
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				 | Sounds fantastic! do you happen to have ref code I can sign under you? oh, my bad, I noticed you already were nice enough to put them in your sig, thank you kind sir Quote: 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:18 PM | #30 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Aug 2003 
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				 | It's been awhile since I made a gallery but if you're doing it for dating I can take a look, whether you sign up under me or not, always glad to help folks out.  There are some little tricks (legit) than can be used. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:24 PM | #31 | 
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				 | nobody seems to read what Shemp said, so yep he is right (again) | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:26 PM | #32 | 
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|  10-05-2007, 03:26 PM | #33 | 
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				 | and yes I do agree with Dirty Franck as well, wow, I knew this would happen one day, but then again I am flabbergasted. | 
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|  10-05-2007, 11:11 PM | #34 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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				 | Well, I have had mines for quite some time there.. and a friend of mine has had his 50 niched blogs on 50 different blogspot subdomains for like 2 years now, with no problems.. 30 of his blogs are PR3, the rest are PR1 and PR2 and in total he's doing like 10k per month from that blog campaing and all hosted for free.. go figure.  | 
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|  10-05-2007, 11:14 PM | #35 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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 its incredible the power of marketing some people in this forum has.. they all sound so great and then you look down to their signatures, and you can realize they were obviously selling you a service in that "cool" message they were giving. | |
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|  10-05-2007, 11:16 PM | #36 | 
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AMERICA (If u didn't know yet, America is a continent, not a country) 
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|  10-05-2007, 11:52 PM | #37 | |
| So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Midwest, US 
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|  10-06-2007, 12:25 AM | #38 | 
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				 | There is no money in SEO anymore....  
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|  10-08-2007, 05:19 PM | #39 | 
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				 | When did I say I consider galleries innovative? 
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|  10-08-2007, 05:22 PM | #40 | 
| Shit... Fuck! What the Hell? Industry Role:  Join Date: Dec 2003 
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				 | I think.... money is made everywhere... you just need to be good at it. | 
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|  10-08-2007, 05:56 PM | #41 | |
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 Blogs are a waste of time ! Now spread the words please ! I miss Xpics ! A lot  | |
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|  10-08-2007, 06:47 PM | #42 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Sep 2003 
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				 | there's absolutely no $ in blogs | 
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|  10-08-2007, 07:25 PM | #43 | 
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				 | The more people who think this way, the more money/spots us submitters will get. Keep the masses away from submissions!   | 
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|  10-08-2007, 07:33 PM | #44 | 
| making it rain Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle 
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				 | I skimmed most the replies in this thread, but I do think it's true.  I've been submitting daily for about 3 years, and in the last year my earnings have gone down month by month from gallery submitting, but the sites that I spend the least amount of time on make me the most money.  This month I'm not renewing my passes and I'm stopping submitting altogether, and focussing on my new sites. Gallery submitters, your piece of the pie just got a tiny bit bigger  | 
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|  10-08-2007, 07:54 PM | #45 | |
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 - easy quick assured money - a constant flow of fresh content - great seo non recip back links etc............. Your thinking is naive to say the least  
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|  10-08-2007, 08:38 PM | #46 | 
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				 | If its a toss up between TGP and blogs then yeah i'll take blogs. But I can think of better ways to make a lot more money than blogs. | 
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|  10-08-2007, 08:53 PM | #47 | 
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				 | what I was thinking 
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|  10-09-2007, 12:08 AM | #48 | 
| Too old to care Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. 
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				 | Some of the good ones will allow you to submit using their affiliate code, so the TGP owner gets paid on the SALE. Unfortunately many know the quality of their traffic is lower than the gullibility of the webmaster. So they sell a pass. | 
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|  10-20-2007, 01:38 AM | #49 | 
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				 | This fag with 12 sales gross has all the authority in the world to tell you how to  market on the net. Go figure. | 
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|  10-20-2007, 02:30 AM | #50 | 
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				 | I think porn tube sites killing tgps.. | 
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