Why are most pro-lifers also pro-death penalty?

[SykkBoy]

Isn't it ironic that those who want to stop killing fetuses don't mind killing bad adults...

If all life is sacred, then doesn't that mean ALL life? Not just the good guys and unborn babies?

yes, I also see the irony in pro-abortion people who are against the death penalty...

always an interesting contradiction...

[Grapesoda]

it would seem their interest in the 'human life' ends after birth. sorta like only ugly woman and men are the only ones concerned about abortion. weird isn't it? seriously would you ever fuck a woman you've seen at a pro life rally? -bmb

[_Richard_]

is there any proof of this? or just your observation? it would be interesting if true

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

it would seem their interest in the 'human life' ends after birth. sorta like only ugly woman and men are the only ones concerned about abortion. weird isn't it? seriously would you ever fuck a woman you've seen at a pro life rally? -bmb

"Have you ever noticed that the women who are against abortion are the ones you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place" - George Carlin

[Drake]

They're usually religious and religion is full of contradictions. You can't reason with them either. It makes as much sense as Alice In Wonderland's rabbit hole.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Sexbankroll

is there any proof of this? or just your observation? it would be interesting if true

This will shock many GFYers, but the last couple months, I've been going to church (very long story ;-)) and in talking to some of these people, it seems the ones who are most strongly "pro-life" when it comes to abortion are "pro-death" when it comes to criminals...

[Antonio]

one cocksucker sentenced to death will save approximately 8 lives, simple math, so fry them fuckers

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Antonio

one cocksucker sentenced to death will save approximately 8 lives, simple math, so fry them fuckers

what if the fetus being saved from abortion turns out to be the guy that ends up getting the electric chair?

[directfiesta]

It is pretty simple :

You are pro-life, so unwanted babies born from women who would have chosed abortion, can be neglected and turn in majority to a life of crime.

Feeds the supply of individual to execute ....



</sarcasm>

[Martin3]

Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left.

Though I really think you'd have to be a fool to compare an unborn fetus with a convicted murderer.

[dig420]

because they parrot whatever they're told to say, 'believe' whatever they're told to believe, regardless of whatever knot they have to contort themselves into to hold these contradictory beliefs. It's just like the way they all like to think of themselves as rugged individualists so concerned with personal liberties against the tyrannical govt. while they vote over and over and over to concentrate power in one branch of govt. To make a King.

Martin, a doctor usually performs abortions for the benefit of the woman, not because they like to kill babies. You poor dumbass.

[Brother Bilo]

Originally Posted by Martin3

Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left.

Though I really think you'd have to be a fool to compare an unborn fetus with a convicted murderer.

Agreed. There is a big difference between killing some scumbag who raped, killed and worn the skin of his victims and an unborn baby.

But, if the argument the pro-lifers make is that ALL life is sacred, then why not this scumbags life too?

I guess whatever choice is more popular is what some folks will back.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Martin3

Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left.

Though I really think you'd have to be a fool to compare an unborn fetus with a convicted murderer.

Yup, mentioned that in my first post...

well it's not so much about comparing them rather than if they have a concept of all life is sacred, then it should be ALL life and not selective life...

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Agreed. There is a big difference between killing some scumbag who raped, killed and worn the skin of his victims and an unborn baby.

But, if the argument the pro-lifers make is that ALL life is sacred, then why not this scumbags life too?

I guess whatever choice is more popular is what some folks will back.

whoa scary, we posted pretty close to the same thing at the same time...

[David!]

Originally Posted by Martin3

Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left.

Though I really think you'd have to be a fool to compare an unborn fetus with a convicted murderer.

Absolutely

Any way you look at it, abortion is killing a potentially viable human being. However, it should be left up to the mother to decide wether to carry her pregrancy to term or not. Although I wouldn't mind some kind of watch group when it comes to late term abortion, but again anytime you allow a watch group, then you open yourself to problems.

Murderers are a burden on society as it costs a lot of money to keep them alive and healthy. In cases where there is absolutely no doubt on their guilt, then a quick death penalty would be preferable...

[Martin3]

Originally Posted by dig420

Martin, a doctor usually performs abortions for the benefit of the woman, not because they like to kill babies. You poor dumbass.

Wow, you have the reading comprehension skills of a mound of dirt and I'm the poor dumbass?

I never said I was against abortion, I'm not. And abortions done for womans health probably only make up less then 2-3% of all abortions done.

Would be pointless for me to try and explain anything else for you as you're likely already confused, if you're even still reading this post.

[dig420]

Originally Posted by Martin3

Wow, you have the reading comprehension skills of a mound of dirt and I'm the poor dumbass?

I never said I was against abortion, I'm not. And abortions done for womans health probably only make up less then 2-3% of all abortions done.

Would be pointless for me to try and explain anything else for you as you're likely already confused, if you're even still reading this post.

then don't make dumbass posts.

"Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left."

That's not a 'far left' position, it's a common sense position. If the difference between an abortion and the death penalty have to be pointed out to you, you're too thick to comprehend it anyway.

[DaddyHalbucks]

In both cases, they seek to proect the innocent.

Opposition to abortion is about protecting fetuses, who haven't harmed anyone.

The death penalty is about protecting society from malignant persons in society who harm other people.

Personally, I am pro choice.

[Martin3]

Originally Posted by dig420

then don't make dumbass posts.

"Not any weirder then the pro abortionist that are against the death penalty I guess. Which is pretty common with those on the far left."

That's not a 'far left' position, it's a common sense position. If the difference between an abortion and the death penalty have to be pointed out to you, you're too thick to comprehend it anyway.

You still don't get it.
On the far right you have anti abortion and pro death penalty, and the all life is sacred religious groups.
On the far left you have the pro choice, anti death penalty, and all life is sacred hippie types(they general expend life to all living things, trees, plants included)

Thus one view isn't much weirder then the other. Because you really can't compare the two.

Does that help or should I draw a picture with crayons?

[The Judge]

here's why unwanted kids are 10000 times more likely to end up as death row criminals, had their moms aborted them that would not have happened so what the good pro-life folks are doing is fix that

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by The Judge

here's why unwanted kids are 10000 times more likely to end up as death row criminals, had their moms aborted them that would not have happened so what the good pro-life folks are doing is fix that

um....that would be the pro-abortionists...because the pro-lifers would insist the fetus be born...

[dig420]

Originally Posted by Martin3

You still don't get it.
On the far right you have anti abortion and pro death penalty, and the all life is sacred religious groups.
On the far left you have the pro choice, anti death penalty, and all life is sacred hippie types(they general expend life to all living things, trees, plants included)

Thus one view isn't much weirder then the other. Because you really can't compare the two.

Does that help or should I draw a picture with crayons?

Your whole supposition here is idiotic. Stupid. These two groups do NOT equate in any way. The fact that the 'far left' ie normal people don't believe in killing people has nothing whatsoever to do with their belief that a woman's body is her own property and that adults are entitled to make their own medical decisions. Other than that it's the common sense position of course, for anyone except right wing nutballs.

I wouldn't be talking about drawing pictures with crayons for anyone if I were you.

[dig420]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

um....that would be the pro-abortionists...because the pro-lifers would insist the fetus be born...

Nobody is pro-abortion. What the fuck do you think, people sit around talking about how great abortions are or wake up in the morning all happy about how many abortions they'll get to do that day? Many people, on the other hand, are pro-choice, as they don't believe that one human being has the right to inflict their moral and religious beliefs on another human being under force of law.

[Pics Traffic]

Can your question be any dumber?

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by dig420

Nobody is pro-abortion. What the fuck do you think, people sit around talking about how great abortions are or wake up in the morning all happy about how many abortions they'll get to do that day? Many people, on the other hand, are pro-choice, as they don't believe that one human being has the right to inflict their moral and religious beliefs on another human being under force of law.

I'm just poking with sticks ;-)


I'm actually a pro-choice guy myself, though I'm personally against it, I think the woman should have the right to choose...I'm also a little soft on the death penalty...while there are certainly some strong cases for it, I think it should be reserved for the most depraved of the depraved

[dig420]

imho revenge makes us little better than the person being killed. Killing should only be done in self-defense or in wartime, since unfortunately that's still a necessity.

If we would stop locking people up for non-violent offenses, we would have plenty of room to take the violent out of society, for everyone's good.

[Az A Bay Bay]

good question????

[Snake Doctor]

You're asking for a logical response to a religious question, you're probably not going to get one.


That being said, the catholic church is consistent on the issue.

[frostyimpressions]

Because people who are religious are followers and believe everything someone or some book tells them.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Why are most pro-lifers also pro-death penalty?

Why do flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?

[Porn Farmer]

Generally pro-lifers (at least the fundamentalist christian variety) are also pro-war. They'll 'protect' a two day old embryo but call a bunch of dead muslim children "collateral damage".

I agree with the person who said that most pro-lifers interest in the unborn ends when they get out of the womb.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

The death penalty is about protecting society from malignant persons in society who harm other people.

The DP protects society? Nobody can be this stupid. Seriously, I truly believe you had to have been deprived of oxygen at birth.

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by Lenny2

Why do flammable and inflammable mean the same thing?

Because the sky is blue and vests have no sleeves...

(I had a science teacher in 7th grade that used that as his default answer when he didn't have a real answer....come to think of it, he was kinda crazy....)

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Why are most pro-lifers also pro-death penalty?

Your assumption that this is the case is probably true.

Anyone who uses a cliche with "pro" in it is a sheep following a line they no nothing about - total ignorance. They are one step up from caveman mentality.

[GreyWolf]

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

In both cases, they seek to proect the innocent.

Opposition to abortion is about protecting fetuses, who haven't harmed anyone.

The death penalty is about protecting society from malignant persons in society who harm other people.

Classic example of caveman mentality - along with a logical cliche explanation to keep life simple

[tony286]

fucked up isnt it.

[The Judge]

All western countries are pro-choice (some Catholic countries more or less) and no dp, why is America so different?

[Dirty Dane]

Its ok to kill if you are hungry.

[Steve Awesome]

It's all about timing.

[spunkmaster]

Originally Posted by dig420

Your whole supposition here is idiotic. Stupid. These two groups do NOT equate in any way. The fact that the 'far left' ie normal people don't believe in killing people has nothing whatsoever to do with their belief that a woman's body is her own property and that adults are entitled to make their own medical decisions. Other than that it's the common sense position of course, for anyone except right wing nutballs.

I wouldn't be talking about drawing pictures with crayons for anyone if I were you.

By this reasoning then why is it that when a guy beats his 6 month pregnant girlfriend or wife and kills her why do they charge him with two murders ?

Why did they convict Scott Peterson with two murders when only one live person was killed ?

So you're saying if a women kills her own baby it's ok but if the husband does it's murder ?

[dig420]

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

By this reasoning then why is it that when a guy beats his 6 month pregnant girlfriend or wife and kills her why do they charge him with two murders ?

Why did they convict Scott Peterson with two murders when only one live person was killed ?

So you're saying if a women kills her own baby it's ok but if the husband does it's murder ?

could be because prosecutors like headlines and long prison sentences, could be because the woman didn't choose to end that pregnancy, could be so many obvious reasons that if we were anywhere else but here I'd be surprised someone is so dense they have to ask that question...

[wyldworx]

i nearly ended up a lifer - paedophile met with a sharp instrument at 4 am as i stood there ballied up and ready to stick the fucker. Do two years on remand, meet a girl, fall in love, fail to appear and scarpered state, worked as estate agent, return to state, dog starts barking, cops surround building, I continue making my avocado on toast, knock at door, feeling steel, charges of home invasion, code assault (gbh), and wounding was dismissed due to the untimely death of complaintant. Nothing but maintaining the contentment since due to being enlightened by love and positivity.

moral: Lifers are pro-zac, but anti-depressant. stabbing blindly in the dark will eventually strike the switch, understanding just how lucky you were to be the only deaf cunt with good reflexes in a room full of the blind clutching to a torch is the bonus...

[wyldworx]

life needs death, death needs life - sounds like a perfect match - or might you be needing a reality check due to your selfish fear creating attitude - it wants earth to itself, which is no good to me and mine.