So how do you provide 'empirical' evidence for something that happens over millions of years? If, by empirical, you mean observed.

I think like 70% of the morons in this country don't believe in evolution, good luck convincing a 10 year old.

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Science supporters will say that the dinosaurs died because of a massive asteroid/meteor or perhaps a comet ... (hence the Yucatan crater) ...

The same way that empirical (observable) evidence is used to support micro evolution.

Micro evolution can be documented because it can happen over short periods of time, such as in the case of the peppered moth.

You haven't answered my question. How can something that happens over millions of years be 'observed'?

If "observable" evidence were the only form of evidence used to prove or disprove something.......then electrons (which can't be seen) as well as gravity would not exist......

You are a Genius!!! I told her that her friend believes in Adam and Eve the same way she used to believe in Santa and the Easter bunny, and that she shouldn't ruin it for her friend. DONE!:thumbsup

Nicely put :thumbsup

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Still waiting. :1orglaugh

Ray: Simple question: Does she believe in Santa still?

If so, time to pony up. If not, explain that God is like Santa to some people. Some people need to believe in it to feel good about their lives.

They are both fat bearded white men, too. So that works out.

I find people who believe in God scary. My wife is a hardcore Christian, and I have had many battles with her mom. I win EVERY time and she has no rebuttle other than "Yea well I just have faith."

My wife said something about Witches the other day and I responded "Yep thank god you guys killed them all off in the dark ages, I wouldn't want those magical freaks around now." She was VERY confused by the comment but I think her "faith" shifted for a few minutes.

I answered your question...you apparently do not like the answer. There is observable evidence that has been spread over millions of years that supports micro evolution.

see previous post above

Who observed it?

Let's roll with that theory. Giddyup

Most truly religious people have faith because of a personal experience with there god not from something they read or heard from some man of faith. If you are lucky you may someday have a similar experience until then you will chide and diride those of faith.

I will move you from the past tense to the present tense. Who do you think observes the observable? Never mind answering as I will not continue in your game playing. You are dismissed.

You're going to have to, and there is nothing wrong with doing it. Your daughter is being told bullshit by her friend. If her friend was telling your daughter that blacks are an inferior race and women don't belong in the workforce, would you shit on her beliefs?

tell her that her friend is wrong and that she should of made a thread on GFY with a poll and the choice with the most votes would have obviously been correct.

So you find your wife scary? Just curious why you married someone who has such fundamentally different views than you?

So who observed the evidence for micro evolution millions of years ago?

That is actually complete and utter bullshit. Just a talking point off some moronic intelligent design website. Fact is that there is tons of evidence proving the theory of macroevolution. EVERY MAJOR SCIENTIFIC ORGANIZATION AGREES WITH THIS.

So lets see who to believe about this. Almost every fucking scientist in the world, or some idiots who believe in fairy tales.

Most people are religious because that is how they were raised.

So technically, if I tell you that the world was created by a giant alien who pooped our planet out and everything on it, it would be just as believable as evolution and intelligent design. I mean those others are just beliefs, as is my theory that the Earth was created by an alien bowel movement.

There isn't one aspect of biology that makes sense EXCEPT in light of evolution. Anyone saying otherwise is either arguing for argument sake or really has no understanding of science at all.

I'm not sure what you mean by gaps in "micro" evolution. I have personally observed with my eyes the evolution that took place in a petrie dish of bacteria. 10 min after putting a drop of sulfuric acid into the medium I saw several generations of bacteria evolve do the the change in their environment.

1. i dont understand how some dumbass's will fall to their knees for their entire life to believe and contribute to their religion that has no proof, no hard evidence of being creators of us

2. if we go to heaven, where do animals go when they die? and insects? do they have separate heavens? what draws the line on whether a being gets to go to human heaven or separate heaves, are there like 20 different types of heavens? or millions of different heavens depending on your species? (LOL)

3. evolution is proven to work, scientific fact, funny how 99.9% of retards on earth dont believe in facts :1orglaugh talk about a mass brainwashed society!

Stupid sheep need a shepherd, they need someone who tells them what to do with their lifes, might it be Hitler, Stalin, God or a big pink furry Elephant in the sky.

But as people get more and more educated religions are dying anyway, just a matter of time :thumbsup

ok, lets get this straight, I was born catholic, woman was not created by no ones rib, and there was no immaculate conception! you can have faith, and I think the best faith out there is acknowledging our ignorance and the unknown

I think the key here is to explain to your daughter that people are different and so are their beliefs about where we came from and where we are going. Children can grasp this in the context of nobody was actually there so they dont know for sure.

Give your daughter the freedom to believe whats she believes to be correct and the understanding that she can change her mind anytime. Exlain that as she gets older she will ask more questions and can make up her own mind and change her mind at any time.

also explain that as we as human beings are here longer we learn more about ourselves and our environment you can cite specific examples like we once thought the earth was flat.

It isn't so much important what she believes now as it is that she understands that she can make up her own mind without being ridiculed by the people she respects the most (her parents)

This lays the foundation for a healthy well adjusted life when even more complex issues like sexuality confront her

How about Jesus ? He spent most of his life and time clocking his own cock figuring out his 33rd inches of microeconomics......

I don't think apple trees were around during the times of Middle East...

I just don't understand why humans need symbols to live life...

Symbols are only perceptions fucking with your unconscious mind distorting latitude over your longitude thoughts.

I'm sorry but I disagree with every religion without correlations. I mean if you all could wake up every morning, I really doubt a "higher being" with "intelligence" had anything to do with the wake.

Religion only helps people to understand and cope with their own REMs...

Inspiration comes from your personal dreams. Not from higher calling.

All children should be allowed to express themselves without any explanation of doubts from our elder generations. Times change and the parents should definitely be aware of those changes. Religion is not so important when the children mentions about apple trees with no seeds...

Just ask her which makes more sense, a being in the sky that creates things whenever he/she/it wants, or life evolving into different forms over billions of years.

If that doesn't work, make her watch discovery channels all the time.

What's actually scary about this is the fact that people running for the presidency of the United States, aka Ruler of the World, believe that they were put here by a God.

They believe that Mary was in fact a virgin, and gave birth without having been fucked. They believe that this child was not hers, but God's. They believe that this child is going to give them a pass to a big fucking party in the sky when they die. They believe that there is a mean space daddy and the only way for them to get into his bitchin' ass party is to worship his son as the Savior of all Humanity.

Meanwhile the rest of us here on Earth have found out that the Earth is round, that there were dinosaurs here millions of years before us, and that pretty much everything that goes on around us can be described logically by numbers. We know that Gods do not throw lightning bolts, they do not cure diseases and that they don't stop one person from killing millions of people.

It's insane to think that there are billions of people on the planet Earth who still follow this bullshit and cannot think for themselves.

Religious people = dumb fuckers

Look, let your kid be exposed to all sorts of theories and beliefs, sooner or later she'd get exhausted listening to them all she would want no religion at all.

If you follow a religion or belief, its usually what you start to hope your children follow - but if they hear other wise, and it makes more sense to them - they have to make their own decissions what they think is right and wrong- how we got here. If she wants to believe in God rather than Evolution you have to let her choose. It should never be forced upon a person.

I feel the same way.

hahaha.. sneaky

I don't really understand why I "have to" accept macro evolution just because I'm not a christian. I also don't understand why everyone on this board assumes that everyone else is atheist and darwinist just because they sell porn.