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WWC · 10-21-2007, 11:18 PM

I dont get it.....Why is it that as soon as there is 1 fire in California, all of a sudden there are dozens ( far away from eachother ) of fires all over the huge state of California???

I think it a bunch of bullshit! Could this be terrorism? It can just be anyone...that sucks! How can this be happening? If it was an arson , what are they getting out of it themselves. I dont get people...so many lives are destroyed now....so many homes....dreams.....land......wishing them all luck!

After Shock Media · 10-21-2007, 11:32 PM

Please try to understand our weather patterns and how the move up the state or down it and effect a wide number of areas.

Everyone here knows that CA has been a giant tender box all summer long and it is a surprise we made it so close to winter without major fires.

As for arsonists, well yes we get those too. However they are far from terrorists so to speak and almost always are volunteer firefighters. You can almost place a large wager and always win on if it was a fire fighter or not who set a given fire.

stev0 · 10-21-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

However they are far from terrorists so to speak and almost always are volunteer firefighters. You can almost place a large wager and always win on if it was a fire fighter or not who set a given fire.

Huh?

I'd be interested to know where you picked up that info.

Big_Red · 10-21-2007, 11:51 PM

Santa Anna winds kicked in and when they do watch out.

baddog · 10-21-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

I dont get it.....Why is it that as soon as there is 1 fire in California, all of a sudden there are dozens ( far away from eachother ) of fires all over the huge state of California???

I think it a bunch of bullshit! Could this be terrorism? It can just be anyone...that sucks! How can this be happening? If it was an arson , what are they getting out of it themselves. I dont get people...so many lives are destroyed now....so many homes....dreams.....land......wishing them all luck!

Did you recently move here? I thought you had been here a while.

baddog · 10-21-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stev0

Huh?

I'd be interested to know where you picked up that info.

He watches a lot of made for tv movies.

After Shock Media · 10-21-2007, 11:55 PM

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He watches a lot of made for tv movies.

Baddog will you please have a damn stroke already.

Volunteer firefighters and or those who wanted to be firefighters are always getting busted for starting a vast number of arson related wildfires (not typically home fires).

Casa Nova · 10-21-2007, 11:57 PM

i noticed they come in bunched aswell. I just hope everyone is ok

baddog · 10-21-2007, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Baddog will you please have a damn stroke already.

Volunteer firefighters and or those who wanted to be firefighters are always getting busted for starting a vast number of arson related wildfires (not typically home fires).

Sorry, but I will outlive you.

As far as your allegations, how about a link with some proof?

After Shock Media · 10-22-2007, 12:01 AM

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Sorry, but I will outlive you.

As far as your allegations, how about a link with some proof?

Not sure why you feel you will outlive me, you must have some high hopes in cryotechnology.

Not about to attempt to dig for assorted proof when I have no need to as I have stated it all in the form of an opinion. However if one is so inclined they can look into assorted wildfire arson cases and see how many are started by those I said often start most of them. I do however pay attention to the news for at least northern CA and it is often the case.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:08 AM

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Not sure why you feel you will outlive me, you must have some high hopes in cryotechnology.

Great genes

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However they are far from terrorists so to speak and almost always are volunteer firefighters.

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Volunteer firefighters and or those who wanted to be firefighters are always getting busted for starting a vast number of arson related wildfires (not typically home fires).

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Not about to attempt to dig for assorted proof when I have no need to as I have stated it all in the form of an opinion.

Sorry, came across as fact more than opinion.

After Shock Media · 10-22-2007, 12:12 AM

Great genes do not help that much, not to mention your much older and you ride a motorcycle. Odds are way stacked against you.

One quick search on wildfire arsonist profilers. Quick quote of first link despite many more links.

But for investigators and homeowners alike, the most perverse category of wildfire arsonist are the firefighters themselves.

The most celebrated case was John Orr, an arson sleuth for the Glendale, Calif., fire department serving a life sentence for setting a 1984 hardware store blaze that killed four people.

He also was convicted of conducting a remarkable arson campaign that damaged 67 homes along with open land. He was arrested after penning a novel, "Points of Origin," depicting a firefighter who torched a hardware store and other businesses for sexual pleasure.

In 2002, firefighters were responsible for two of the nation's largest wildfires.

In Arizona, Leonard Gregg, a contract firefighter, was sent to a prison hospital for a psychiatric evaluation after being charged with setting the Rodeo fire in the state's rugged eastern mountains. At its worst, the inferno spread 50 miles wide; one local fire chief described it as "walking down the aisles of hell." Containing it cost public agencies $43 million.

Prosecutors said Gregg confessed to setting fire to dry grass in hopes of earning $8 an hour to extinguish the flames for the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

In Colorado, former Forest Service seasonal worker Terry Barton pleaded guilty to starting the Hayman Fire, which consumed 137,000 acres southwest of Denver and destroyed 133 homes.

After Shock Media · 10-22-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry, came across as fact more than opinion.

I see you left out my first post.

As for arsonists, well yes we get those too. However they are far from terrorists so to speak and almost always are volunteer firefighters. You can almost place a large wager and always win on if it was a fire fighter or not who set a given fire.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Great genes do not help that much, not to mention your much older and you ride a motorcycle. Odds are way stacked against you.

One quick search on wildfire arsonist profilers. Quick quote of first link despite many more links.

But for investigators and homeowners alike, the most perverse category of wildfire arsonist are the firefighters themselves.

The most celebrated case was John Orr, an arson sleuth for the Glendale, Calif., fire department serving a life sentence for setting a 1984 hardware store blaze that killed four people.

He also was convicted of conducting a remarkable arson campaign that damaged 67 homes along with open land. He was arrested after penning a novel, "Points of Origin," depicting a firefighter who torched a hardware store and other businesses for sexual pleasure.

In 2002, firefighters were responsible for two of the nation's largest wildfires.

In Arizona, Leonard Gregg, a contract firefighter, was sent to a prison hospital for a psychiatric evaluation after being charged with setting the Rodeo fire in the state's rugged eastern mountains. At its worst, the inferno spread 50 miles wide; one local fire chief described it as "walking down the aisles of hell." Containing it cost public agencies $43 million.

Prosecutors said Gregg confessed to setting fire to dry grass in hopes of earning $8 an hour to extinguish the flames for the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

In Colorado, former Forest Service seasonal worker Terry Barton pleaded guilty to starting the Hayman Fire, which consumed 137,000 acres southwest of Denver and destroyed 133 homes.

Oh, three? yeah, that's most of them alright.

After Shock Media · 10-22-2007, 12:23 AM

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Oh, three? yeah, that's most of them alright.

That was one quick search like I said, idiot.
They just happened to speak of a few of the most popular cases in which firefighters were the cause.
Please do pay attention, they have their own fucking FBI profile category. Understand what it takes to end up as a FBI profile category type? Oh yeah must be a rarity since they just oh so love to waste time investigating shit.

I am done with you old man. Others can gather their own information and form some of their own opinions, which then you may go ahead and look for small semantics to argue with them about.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

That was one quick search like I said, idiot.
They just happened to speak of a few of the most popular cases in which firefighters were the cause.
Please do pay attention, they have their own fucking FBI profile category. Understand what it takes to end up as a FBI profile category type? Oh yeah must be a rarity since they just oh so love to waste time investigating shit.

I am done with you old man. Others can gather their own information and form some of their own opinions, which then you may go ahead and look for small semantics to argue with them about.

Are there firefighters, police, housewives, priests, school kids that are arsonists? Yes.

Most of them? No

WWC · 10-22-2007, 12:56 AM

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Did you recently move here? I thought you had been here a while.

I have been in California for almost all my life....but still think its strange to see 1 fire starting in Malibu and then another in San Diego....do you know how far that is from one another....why all fires start at the time?

F-U-Jimmy · 10-22-2007, 01:17 AM

Its 1.15 am here and i just went outside The moon is red/yellow and hardly visible, Ash is dropping in my yard like fine snow and the air smells like smoke. And im 20 miles North of Downtown San Diego, on the beach, so the smoke is traveling a long way to get here. Its also dead quite not a sound of anything no wind no traffic noise nothing.

MikeSmoke · 10-22-2007, 01:47 AM

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I have been in California for almost all my life....but still think its strange to see 1 fire starting in Malibu and then another in San Diego....do you know how far that is from one another....why all fires start at the time?

Because the Santa Ana winds, low humidity and extremely dry weather affect all of Southern California. The Santa Ana started over the weekend - and so did the fires.

That's like asking how a huge hurricane can hit Florida and three days later hit South Carolina. It's not a suspicious event - it's how the weather patterns work.

directfiesta · 10-22-2007, 05:56 AM

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Because the Santa Ana winds, low humidity and extremely dry weather affect all of Southern California. The Santa Ana started over the weekend - and so did the fires.

That's like asking how a huge hurricane can hit Florida and three days later hit South Carolina. It's not a suspicious event - it's how the weather patterns work.

That is what I heard on the news too ... makes sense ..

What doesn't is that California is not more equiped to take care of this frequent problem...

A bit like if we didn't have snow plow in Montreal .... and were shocked that the streets are blocked ....

sumphatpimp · 10-22-2007, 06:10 AM

oh shit!
there goes the marijuana crops!

After Shock Media · 10-22-2007, 06:14 AM

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oh shit!
there goes the marijuana crops!

Most of the crops are grown several hundred miles north, or at very least in the mountain areas.

Not in the brush and valley areas.

baddog · 10-22-2007, 09:31 AM

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That is what I heard on the news too ... makes sense ..

What doesn't is that California is not more equiped to take care of this frequent problem...

A bit like if we didn't have snow plow in Montreal .... and were shocked that the streets are blocked ....

I think we (CA firefighters) handle it pretty well. It is not a matter of just going in and squirting some water on it. Most of the terrain is inaccessible, and to be honest, fires are a part of nature.

It is only when homes and businesses are involved that it becomes an issue.

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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Great genes do not help that much, not to mention your much older and you ride a motorcycle. Odds are way stacked against you. One quick search on wildfire arsonist profilers. Quick quote of first link despite many more links. But for investigators and homeowners alike, the most perverse category of wildfire arsonist are the firefighters themselves. The most celebrated case was John Orr, an arson sleuth for the Glendale, Calif., fire department serving a life sentence for setting a 1984 hardware store blaze that killed four people. He also was convicted of conducting a remarkable arson campaign that damaged 67 homes along with open land. He was arrested after penning a novel, "Points of Origin," depicting a firefighter who torched a hardware store and other businesses for sexual pleasure. In 2002, firefighters were responsible for two of the nation's largest wildfires. In Arizona, Leonard Gregg, a contract firefighter, was sent to a prison hospital for a psychiatric evaluation after being charged with setting the Rodeo fire in the state's rugged eastern mountains. At its worst, the inferno spread 50 miles wide; one local fire chief described it as "walking down the aisles of hell." Containing it cost public agencies $43 million. Prosecutors said Gregg confessed to setting fire to dry grass in hopes of earning $8 an hour to extinguish the flames for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. In Colorado, former Forest Service seasonal worker Terry Barton pleaded guilty to starting the Hayman Fire, which consumed 137,000 acres southwest of Denver and destroyed 133 homes. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

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