I agree 100% Jeff. No chance.

Only thing that caught me off guard was the exit console. Didn't think I would ever see the day that got signed off on.

Knowing Kim and ATK crew, i'd put my hand in fire for this.:2 cents:

Wow thats a bold statement! But yes I really don't believe they would intentionally shave anyone at all. There was a few mistakes on the tour which caused leaks but seems to be getting fixed so very positive. I just wish they would take away the exit popup.

Password posting dumb ass mother fucker.

All this just because of a pop console with different out bound referrals?
Fucking noobs confusing shit.
Thats not shaving.

I will take a look at ATK, thats what I get for assuming GFY Yellows have an ounce of intelligence.

ATK is a 100% honest program that runs on the principle of sacrificing short term profits for long term stability. Kim Nielsen is the head honcho there and he has more integrity in his little finger than whole groups of posters on GFY.

I haven't been posting much on GFY but I will always post when I see a program I have alot of respect for getting trashed like this. I can understand if you see a problem with a program, but calling them out for shaving in this manner is LAME and WRONG.

you are calling everyone who posted in this thread noobs??

just wondering

or just me for finding the issues??

just wondering ... I assume you bumped this thread to make some sort of point..... please make it!

isssue was discovered... program said they would fix issue...

thread was dead

then you bump the thread and call everyone who complained noobs??? I dont understand your logic

Yeah you are a noob.
What they were doing is not shaving.

I was NOT going to post in this thread because I didn't want to bump it, but since it is at the top...

With 100% certainty, I will say that any mistakes on ATK's part were inadvertent.

I would toss the keys to my house to Kim, with my 4 year old and 6 year old still inside, and go away for the weekend and never give it a second thought.


Just my 2 cents.

great :thumbsup

but you know instead of bumping this thread... you could have been repairing your hacked server and removing the virus from IALIEN.COM


but I guess you feel your time was better spent callin me a noob and bumping this thread lmao

oh yeah....


since I am a noob

you might want to remove this from your homepage if you ever expect the engines to take you serious...

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.... you are the fuckin noob dumb ass

sig too big

There ya go, thats the spirit, blaming the wrong guy again...
Thanks though, I will tell SplitInfinity they are getting there servers hacked and do the right thing to work with them to fix the problem.

See ya...

Noob.

no ... you are responsible for knowing your shit has been hacked

I have known your server was hacked since I saw in on IRC in freakin January

but I knew your were a piece of work and never informed you ( like I have other webmasters on GFY )

maybe if you stop and think before you atempt to do what you "think" is doing someone else a favor ... you should take a look in the mirror

seriously

Your designs are out dated and armature at best? seriously? who uses 1 large image file on their main index page in 2007 ? description text.. everything in one giant JPEG

You?re washed up ? time to move on? when was the last time someone gave you a project.. or substantial work? your skills are minimum.. and if you spent more time worrying about new ideas and maybe hoping you could learn to be creative? you instead decide to open a can of worms by attacking me

How dumb?

I advise you to step away from the computer and rethink your strategy.. maybe if you had a goal
I dunno

but yeah there is a channel on IRC with a backdoor to the server you are on running of a channel bot ... any random reboots lately:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

--I swear it seems any idiot can get in this biz

I am booked right now thanks:)

Did over 8K in design last month with 23 sites designed and 3 clients.
I think good business comes in when working with people professionally, even when I got a 5th of Jack Daniels in my hand. Thats when I am at my best.

People that use my site are silly, infact no one even goes to my site, my site is there simply for idiots like you thinking they can get a leg up talking shit about my design. Infact my site is nothing but a detractor, as shit fly's like yourself come to it thinking they can do what I do.

Infact I did business with no site for over 5 years! Wanna know why?
Because people come to me directly. Good designers are hard to find and I am good enough to fit that bill.

They know who I am, they know what I can do, unlike you.

So quit sniveling about my business and my lousy website that important people do not give a shit about.

Have a good day you genious.

are you asking for more ownage...?

one more post from you and the ownage continues in a major major way

I will say this one time... trying to save face is going to cost you dearly on this one ... in fact the damage will unrepairable

so are you still talking shit and want to get career ending owned.... or are you going to relax and leave me alone...

?

What island?

Less QQ and more PEW Pew Pussy server...

Be careful though ya might end up banned next...

out of repect for ATK im gonna let this thread die you unskilled fucktard

... but now you are on my shitlist

please stop bumping this thread

Yeah, you should know, you're very experienced at that. One would think you'd have learned when to keep your yap shut, but I guess learning isn't for everyone. :)

I'm glad this has been resolved. And thanks for posting those neked pics of yourself Stuart!

Well the popup was resolved it seems, but none of the other stuff yet.

What other stuff?

The leaks I mentioned, and the third biller Eurodebit option. Maybe using a third biller was explained and I missed it?

The traffic leaks on the tour I mentioned that give signups to the house, and the third biller Eurodebit option which gives no credit to webmasters.

I am not sure they pay on the eurodebit option. They have an option to track it though as they do pay on the mail ins etc.

I am sure they don't pay on it. Nor do they pay on the other traffic leaks on the tour which they have known about for well over a year.

No big deal, I'm over it. Just never thought I'd have to add ATK to that list.

I'm looking into the 3rd biller situation, as you can imagine we can't just flip a switch and suddenly have things changed and/or setup to be paying affiliates immediately. But we'll get a solution as soon as we can.

I'm still not sure what the other traffic leaks are either.

But rest assured we are working on completely revamping the entire program... sites, cash program... the works.

It's just not an over night job.

I can imagine it happening just about as fast as the third biller was added. Hard to believe that not one person over there gave a thought about how to pay affiliates on this biller. Incidentally, how long has this biller been in place?

They were brought up in this thread, and were very specific.
This thread is over 30 days old and apparently the only thing fixed was the ccbill popup. Your words sound sincere, and they very well may be, but the inaction is speaking much louder, at least to me.

The traffic leaks were promised to be fixed over a year ago and never were. I let it slide.... But adding another biller and thereby 'milking' sales from affiliates is just wrong. Putting the leaks and the extra biller together just put a bad taste in my mouth. If all this was done before you guys got there, fine, but it doesn't make it taste any better.

If you want to discuss it, hit me up and talk about it like a man - I'm available just about 24/7, and I've never gotten an email from you, ICQ msg, phone call - nothing. GFY is more/less a circus, and anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that, yet you decide to bump and old thread with a VERY misleading title.

Contact me as I suggested and I'll be more than happy to assist you and discuss this matter... but you bump this thread again and you'll just piss me off.

email '[email protected]'
ICQ 54403110
phone 941-870-2880

He was being sarcastic guys... its almost guaranteed that they click back (at least the first time), especially when they click through from an image thinking it was going to show a large one or a video clip sample.

What is it with you and insisting that people talk about it "like a man"? How about you talk about it like a man and just reply here? I mean, you guys have nothing to hide, so what's the problem? He, and others, have posted pertinent concerns, I'm pretty sure addressing public things in public will make you look a lot better than appearing to want to sweep things under the rug by asking people to contact you in private.

We definitely don't want anything swept under the rug. I'd rather hear about these things than not, so that I know what to fix.

We would just rather that people message us and tell us and not make a big deal about it... I'm sure every program has the same wish when such things hit gfy :winkwink:

Anyway, there was more fixed than just the popup, and more stuff is being fixed. That eurobiller doesn't seem to have an affiliate option that we can take advantage of so we're looking at making changes but obviously don't want to lose the option entirely.

At the same time, we're all stretched very thin at a lot of angles but rest assured that we are working at it. If some people simply can't wait to see those changes, we'll understand. But we'd rather ask that you be patient.

See, that wasn't so hard, was it? :winkwink:

bump like a man

Being condescending is a nice touch. As far as pissing you off... With a post like that, how can you not expect a response?

You know that any other sponsor that would have added a third biller that doesn't give credit to the affiliates would have been roasted on GFY long ago. Why should you be any different? It's a valid issue.

I have been in contact with ATK about the first of these issues, nothing was done. The other issues were brought up in this thread, so there is no need for contact.

In case you missed it, I said this just a few posts ago, but some responses sparked more responses...

Ok tough guy. :321GFY

Oh no, we're gonna piss off people with the leaky tours that we were sending traffic to. How dare we make them mad, they might not accept our traffic any longer :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Where oh where will we ever send our traffic to monetize it now that we've pissed ATK off? I can't think of anyone else who will pay us for it :helpme

This belongs on the front page

I concur. :thumbsup

We're in the process of changing that billing option it's just taken longer than planned. Once it's done, that option will be removed from any join page. Until then you can wait patiently or keep bumping this thread claiming we shave.

I'm not avoiding or sweeping anything under the rug. I just don't want to give any credence to the trolls. It's my right to ask people to contact me personally to discuss business, and if they choose not to do so then so be it. Don't suggest that by my deciding I'd rather deal with people one-on-one as opposed to a shady GFY thread somehow we/I'm guilty of trying to cover something up.