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DamageX 10-02-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13176453)
It's why I have the previous version instead of the current version, because I won't just download it and say "fuck them". But at the same time, they aren't getting my money for the moment because they are pricing themselves out of the market to make up for all the sales lost to piracy, downloading, and those "$29.95 Adobe Suite" spam mails.

Timbo, you need to tap your moral compass a bit, It's sticking. Take a list of all of the videos on the pages you ads appear on. At the next show, walk up to each of them and explain to owners of those videos personally why you are using their stolen content to make money.

If you can't see yourself doing it, then you know it isn't right.

Yeah, like that's gonna happen... :(

fris 10-02-2007 01:02 PM

i hear a thumbzilla ban

»Rob Content« 10-02-2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13176498)
Does this mean we won't see them on thumbzilla, and any of your other traffic sites?


Isn't it also nice that Phoenix thinks your traffic is useless?

page 2 should have this.. what do you think shap?

»Rob Content« 10-02-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 13175108)
You'd be surprised...
Torrents can be excruciatingly slow sometimes

For everyone getting moral, let me ask this: how many of you have paid for the copy of photoshop sitting on your computer?

I own my copy of photoshop, can you take the links down now please? thanks

Matt Collins 10-02-2007 01:30 PM

Content theft is one of the biggest threats to our business and it is incumbent for all of us to work to fight this common enemy.

Let's face it, if surfers can get all of Lightspeed's member's areas from a torrent site, then my RevShare Hosting webmasters have nothing to sell. While I know Steve fights for his rights daily, it is really frustrating to see affiliate programs supporting the very thing that threatens our livelihood.

The good news is that the movie, music and software people are fighting just as hard as we are so its a common cause. Again though, we all should do our part. Its damn hard to support Python when they are threatening my livelihood.

Matt

Kram 10-02-2007 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0 (Post 13172581)

You my friend are an idiot ...

Shap 10-02-2007 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13176498)
Does this mean we won't see them on thumbzilla, and any of your other traffic sites?


Isn't it also nice that Phoenix thinks your traffic is useless?

Absolutely!

Shap 10-02-2007 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fris (Post 13176576)
i hear a thumbzilla ban

More traffic for you :thumbsup

DamageX 10-02-2007 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13176754)
Absolutely!

You just brought a tear to my eye...

»Rob Content« 10-02-2007 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13176754)
Absolutely!

I look forward to doing some business with you :)

Shap 10-02-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13176812)
I look forward to doing some business with you :)

It's going to take some time to clear everything out however I'm truly fed up of this shit and it's going to get done.

Aussie Rebel 10-02-2007 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13176846)
It's going to take some time to clear everything out however I'm truly fed up of this shit and it's going to get done.

:thumbsup

Klen 10-02-2007 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Collins (Post 13176717)
Content theft is one of the biggest threats to our business and it is incumbent for all of us to work to fight this common enemy.

Let's face it, if surfers can get all of Lightspeed's member's areas from a torrent site, then my RevShare Hosting webmasters have nothing to sell. While I know Steve fights for his rights daily, it is really frustrating to see affiliate programs supporting the very thing that threatens our livelihood.

The good news is that the movie, music and software people are fighting just as hard as we are so its a common cause. Again though, we all should do our part. Its damn hard to support Python when they are threatening my livelihood.

Matt

Is that mean dollarpimp it will not be supported anymore by revsharehosting?Since dollarpimp is have same owner as python.

Matt Collins 10-02-2007 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13177119)
Is that mean dollarpimp it will not be supported anymore by revsharehosting?Since dollarpimp is have same owner as python.


I can't say that I've ever made a sponsor decision based on where that particular sponsor buys their ads. I don't want to dodge your question as it's really very fair and something I will have to give some real thought about.

I have, on the other hand, rejected affiliate programs that are based on selling memberships to stolen content sites and I will continue to do so. I felt that was an easy decision to make and feel very strongly on that point.

Anyway, good question...

Matt

Timbo 10-02-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13174529)
Exactly what I expected. Unbelievable how many pieces of shit are in our industry.

It really sucks to be Timbo. The only people he can get to promote his crap are content thieves. It must suck to try and be a big baller yet not have enough money to get real affiliates or produce your own content.

:1orglaugh
That was good Shap, thanks. Very entertaining.
Now for a clue. You know jack shit. That is all. :thumbsup

Oh btw, everybody else b sure to sign to APM and get paid $70 per join this Friday!

c-lo 10-02-2007 03:49 PM

As an APM affiliate, I would be most grateful if you guys would discontinue funding thieves.

Thanks.

Papillon 10-02-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 13173696)
I don't consider it weak. As far as content goes, we do our part. We support content providers, by buying shitloads of their product. We don't shoot our own. Never have. I'll be back tomorrow. Still waiting to hear from our webmasters.

Holy fuck what a pathetic mother fucker. Heres a response from a webmaster that joined your program the first week of its inception. Im pulling all your links and I hope you rot in hell. :321GFY

SykkBoy 10-02-2007 03:59 PM

If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"

Klen 10-02-2007 04:06 PM

I remember when i inform shaft(phyton) about similar thread like this one he only said how bad is and that's it.No response from him in that thread.

Papillon 10-02-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 13177518)
If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"

I am really surprised to hear you guys respond like this. All I can say is karma is a real bitch dude and what goes around comes around. Enjoy.

SykkBoy 10-02-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Papillon (Post 13177577)
I am really surprised to hear you guys respond like this. All I can say is karma is a real bitch dude and what goes around comes around. Enjoy.

What? A content provider, in this thread bitching, is hitting me up to buy content from him. If I buy content from him, isn't he taking "dirty money"? Wouldn't he be indirectly profiting from something he finds morally wrong?

Papillon 10-02-2007 04:44 PM

You need a coffee or something dude your brain is not working today. I have absolutely no doubt some scumbag content provider is hitting you up to sell you content. This industry is full of them.

The point is this. You are fucking your webmasters and the industry by supporting this sort of criminal activity. Why the fuck would you support this kind of shit? Just because its not your content doesn't make it right. You are supporting thieves man.

Anyways if you need it explained to you you are either a fucking idiot or completely aware of what you are doing and you simply dont give a fuck. I suspect its the later which is why you will find anyone with any sort of a backbone wont tolerate this blatant bullshit. I sure as hell won't be.

Links get pulled today never to be promoted again.

DS250 10-02-2007 04:50 PM

I admit I usually only get on here to flame people and stir up shit but i am going to be serious here for a second. I still push a large amount of what you would call legitimate traffic and I have since 2000 or so. I have been ripped off by countless payment processors and affiliate programs for tens of thousands of dollars. Most of you would stab each other in the back for a buck so you should save your outrage because it is useless. The adult internet industry didn't get it's shitty reputation undeservedly. Whether or not you like it the tube torrent and file sharing sites aren't going anywhere. You can either choose to find a way to profit off it or you will end up like all of the big tgp sites with their traffic and sales numbers taking a fucking nose dive. You might succeed in hurting one or two but 10 more will pop up in their place. You are sticking your finger in the leaking hole of a dam that is about to crumble.

Papillon 10-02-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 13177709)
I admit I usually only get on here to flame people and stir up shit but i am going to be serious here for a second. I still push a large amount of what you would call legitimate traffic and I have since 2000 or so. I have been ripped off by countless payment processors and affiliate programs for tens of thousands of dollars. Most of you would stab each other in the back for a buck so you should save your outrage because it is useless. The adult internet industry didn't get it's shitty reputation undeservedly. Whether or not you like it the tube torrent and file sharing sites aren't going anywhere. You can either choose to find a way to profit off it or you will end up like all of the big tgp sites with their traffic and sales numbers taking a fucking nose dive. You might succeed in hurting one or two but 10 more will pop up in their place. You are sticking your finger in the leaking hole of a dam that is about to crumble.

I def hear ya there but I dont have to be a part of it. If a sponsor is going to announce they support content theft then I am not going to send them my traffic. Simple.

DS250 10-02-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Papillon (Post 13177754)
I def hear ya there but I dont have to be a part of it. If a sponsor is going to announce they support content theft then I am not going to send them my traffic. Simple.

You might feel that way but you are only hurting yourself. The traffic they receive from these sites is far more than what they might lose from a few pissed off affiliates that decide to pull links and most of the affiliates actually won't. And if you don't believe torrent tube file sharing traffic is profitable you are dead wrong.

Aussie Rebel 10-02-2007 06:12 PM

Still nothing from python?

KrisKross 10-02-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 13175108)
You'd be surprised...
Torrents can be excruciatingly slow sometimes

For everyone getting moral, let me ask this: how many of you have paid for the copy of photoshop sitting on your computer?

I don't use Photoshop, but I did pay for the copy of Paint Shop Pro on my PC.

Regardless, others' hypocrisy (or lack thereof) doesn't justify your program's support of content theft.

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2 (Post 13177518)
If we're so bad, why are content providers hitting me up on ICQ to sell me content?

If you have a moral problem with this, are you saying it's still ok to take money from us? You'll complain about it on message boards and then say "hey, when are you going to buy some content from me?"

Sykk, you're not this dense. Stop being someone else's puppet.

Content providers make money on a one time deal. Once they've sold their package, it makes no difference who downloads their content and how it gets downloaded.

And again, their hypocrisy still doesn't justify your program's support of content theft.

Seriously, you're really not this dumb. Stop it.

Aussie Rebel 10-02-2007 09:43 PM

Bump so python see's this

eroswebmaster 10-03-2007 12:28 AM

LOL I should open up a torrent site just for shits and giggles. The furor it creates on this board is downright funny.

Corona 10-03-2007 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 13177475)
:

Oh btw, everybody else b sure to sign to APM and get paid $70 per join this Friday!

When a sponsor shows a lack of ethics in one area why should I trust them not to fuck me over as well?

Rui 10-03-2007 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13173027)
Did you even bother contacting the sponsors to notify them before making this thread? Chances are they don't even know about these sites.
WG

Yeah that must be it! :anon

Rui 10-03-2007 02:49 AM

SykkBoy2 - So I assume you endorse the use of all your sites content for promotion of content theft and push other programs, nice!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 02:50 AM

For some reason ya guys think that companies that are promoted on Places like Web boards, and video sites some how sponsor content theft.

I still do not get this concept. If you see content that is yours being stolen its on you to recoup on the matter, hell maybe provide more content to those places, provide for them to generate sales to your program verses the ones smart enough to know where the traffic is going these days. Authorise them to use content you allow them to and gain an affiliate.


Ya people will never ever beat content theft, the only way around this is to be sure to have a link on sites that appearently take content, Email them ask em to become and affilaite and give them shit to promote you.

Brand all your content.

Let me repeat...

None of you will ever ever ever beat content theft. It's a fact.
The sooner it is realised maybe the sooner you can find ways to benefit from it.

I do not engage in Content theft to promote, but the fucken genie is out of the lamp and has been on the loose for quite sometime.

Adapt.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:02 AM

I remember people whinning about TGP's a long time ago, supposedly TGP's were the deathnail of the industry, and I guess to a Degree it was, this industry is constantly dieing a little every day.

However it does not mean things can not be worked with or figured out.

I will go a little bit further int he history of Destructive TGP's.

TGP's were said to utilise stolen content, redivert traffic, shave one another, use hit bots and all manor of scummy shit. They didnt kill the industry it hurt but it didnt kill it. Another fact is this industry is not going to die because of fucking Video Sites, or Web boards that post stolen content.

News groups were out before any of this shit was and people were able to to download all manor of content they wanted from News Groups, come to think of it, people still do!

Why not wage a war against News groups? they been around longer than video sites and frankly better than video sites, and web boards.

Why not go all the way to the top of the matter and knock off Usenet? Odd's are they got more stolen content than anyone running some stupid video sites.

Stolen content is not right but it is a fact, and I believe the generation of video sites is no different than what TGP's were back in the day when everyone talked mad shit about them comming into the scene.

TGP's still do the scummy shit since 1996 and even worse. the video sites are just a step faster than TGP's. It's the next generation for free entertainment.

Work with it because really you got no choice.

Some people bucked TGP's and they lost money because of it.
Sure they slammed the guys running TGP's, but after while they figured out how to make money with them. TGP webmasters were the scum of the earth at one time....

Just like VIdeo site guys are today, but i can guarantee you they will be the new winners and heroes tomarrow.

fuckingfuck 10-03-2007 03:05 AM

Adapt?

How? By creating an even bigger torrent site with more free full films to download?

That's the most idiotic thing people keep writing.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:11 AM

Adn lastly...

Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fuckingfuck (Post 13179523)
Adapt?

How? By creating an even bigger torrent site with more free full films to download?

That's the most idiotic thing people keep writing.

If you are to stupid to not be able to figure out how after what I said above you might want to just hit up Wendy's tomarrow.

Cuz you are not cut out for this game.

Aussie Rebel 10-03-2007 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13179537)
Adn lastly...

Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.

Can you show me one TGP in the past that offered full site rips?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 13179549)
Can you show me one TGP in the past that offered full site rips?

Why a TGP?

Go check USENET.
Find almost any porn ya want or mainstream movie.
I bet one can find many TGP's that utilise stolen content still and even illegal content.

lukemason 10-03-2007 03:23 AM

I will make my stance known I am for the thread starter and agents any Co.
trying to Profit off the Backs of others Threw the Way of Stolen Content
this is just plane wrong as I sed before with AVN-Ad's/AdBright I will say it
here Cut this Shit out your only destroying the Industry that some of US
Love .

Aussie Rebel 10-03-2007 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13179565)
Why a TGP?

Go check USENET.
Find almost any porn ya want or mainstream movie.
I bet one can find many TGP's that utilise stolen content still and even illegal content.

Why TGP? Because thats what you were referring to in your other posts, And yes I agree there are tons of tgp's out there with stolen content, but none with full site rips like torrent sites have. Usenet has always been huge source for stolen content and is another problem our industry has to deal with unfortunately

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:32 AM

Companies like Mega Erotic are thriving, as is places like you porn.
Figure out why.
Here I will tell you. The Full rip video sites, they have no income and the ones that actively steal are a faulty business model. One or two silly ad's can not hold up to the downloaded traffic.
Sure they might pop up but eventually a working business model will resolve itself and that business model is to see who puts up content and pays.
Those that put up content stand to win, while the ones that don't only stand to lose. Just like TGP's.

Putting up content content that pays is the incentive for video sites to begin regulating. There will be more failures in the attempt but the long lasting ones are the ones that cut deal's with participating sponsors that send in content with banners everywhere.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-03-2007 03:38 AM

Lastly the internet is past the archive age, it has become the here and now age. If the shit is old and jaded...
Even if the whole fucking site is given out for free.
No one wants it anyways.

Real paying customers want fresh and new and the now...

Papillon 10-03-2007 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 13177877)
You might feel that way but you are only hurting yourself. The traffic they receive from these sites is far more than what they might lose from a few pissed off affiliates that decide to pull links and most of the affiliates actually won't. And if you don't believe torrent tube file sharing traffic is profitable you are dead wrong.

yuo have missed the point on every level

please go back to sleep

Papillon 10-03-2007 04:47 AM

AlienQ - quiet possibly the dumbest mother fucker ever to hit this board.

Papillon 10-03-2007 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13179484)
I still do not get this concept. If you see content that is yours being stolen its on you to recoup on the matter, hell maybe provide more content to those places, provide for them to generate sales to your program verses the ones smart enough to know where the traffic is going these days. Authorise them to use content you allow them to and gain an affiliate.

Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

Wow thats a genius at work right there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DamageX 10-03-2007 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Papillon (Post 13179748)
Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

Wow thats a genius at work right there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Why do you think he's broke? :)

u-Bob 10-03-2007 05:38 AM

<--- taking notes :)

Rui 10-03-2007 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Papillon (Post 13179748)
Let the record show that AlienQ suggests the way to beat torrent sites is to provide them with more content.

Wow thats a genius at work right there :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/profil...ignore&u=18793

Its no even worth it to spend your time reading his posts :winkwink::thumbsup

Shap 10-03-2007 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13179537)
Adn lastly...

Shap, even you were a TGP webmaster back in the day and still to this day.
Albeit a good one that was and still fair but still...

You are one of the guys that forced other companies to give you content for free and you took it and used it to make a buck.
Some people would not go to promote on TGP's and you know and I know they are the guys that lost money while you made deals with companies and webmaster's that submitted content and ended up pulling out ahead.

Sure it was shitty then but it is still no different than today.

There is a huge difference between a tgp that displays content of a site and then sends the surfer directly to that site and a site like tnaflix that show my content and sends them to python. With your experience you should get that i would hope.


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