Why A+ Students End Up Working For C+ Students. - GoFuckYourself.com

JackJones75 · 09-28-2007, 01:34 PM

Read a good article about this in Maclean's magazine (Canada).

Think it's true?

headless ghost · 09-28-2007, 01:36 PM

you didn't post the article or at least a link?
you weren't an A student.

GrouchyAdmin · 09-28-2007, 01:37 PM

Being that I have nothing but a sentence to base an opinion on: Sure, why not.

crockett · 09-28-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Don

Read a good article about this in Maclean's magazine (Canada).

Think it's true?

You must be a D student..

GrouchyAdmin · 09-28-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You must be a D student..

Does that mean he gets to have A++ students working for him?

aico · 09-28-2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by headless ghost

you didn't post the article or at least a link?
you weren't an A student.

Or, some A student will look for it and post it for him, thus proving his point.

StuartD · 09-28-2007, 01:40 PM

I always thought it was the bullies who end up working for the nerds....

PR_Dave · 09-28-2007, 01:41 PM

I was a C student

CheneyRumsfeld · 09-28-2007, 01:42 PM

lots of self ownage going on today.
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maybe because it is friday

JackJones75 · 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM

here's the article:

http://www.macleans.ca/education/pos..._109139&page=1

xNetworx · 09-28-2007, 01:45 PM

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fuzzylogic · 09-28-2007, 01:55 PM

schools have become beacons of conformity. sure, get good grades, follow the rules, and practice rote memorization one can end up a doctor or engineer. but those who "change the world" are those to take a step away from the box. and school is no longer a place for these minds.

ztik · 09-28-2007, 02:00 PM

Well schools train you to work for other people. Of course there there are exceptions, but for the most part people who are busting their ass, to get that A. Want to get the best job, with the best job security. People who are just coasting through, usually have other things on their mind. This could either be creating their own business / company or just hobo'ing it up and smoking weed all day.

shekinah · 09-28-2007, 04:01 PM

Because A students only use their heads for thinking, they do not take actions.

AK · 09-28-2007, 04:14 PM

A Student is less than two students - LOL

Karma Kills · 09-28-2007, 04:20 PM

Grades are a total crock.

College is a money scam hoax.

NinjaSteve · 09-28-2007, 04:20 PM

School train people to be employees. The ones that have the best grades usually are good employees. The ones with lower grades tend to either suck at life or become entrepreneurs. Working for a "C student" doesn't mean you manager is a C student, it means the owner of the company was a C student. If you're a C student and you suck at life you'll be working under an A student even though a C student owns the company.

StuartD · 09-28-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shekinah

Because A students only use their heads for thinking

What suckers!

NinjaSteve · 09-28-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Karma Kills

Grades are a total crock.

College is a money scam hoax.

This isn't true. Even if you don't use your college degree in everyday life the education is priceless. Education expands your mind and skills. You should never stop educating yourself. Unless you suck at life, then you should just die.

NinjaSteve · 09-28-2007, 04:27 PM

You as in 'a person' not you personally.

tony286 · 09-28-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

This isn't true. Even if you don't use your college degree in everyday life the education is priceless. Education expands your mind and skills. You should never stop educating yourself. Unless you suck at life, then you should just die.

I agree with you when you stop learning you start dying.

yahoo-xxx-girls.com · 09-28-2007, 04:29 PM

Education at work... ^^

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Achmed · 09-28-2007, 04:30 PM

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D · 09-28-2007, 04:30 PM

Well... maybe that makes sense...

they do say that the it's a good practice to hire people smarter than yourself...

And that gives a C student a much wider pool of people to hire from.

Keep in mind, it seems the article's talking about High School grades, specifically.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-28-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

This isn't true. Even if you don't use your college degree in everyday life the education is priceless. Education expands your mind and skills. You should never stop educating yourself. Unless you suck at life, then you should just die.

tell that to all the well known top rich people who happen to have dropped out of college...

NinjaSteve · 09-28-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox

tell that to all the well known top rich people who happen to have dropped out of college...

Those people didn't get rich instantly. And even if they dropped out of college I bet they educated themselves some other way. Books, seminars, research, things like this.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-28-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve

Those people didn't get rich instantly. And even if they dropped out of college I bet they educated themselves some other way. Books, seminars, research, things like this.

yeah, school is bullshit, i learn more watching history/discover/tlc channel then i ever did in school

u-Bob · 09-28-2007, 04:47 PM

makes sense; the school system doesn't reward creativity, the ability to think etc....

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frostyimpressions · 09-28-2007, 06:07 PM

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i like falafel and hummus

GrouchyAdmin · 09-28-2007, 06:16 PM

Personally, I think that people who have more schooling are quite a bit more analytical, and are not as eager, or willing to take risks. That's how they end up in shitty jobs, instead of working for themselves.

warlock5 · 09-28-2007, 06:44 PM

C+ students? You have to go to school to get grades.

I am a college drop out and my employees have college degrees. Nothing wrong with either side, its just about the individual. The worst you can do is try to be the person that you are not.

BOSS1 · 09-28-2007, 06:52 PM

there is them and there is donald trump who got As......
Different strokes for different folks..

kane · 09-28-2007, 06:57 PM

I have seen this in action. I used to work for a big tech company. I worked in the engineering and prototype division where we developed all of the new products that they company would be manufacturing in the coming years. Some of the people I worked with were some of the smartest people I have ever known. They have forgotten more about engineering than I could ever know. But one thing all of the groups within that divsion had in common was that the managers weren't engineers. Why? Well, it seems that people who are focused on the the intellectual aspects of the job weren't good at managing people. They just wanted to do their job and be challenged day in and day out. They didn't want to worry about schedules and time sheets and bookkeeping and all that type of stuff. The division I worked in was the only place in the company that had no time cards or time sheets because none of the engineers ever remembered to use them.

To own a business you have to be good at what you do, but you also have to be strong at the social aspect of it so you can get jobs and market your business. You also have to be good at managing people. The guy who has his nose to the books and gets straight A's probably doesn't have the personality to do that.

Harrison Richard · 09-28-2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Don

Read a good article about this in Maclean's magazine (Canada).

Think it's true?

The problem here is that being a C+ student is no more a predictor of success than being an A student is not a predictor of success.

This article is written to help parents of average kids to cope with their kids' "averageness."

Harrison Richard · 09-28-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

I have seen this in action. I used to work for a big tech company. I worked in the engineering and prototype division where we developed all of the new products that they company would be manufacturing in the coming years. Some of the people I worked with were some of the smartest people I have ever known. They have forgotten more about engineering than I could ever know. But one thing all of the groups within that divsion had in common was that the managers weren't engineers. Why? Well, it seems that people who are focused on the the intellectual aspects of the job weren't good at managing people. They just wanted to do their job and be challenged day in and day out. They didn't want to worry about schedules and time sheets and bookkeeping and all that type of stuff. The division I worked in was the only place in the company that had no time cards or time sheets because none of the engineers ever remembered to use them.

To own a business you have to be good at what you do, but you also have to be strong at the social aspect of it so you can get jobs and market your business. You also have to be good at managing people. The guy who has his nose to the books and gets straight A's probably doesn't have the personality to do that.

This take assumes that managers are not as smart as engineers because they are not adept at differential equations and linear algebra. False! MBAs are every bit as smart as engineers, they are just trained and comfortable with a different set of subjects, skills, and motivators.

It's a typical techie attitude to think that someone is not smart because they are either untrained, uninterested, or just not great with tech stuff.

Harrison Richard · 09-28-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic

schools have become beacons of conformity. sure, get good grades, follow the rules, and practice rote memorization one can end up a doctor or engineer. but those who "change the world" are those to take a step away from the box. and school is no longer a place for these minds.

Completely false. Rote memorization does not produce doctors. Get your head out of your ass. This is an asinine attempt to justify your pre-adolescent rage or your post-adolescent stale idealism.

09-28-2007, 07:14 PM

General schooling definitely does not teach, develop or encourage individual out-of-the-box thinking. It's mostly all about brainless memorization and applying preset concepts and ideas. As it was already mentioned, schools create good employees.

kane · 09-28-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Harrison Richard

This take assumes that managers are not as smart as engineers because they are not adept at differential equations and linear algebra. False! MBAs are every bit as smart as engineers, they are just trained and comfortable with a different set of subjects, skills, and motivators.

It's a typical techie attitude to think that someone is not smart because they are either untrained, uninterested, or just not great with tech stuff.

I never said the managers were not smart. I simply said the managers were not engineers and that, in this companies opinion (and mine as well), most engineers don't make good managers so they hire people with different skills to manage the engineers.

The point of my post is that these engineers I worked with were all the A+ nose to the books type of people while, in my experience, many managers were not. I'm not slamming on anyone, I'm just saying that people who focus less on getting great grades tend to be people who are a little more social and those types of people are often the kinds of people that succeed at running a business because they don't stay focused on a single task and are better at dealing with interpersonal relationships.

kane · 09-28-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

General schooling definitely does not teach, develop or encourage individual out-of-the-box thinking. It's mostly all about brainless memorization and applying preset concepts and ideas. As it was already mentioned, schools create good employees.

That is true. I remember at least half of my classes in high school were simply us reading a chapter in the book, taking notes on it and then taking a test on it. I'm sure I learned things, but mostly I just memorized and retained knowledge until I took the test. The classes that I really learned a lot in were the ones where we had a lot of discussion and the teacher really went into the material in depth.

09-28-2007, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That is true. I remember at least half of my classes in high school were simply us reading a chapter in the book, taking notes on it and then taking a test on it. I'm sure I learned things, but mostly I just memorized and retained knowledge until I took the test. The classes that I really learned a lot in were the ones where we had a lot of discussion and the teacher really went into the material in depth.

Actually, what makes the US school system so much worse in the sense that it doesn't encourage individuals to think independently are multiple-choice tests. Such crap and it's used all the way through college.

kane · 09-28-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

Actually, what makes the US school system so much worse in the sense that it doesn't encourage individuals to think independently are multiple-choice tests. Such crap and it's used all the way through college.

Here is a short article about a school microsoft actually financed. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2072454.shtml

There are not books or chalkboards or anything like that. Every kid has a laptop and everything is done on it. The cool thing, which is only touched on in the article, is how they integrate classes. You learn things and then apply what you learned in other subjects. So you learn math, then you learn how to apply that math in a science class. There are no regular classes, they almost teach freeform.

Here is microsofts page on it.
http://www.microsoft.com/education/schooloffuture.mspx

I think schools like this would actually help elevate our dying educational system.

09-28-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Here is a short article about a school microsoft actually financed. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2072454.shtml

There are not books or chalkboards or anything like that. Every kid has a laptop and everything is done on it. The cool thing, which is only touched on in the article, is how they integrate classes. You learn things and then apply what you learned in other subjects. So you learn math, then you learn how to apply that math in a science class. There are no regular classes, they almost teach freeform.

Here is microsofts page on it.
http://www.microsoft.com/education/schooloffuture.mspx

I think schools like this would actually help elevate our dying educational system.

Maybe if this country didn't spend billions in senseless wars and invested them into education instead...

kane · 09-28-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

Maybe if this country didn't spend billions in senseless wars and invested them into education instead...

That would be a very good start.

qxm · 09-28-2007, 08:22 PM

I've met several C- guys who were only good at talking shit, talk, talk.....all freaking day long.......they landed a job as mortgage brokers and are now managing a whole bunch of Graduates with BA, MBAs in finance ........ gO figure....

One thing which they have that none of the A+ graduates have is the guts to sell ice to an eskimo..... yeap, guts.....and start bulldoggin' people ;)

Drake · 09-28-2007, 08:33 PM

As somebody mentioned earlier, grades aren't a good predictor of financial success in life. But it does effect the type of occupations people can choose. The A+ lab rat genius working on finding medical cures or mathmetician figuring out new mathematical models is usually not wealthy, but the C+ sociable person who can make real estate deals can be a multi-millionaire. That being said, there is a correlation between higher education and increased income because higher education opens doors to better paying occupations like doctors, lawyers, accountants etc. In industries, it opens doors to higher management levels, where inbuilt hiearchy, and not necessarily skill are most important.

Most A+ and C+ students aren't millionaires, but there are millionaires from both groups. It all comes down to the individual. There are also many more C+ students than A+ students, and the C+ millionaire makes for a sweeter story. Regardless, it's not a huge surprise that somebody who is really creative or driven may do poorly in school, because they don't care for it, to become successful.

Another thing to note is that many of the C+ students cited in the article who became huge successes were students in the 1960's and prior. This was a time when getting into business and the cost of living was very different than today. Those very same successful business owners want their employees to have credentials up the ass before they'll hire them.

Obviously personal goals play a lot into it as well. I think it's in the movie Citizen Kane where the guy says something like "you can make a lot of money, if all that you want to do in life, is make money." It's not quite that easy in real life, but you get the gist of the message.

BOSS1 · 09-28-2007, 08:54 PM

Success is not always measured with money.

woj · 09-29-2007, 12:00 AM

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Success is not always measured with money.

DatingGold · 09-29-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by headless ghost

you didn't post the article or at least a link?
you weren't an A student.

D · 09-29-2007, 01:08 AM

This semester I'm taking a course in object-oriented programming, so am literally, both a C+/C++ student _and_ an A student.

Best of both worlds.

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ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Well schools train you to work for other people. Of course there there are exceptions, but for the most part people who are busting their ass, to get that A. Want to get the best job, with the best job security. People who are just coasting through, usually have other things on their mind. This could either be creating their own business / company or just hobo'ing it up and smoking weed all day. __________________ .

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NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	School train people to be employees. The ones that have the best grades usually are good employees. The ones with lower grades tend to either suck at life or become entrepreneurs. Working for a "C student" doesn't mean you manager is a C student, it means the owner of the company was a C student. If you're a C student and you suck at life you'll be working under an A student even though a C student owns the company. __________________ ...

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warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	C+ students? You have to go to school to get grades. I am a college drop out and my employees have college degrees. Nothing wrong with either side, its just about the individual. The worst you can do is try to be the person that you are not.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I have seen this in action. I used to work for a big tech company. I worked in the engineering and prototype division where we developed all of the new products that they company would be manufacturing in the coming years. Some of the people I worked with were some of the smartest people I have ever known. They have forgotten more about engineering than I could ever know. But one thing all of the groups within that divsion had in common was that the managers weren't engineers. Why? Well, it seems that people who are focused on the the intellectual aspects of the job weren't good at managing people. They just wanted to do their job and be challenged day in and day out. They didn't want to worry about schedules and time sheets and bookkeeping and all that type of stuff. The division I worked in was the only place in the company that had no time cards or time sheets because none of the engineers ever remembered to use them. To own a business you have to be good at what you do, but you also have to be strong at the social aspect of it so you can get jobs and market your business. You also have to be good at managing people. The guy who has his nose to the books and gets straight A's probably doesn't have the personality to do that.

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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	General schooling definitely does not teach, develop or encourage individual out-of-the-box thinking. It's mostly all about brainless memorization and applying preset concepts and ideas. As it was already mentioned, schools create good employees.

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qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	I've met several C- guys who were only good at talking shit, talk, talk.....all freaking day long.......they landed a job as mortgage brokers and are now managing a whole bunch of Graduates with BA, MBAs in finance ........ gO figure.... One thing which they have that none of the A+ graduates have is the guts to sell ice to an eskimo..... yeap, guts.....and start bulldoggin' people ;) __________________ ICQ: 266990876 Last edited by qxm; 09-28-2007 at 08:23 PM..

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	As somebody mentioned earlier, grades aren't a good predictor of financial success in life. But it does effect the type of occupations people can choose. The A+ lab rat genius working on finding medical cures or mathmetician figuring out new mathematical models is usually not wealthy, but the C+ sociable person who can make real estate deals can be a multi-millionaire. That being said, there is a correlation between higher education and increased income because higher education opens doors to better paying occupations like doctors, lawyers, accountants etc. In industries, it opens doors to higher management levels, where inbuilt hiearchy, and not necessarily skill are most important. Most A+ and C+ students aren't millionaires, but there are millionaires from both groups. It all comes down to the individual. There are also many more C+ students than A+ students, and the C+ millionaire makes for a sweeter story. Regardless, it's not a huge surprise that somebody who is really creative or driven may do poorly in school, because they don't care for it, to become successful. Another thing to note is that many of the C+ students cited in the article who became huge successes were students in the 1960's and prior. This was a time when getting into business and the cost of living was very different than today. Those very same successful business owners want their employees to have credentials up the ass before they'll hire them. Obviously personal goals play a lot into it as well. I think it's in the movie Citizen Kane where the guy says something like "you can make a lot of money, if all that you want to do in life, is make money." It's not quite that easy in real life, but you get the gist of the message. Last edited by Drake; 09-28-2007 at 08:36 PM..

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