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Old 09-25-2007, 12:08 PM   #1
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:mad You Can't Live Here If You Have Tattoos.

No, let me start off by saying I have ZERO tattoos, and neither does my partner.

However, I do STRONGLY believe that they are a form of art, and personal expression, and a type of free speech.

Now. Watch THIS shit!

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Old 09-25-2007, 12:09 PM   #2
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:10 PM   #3
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I get tired of this country being such a clusterfuck of bigots.
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pretty amazing.. i would wonder if it's more of a deterrent than anything
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Buahahahaha now that's BAD publicity
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And they claim to not discriminate......
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damn, why would they wanna live there anyway?
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wow, how exactly is that not discrimmination?
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:17 PM   #9
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And they claim to not discriminate......
hahahahaa

what fucking dubmasses....that dude REALLY thinks discriminating is only dealing with race
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then move somewhere else...



as a business owner you have the right to refuse service to anyone...


this is not discrimnation... they were not born with tattoos..
like being fag... your not born queer your molested queer.... .. that was a choice they made so they have to live with reprucussions of that choice....


personally I have my own reason I hate tattoos... they are not art... art you find in a gallery.. tattoos are conversation pieces for people with low self esteme....

and yes my wife has 40 tattoos you don't think we argue all day LOL....

I think it's great...

im a smoker myself but I don't hire smokers you know why? they take to many breaks... is that discrimnation?

look if someone wants to keep there place classy and not trashy then they have the right to that.....


they did not throw them out for reasons that the people could not avoid.... they CHOSE to put tatts on them so they have to be ready to deal with that... by them whining about it shows the type of person they are... and prob better off not living there...
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thats really insane, i'd raise more hell lol
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I get tired of this country being such a clusterfuck of bigots.

Not allowing tatooed people to rent an apeartment is not bigotry dumbass.

Face facts the VAST majority of people in prsion have tatoos. Now does that mean having a tattoo turns you inot a criminal? No, but criminals tend to have tatoos. Fact is most here bitching about his are totally for every arab to be anal probed before going on a plane, so please.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:22 PM   #14
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like being fag... your not born queer your molested queer.... .. that was a choice they made so they have to live with reprucussions of that choice....
What exactly, is it like being so uneducated?
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:24 PM   #16
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Not allowing tatooed people to rent an apeartment is not bigotry dumbass.

Face facts the VAST majority of people in prsion have tatoos. Now does that mean having a tattoo turns you inot a criminal? No, but criminals tend to have tatoos.
There are statistically a bigger percentage of black people in prison than white people, so using your logic, they should be able to refuse housing to black people as well?

I don't think that I'm the dumbass here. You're the one using failed logic.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:25 PM   #17
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What exactly, is it like being so uneducated?
don't take offence girlie.... I have nothing against gays at all.... trust me.. I was proving a point...

like the old saying you got two roads in life ... choose the path but once you choose it you may be on a dirt road or you may choose the smooth road.. what ever the road may be deal with it...
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:26 PM   #18
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personally I have my own reason I hate tattoos... they are not art... art you find in a gallery.. tattoos are conversation pieces for people with low self esteme....
BTW: As someone that owns an art gallery, let me tell you that your assessment of what art is, is also wrong.

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There are statistically a bigger percentage of black people in prison than white people, so using your logic, they should be able to refuse housing to black people as well?

I don't think that I'm the dumbass here. You're the one using failed logic.
depends where you live.... but if you go to jail in cali you had best speak spanish....


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BTW: As someone that owns an art gallery, let me tell you that your assessment of what art is, is also wrong.


with that theory you can call anything art right?


yes everything is in an art gallery... sculptures, paintings, but im yet to see a tattoo studio in an art gallery and im an art fan
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Im not against tattoos but when you get one you should know that people will discriminate at jobs and apparently apartments.
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[B]There are statistically a bigger percentage of black people in prison than white people, so using your logic, they should be able to refuse housing to black people as well?
They made that illegal.

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with that theory you can call anything art right?
He was probably a big fan of Robert Maplethorpe.
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with that theory you can call anything art right?


yes everything is in an art gallery... sculptures, paintings, but im yet to see a tattoo studio in an art gallery and im an art fan
Tattoos have existed in human culture for thousands of years, and have been a way for mankind to create individuality, memorialize important times or people in their lives, express their religious beliefs, associate culturally with others, and provide visual cues reflecting internal personality.

Tattoos are art.

They are also a form of speech, and I believe legally are protected, if not under the "fair housing act", under the first amendment.

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Tattoos have existed in human culture for thousands of years, and have been a way for mankind to create individuality, memorialize important times or people in their lives, express their religious beliefs, associate culturally with others, and provide visual cues reflecting internal personality.

Tattoos are art.

They are also a form of speech, and I believe legally are protected, if not under the "fair housing act", under the first amendment.
you think so huh?


do this....

tattoo "I want to shoot the (leader of our country)" right on your forehead and see how protected that pretty little head of your is.... you will find out quick that not all speech is free....
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Tattoos have existed in human culture for thousands of years, and have been a way for mankind to create individuality, memorialize important times or people in their lives, express their religious beliefs, associate culturally with others, and provide visual cues reflecting internal personality.

Tattoos are art.

They are also a form of speech, and I believe legally are protected, if not under the "fair housing act", under the first amendment.
here you go dood.... read your little girlie heart on laws from all 50 states on tattoos... then comd back and post how they are protected and form of free speech...

http://www.aaatattoodirectory.com/ta...egulations.htm
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Tattoos are art.

They are also a form of speech, and I believe legally are protected, if not under the "fair housing act", under the first amendment.
So the first Amendment doesn't apply to owners of apartment buildings dumbass. It applies to the government.
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you think so huh?

do this....

tattoo "I want to shoot the (leader of our country)" right on your forehead and see how protected that pretty little head of your is.... you will find out quick that not all speech is free....
What on earth point are you trying to make?

Everyone here agrees there are limits on speech (aka the famous "yelling fire" in a crowded theater). The vast majority of speech, however, is protected in this country.

You could write a threatening note on a piece of paper and hang it up on the fence in front of the White House and get a bad reaction as well.

Does that say anything about paper and its role in communication and speech?

Your talking about the substance of speech, I'm talking about the medium.
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Tattoo studios are still illegal in several states in the US: Vermont, Massachusetts and Oklahoma being a couple at the time of this writing.
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What on earth point are you trying to make?

Everyone here agrees there are limits on speech (aka the famous "yelling fire" in a crowded theater). The vast majority of speech, however, is protected in this country.

You could write a threatening note on a piece of paper and hang it up on the fence in front of the White House and get a bad reaction as well.

Does that say anything about paper and its role in communication and speech?

Your talking about the substance of speech, I'm talking about the medium.
your trying to say that they are protected and there not..... your trying to say that tattoo is art.. its not its just what it is a tattoo
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Tattoo studios are still illegal in several states in the US: Vermont, Massachusetts and Oklahoma being a couple at the time of this writing.
Look what judges say:

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BOSTON ? A Massachusetts law banning tattooing except by physicians has been deemed unconstitutional by a judge who suggested the state would be better served by licensing and regulating the industry.

The tattoo ban dates to the 1960s and was challenged this year by Martha's Vineyard residents John R. Parkinson and Stephan A. Lanphear. Their lawsuit, filed in conjunction with the American Civil Liberties Union, claimed that marking the human body is a protected form of expression.

Superior Court Judge Barbara Rouse agreed yesterday.

"Tattooing is an ancient art form which has been practiced in virtually ever culture," Rouse wrote. "Tattoos demonstrate commitment to political and personal beliefs."
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Look what judges say:
good find....


going to save this to show to the wife to give her an arguing point with me in the future
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That's crazy, good luck to them trying to enforce it.
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That's crazy, good luck to them trying to enforce it.

They will be able to enforcement. Hell there are some areas where HOMEOWNERS can lose their home for violating certain neighborhood rules. To say that a landlord doesn't have any say over what happens on his own property violates the constitution.
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They will be able to enforcement. Hell there are some areas where HOMEOWNERS can lose their home for violating certain neighborhood rules. To say that a landlord doesn't have any say over what happens on his own property violates the constitution.
a landlord does have say over what HAPPENS on his property. He does not have a say in the color of peoples skin. And that's what this is. Descrimination based on the color of skin. It just happens that the skin in question is red, purple, blue, yellow, green, black, etc.... all at the same time.
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I see no problem with them being rejected. They want to have a certin type of a person with certin standards livng there. Its their choice what kind of social atmosphere they want to maintain.

They can just choose a different place to live.
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My tats are easily covered, but if there was a pool at that complex, I'd probably be fucked.
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DirtyDanza: You are a complete idiot.

1.) Okay so since you're into hardcore brutal porn like you are... does that mean you got throat fucked by your dad when you were growing up? Nice logic there, you moron.

2.) What ever happened to you fighting kimbo?
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Someone without any tats should rent a place in there and then invite the Hells Angels for a big moving in party. Nothing they can do.... the guys that have the tats aren't doing the renting.
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Yes because i'm sure the hells angels would love to get even more attention brought to them...
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Tattoos have existed in human culture for thousands of years, and have been a way for mankind to create individuality, memorialize important times or people in their lives, express their religious beliefs, associate culturally with others, and provide visual cues reflecting internal personality.

Tattoos are art.
You can't compare tatoos people are getting today with the tribal reasons natives got them years ago. I have nothing against tatoos, but I'm pretty sure there are several reasons people get them today and it's certainly not for artistic value, ink shows up way better on canvas than on living skin.

One reason, like all body modification, is that they're not happy with the way they look or their life and they see it as a way of changing themselves. Self destructive people may get them because they like the feeling of pain or knowing that they've changed themselves and there's no turning back. Some in this group are also into cutting, scarring, branding, etc. You can't try to tell me a cattle brand on your back is "art".

The second is a social complex that drives people to do what others in their group do in order to feel accepted. Ie. My buddies are getting tatoos, therefore I should get tatoos so I can feel accepted within said group. I think this is the reason it's becoming a high school fad.

Third, maybe someone close died and it's their way of remembering and not letting go. Or some type of similar big event in their life. Changing their body reflects the change that has occurred.

These are the only reasons I can think of.
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ink shows up way better on canvas than on living skin.
Let me share a popular dictionary definition of the word "art" with you:

"Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature."

It absolutely amazes me how uncultured so many people on here are.

Why on earth would you think that "art" exists only on canvas?

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Yes I can.

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a landlord does have say over what HAPPENS on his property. He does not have a say in the color of peoples skin. And that's what this is. Descrimination based on the color of skin. It just happens that the skin in question is red, purple, blue, yellow, green, black, etc.... all at the same time.
By COLOR they mean RACE. Don't be a dipshit.
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Let me share a popular dictionary definition of the word "art" with you:

"Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature."

It absolutely amazes me how uncultured so many people on here are.

Why on earth would you think that "art" exists only on canvas?



Yes I can.


Who gives a fuck if it's art or not. That has ZERO to do with the issue, you idiot. If a landlord doesn't want to rent to tattooed people that's his right. In most places lanloards can refuse to rent to homos like you. Landlord have rights to. Or do you believe in communism?
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:42 PM   #46
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Who gives a fuck if it's art or not. That has ZERO to do with the issue, you idiot. If a landlord doesn't want to rent to tattooed people that's his right. In most places lanloards can refuse to rent to homos like you. Landlord have rights to. Or do you believe in communism?
I have a place I'm renting out, but I'm not going to rent to Europeans, people with brown hair, anyone that wears jeans, anyone with disfiguring burns, anyone who hasn't gone through college, anyone that has living relatives, (because I don't want them having guests), anyone I consider to be ugly or fat, deaf or blind, or anyone that has ever been to California.
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Let me share a popular dictionary definition of the word "art" with you:

"Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature."
By your definition a butcher is also an artist.

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It absolutely amazes me how uncultured so many people on here are.

Why on earth would you think that "art" exists only on canvas?
I didn't say it only existed on canvas, I simply said ink looks better on canvas. If it was about the design (ie ARTwork) would it not look better/brighter/clearer on paper or canvas? Of course it would.

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Yes I can.
Is this art too?

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look if someone wants to keep there place classy and not trashy then they have the right to that.....
some of the worlds most classy and rich people have tattoos....
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I simply said ink looks better on canvas. If it was about the design (ie ARTwork) would it not look better/brighter/clearer on paper or canvas? Of course it would.
Some of us are against destroying our walls with nails and hooks in order to hang your version of so-called art. I much prefer it to be on your skin.
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if this goes to court, the landlord will lose.
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