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Does this help will76 ???
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good to see there's still people who stand by their principles. It doesn't
matter if GFY will lose any sleep over it.....it doesn't matter if they care. Only things that matters to you is that you don't roll over and stick your head in the sand for something you don't like or agree with but the same support with paying them for advertising........ To you that's far more worth than whatever pssible effect your decision may have or not to people that caused this decision. :2 cents: There's not too many people with a spine left in this business....the trend these days is sock eachothers cock and pretend to be multi billionaires to eachother who only do this for fun as they don't need the money :thumbsup and then of course there's the majority who don't do anything that could be considered a job....unless posting full time on GFY is considered a job. |
I always wonder.....everyone I know that has some money none of them
spends their days on message boards...... |
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im off to find the "right" business obviously i am in the wrong one. waiting for Staurt to take another smoke errr, i mean GFY break... |
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Ya, I can see all the important business that goes on in here. Just because you pay to adverstise on a board where everyone already knows what everyone else does doesn't make it a business forum guy. I'm going to continue with fucking around and discussion programs. |
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and become rich....yet they're working a 9 to 5 job making $2K a month.... |
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GFY is the easiest $1M annual profit Playboy will ever make. i'm not even sure the magazine makes a profit. Admit it Hef, GoFuckYourself is the jewel in the Playboy empire! |
Makes me wonder about all the other adult webmaster forums theres a lot out there i know wfy fell flat on its face with regards to making off this potentially lucrative way of generating revenue but the fact is there is nothing special about any of these forums at all. Besides the fact they all seem to be vbulletin driven ones as well!
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At one point, they even had a 'Thread of the day' competition that would qualify for prizes. I kid you not, there were actually FANTASTIC posts made in that era. There's always been 'fucking around' but at least it wasn't a schoolyard pissfest and if there was - the actual pissfest was a lesson in business. Intelligent folks used to engage in the discussions - now they lurk and laugh at some of the idiotic antics while they run their well-oiled corporations during the day. Every once in awhile they'll pop out to clarify on some facts on the history of the industry. It's been at least 3 years that it starting spinning 'out of control' here. |
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Will, as you know for some reason I personally seem to have a slight dislike for you. However I have never shown any disrespect and it was very refreshing to see you do what you did. I do wish a lot more people were like you. |
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it is uncanny. I spend more on advertising here than what some of those people make who are telling me that i have it all wrong. too funny. |
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This is the forum that people post on although very little business is done here anymore, use to be a good bit more, now just drama and fighting. I think most people lurk read threads and contact people through icq etc... Instead of "doing business" by posting back and forth to each other on here. That gets hard to do when people pop in and make comments like "eat a dick" " you are poor sig whore" etc... but this is the forum where you can generate business, whether it be find a new host or sposor, hire someone to do SEO for you, find new affiliates, etc.. this site has generated 10s of millions of dollars in business deals for people posting here. The other forums are: Q&A, Sell and Buy, Help, and Adult Program forum. that's it. so this is the one where most people post and where most people do business. |
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I think of messageboards like bars back in college, they all offered the same drinks at the same price and the same loud music, idiots getting drunk and fights in the parking lot, but there was always 1 or 2 that had a line down the street charging $10 to get in and then there were other ones a block over that was exactly the same with no people in it. Its like a rock in a hard place, no posts on the site no one wants to go there, no one going there no posts on the site/. |
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trey hickey is truely a fucking idiot, if he "claimed" you ripped off people, thats like saying someone that promotes topbucks or tcg, or any other program sent in a referral, so you call them a scammer.
this guy sure does have a low iq. |
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Popular message board is an amazingly profitable business model. |
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Oddly I guess they were web 2.0 before it was cool and already knew about screwing people over for content. |
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The only thing i know about the ifriends side is that when the chathost wants you to stop using her pics you better comply. No site is perfect, they all have their flaws to some degree. I wouldn't want you to dislike me over it. I am sorry if you had bad experiences with them in the past. |
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In reality I suppose their site is indeed perfect as a web 2.0 model. Quick break down along with the time line so to speak. Ifriends starts and loves the talent, everyone makes tons of money they eat all charge backs. You can charge almost as little as you desire. They insist on a 1.99 minimum rate. Without telling many they sell gold accounts which gives members a 50% off discount for life at the low cost of 99.00 They forget to tell you that billing stops at 3 hours and if you do not stop and restart your show you do not get the extra time. Automatic archive photos begin, as with all new items it is set to on by default. Site takes your picture every few minutes and publishes them. They forgo buying every chathosts domain name before host can and now offer web hosting and billing. Assorted peeping sites pop up that the hosts are unaware of. Tiny streaming thumbnail shown to anyone without age verification. Chathosts now eat all chargebacks and shows that go uncollected. Site pretty much offers little to no support to hosts and will ban anyone that rocks the boat in their forums. Stores are also set up, no one warns anyone of the legalities just a trust us mentality. Insane rules set in for the non nude areas. I.E. Just sit there and do not move. Viewers may now take photos during your show, they get published. Viewers may now take videos during your show they get published. They offer fanclubs which are mini paysites inside the site itself. Allows hosts to offer free shows to members or discounts. Discounts may apply to your friends shows (whoops). You now have them viewing you full time in guest chat and a very see through overlay with privates. *some may be out of order and or not everything included. Hmm why? Hosts were competing with each other for marketing and offering up more and more free material in archives and in fanclubs. Ifriends was getting insane amounts of content that they own forever uploaded and updated every second. Ifriends no longer cared about the video time or hosts getting paid, they were making their money with monthly memberships that provided tons of perks and also included some free video time. Ok yes he was a genius and prolly is in some locked room spreading peanut butter over his body and only eating key limes and beer. Yet I still find it really fucking fucked up how they went about it all. That is without going into the clickcash side of things or the way they accidently fucked people out of chathost refferals. |
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I got banned from their chathost board more than a few times ;) To be honest with you the fact that a member gets access to tons of pictures and videos from the different chathost is a huge selling feature and something that I have used to get new people to sign up. Although I am pretty sure way back you didn't have to publish pictures to your archives and more recently you could only make your content viewable to your fan club members which the chat host does make money from those membership fees. I was unware of the 3+ hour time limit I never had a problem with that or noticed that. I i rocked the boat a little. It know it was super hard to get an account signed up and it would get kicked back easily. I left my cam one one night while i sleeping, made like $20 bucks, i even said " he come watch me sleep naked" thought it was the greatest way to make money... they didn't like that too much ;) Really what it comes down to for me is that most people are aware of the pros and cons of each site before they start there or shortly after, people just choose the one that works the best for them. Way back they were the only ones. Then there was cam g irls if i remember right only paid 40% and i think most girls had "managers" who took a big cut. Way too long ago for me to remember and some things i would probably not want to remember lol. |
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I haven't seen any clickcash posts in a long time here. |
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I lost all my chathost refferals because I was not an active chathot. Never was a chathost though. When I reffered those hosts and a shit load of them. They supposidly where yours for a lifetime and then you got a cut from each they reffered. I had a pretty good downline. Then they made that tos change and demanded I go through their age verification cam crap and be an active host to retain my refferals. |
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I'm glad that all is ok now :thumbsup
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Someone that should call.
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uh oh something is on
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Did I actually just read something from '07?
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This message is hidden because Machete_ is on your ignore list. Awe, looks like the anon troll got his feelings hurt and had to bump an old thread. Congrats for bumping the thread. Maybe you feel better now ? |
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