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will76 09-25-2007 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13141656)
wait wait... so that means we wont see spam threads for viraldiscussion.com from tampatoker anymore?!?!

you haven't seen that in over 3 weeks since the last time you had a hissle fit over it and I told you we would stop. But shit, if we still getting blammed for doing it even after we stopped, I might as well do it then right ?

will76 09-25-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13142257)
Who the fuck is lenseman ????

lensman , the guy behind the curtain.

will76 09-25-2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13141656)
wait wait... so that means we wont see spam threads for viraldiscussion.com from tampatoker anymore?!?!

Actually one thing doesn't have anything to do with the other.


BTW, You haven't seen those posts in over 3 weeks, since the last time you had a hissy fit over it and I told you we would stop. But shit, if we still getting blammed for doing it even after we stopped, I might as well do it then right ?

lazycash 09-25-2007 03:39 PM

Come back Will, Pimpdogg has been banned and I have a feeling this ban is going to be for a very long time.

Klen 09-25-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142277)
lensman , the guy behind the curtain.

I know that i just joking with your spelling error.

yumma 09-25-2007 03:41 PM

i love will threads! bump!

avolongold 09-25-2007 03:42 PM

very good work will :thumbsup

lazycash 09-25-2007 03:44 PM

Whenever something on the board starts to affect revenue, Lensman seems to come out of hiding and take care of it.

will76 09-25-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13142247)
Actually, today I recoded 195 old fhg's and added in the multiple tours module in the custom affiliate software I'm writing.

By the way, you shouldn't take posts out of context, at least include the response. It's a pretty old thread and people may forget that Mark actually had no clue what I did on a daily basis. :glugglug


take posts out of context ? What are you fucking retarded. I reposted the whole post here. People can link over if they want to read the other 4 pages. I am nnot going to post all 4 pages here.

Oh, and your reply to DH saying you were on GFY ALLL THE TIME while you were working..... " but i don't smoke, other people take smoke breaks I take GFY breaks. " :1orglaugh You have a sad life man, you should be working but you are posting stupid pictures in my thread, which doesnt affect you and has nothing to do with you. At least when I piss with people, it is people who are fucking me or everyone else. You just choose to troll people you don't like just cause you have nothing better to do. When you should be working. Nice wheels btw.

will76 09-25-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 13142302)
Come back Will, Pimpdogg has been banned and I have a feeling this ban is going to be for a very long time.

hey thanks its all worked out now. I wasn't going to leave necessarily but i wasn't going to spend money here if someone could break the rules and bash me and my business like that. It kind of defeats the purpose to spend money on adverising just to have some lunitac trying to ruin your business.

tranza 09-25-2007 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13142247)
Actually, today I recoded 195 old fhg's and added in the multiple tours module in the custom affiliate software I'm writing.

By the way, you shouldn't take posts out of context, at least include the response. It's a pretty old thread and people may forget that Mark actually had no clue what I did on a daily basis. :glugglug

Lol, that's like 1 hour of actual work.

You really DO spend too much time here.

StuartD 09-25-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142356)
take posts out of context ? What are you fucking retarded. I reposted the whole post here. People can link over if they want to read the other 4 pages. I am nnot going to post all 4 pages here.

Oh, and your reply to DH saying you were on GFY ALLL THE TIME while you were working..... " but i don't smoke, other people take smoke breaks I take GFY breaks. " :1orglaugh You have a sad life man, you should be working but you are posting stupid pictures in my thread, which doesnt affect you and has nothing to do with you. At least when I piss with people, it is people who are fucking me or everyone else. You just choose to troll people you don't like just cause you have nothing better to do. When you should be working. Nice wheels btw.

Again, I never said I don't like you. You came up with that one yourself.
And again, you took pieces of my quote and not the entirety.

If you want to make Mark look bad, I'm more than happy to get into just how much time he spends in the office.... and just how much actual managing he really does. If he hadn't fired my actual boss 4 days before x-mas, I could have had him speak up but he's no longer in the industry. I care nothing for Mark anymore and can happily tell you lots of stuff. But I am friends with all the employees there and would rather not divulge anything that can cause further stresses on them.

I worked longer and harder than anyone there.... before, after and during lunch and break time. Feel free to icq Devin or Steve or anyone else who are actually in the office for confirmation.

But hey, this isn't about things you known nothing about... it's about we all know. You crying about a bully. :glugglug

StuartD 09-25-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13142436)
Lol, that's like 1 hour of actual work.

You really DO spend too much time here.

oh? And you know exactly what is entailed in creating an entire system from scratch all the while integrating it with the current system that's been in place for almost a decade?

Just to get you started, it requires all new linking codes that work inconjunction with the old link codes, all new redirection scripts to allow old galleries on old servers to work with the new ones, all new html/php on each gallery, all new database management, all new content management to dynamically inject the hosted content into the hosted galleries via a simple click system.....

shall I continue?

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-25-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142264)
you haven't seen that in over 3 weeks since the last time you had a hissle fit over it and I told you we would stop. But shit, if we still getting blammed for doing it even after we stopped, I might as well do it then right ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142288)
Actually one thing doesn't have anything to do with the other.


BTW, You haven't seen those posts in over 3 weeks, since the last time you had a hissy fit over it and I told you we would stop. But shit, if we still getting blammed for doing it even after we stopped, I might as well do it then right ?

wtf are you talking about i haven't said anything about it till now... jesus you're so hell bent on your crusades that you don't even remember anything..

nico-t 09-25-2007 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam (Post 13141721)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...slingblade.jpg

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh OH FUCK :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BradM 09-25-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13142477)
oh? And you know exactly what is entailed in creating an entire system from scratch all the while integrating it with the current system that's been in place for almost a decade?

Just to get you started, it requires all new linking codes that work inconjunction with the old link codes, all new redirection scripts to allow old galleries on old servers to work with the new ones, all new html/php on each gallery, all new database management, all new content management to dynamically inject the hosted content into the hosted galleries via a simple click system.....

shall I continue?

Sounds like something one of our guys could do in 1-2 months 8 hours a day.
So ya, big project.

rowan 09-25-2007 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13142436)
Lol, that's like 1 hour of actual work.

You really DO spend too much time here.

We all do. Your post has just reminded me to get back to it. I'm closing GFY right after I hit submit. :winkwink::helpme

baddog 09-25-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13141879)
GFY runs a pretty profitable business, 34 top spots banners at $2500 = $85000/month + skinning income + flash overlay income. With that, you'd think the servers would be rather stable!
WG

Hey, moderators are not cheap.

tony286 09-25-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13142257)
Who the fuck is lenseman ????

He is an optometrist who comes on GFY now and then to look at the would you hit it threads.Got my glasses from him best prices online. :)

will76 09-25-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13142457)
Again, I never said I don't like you. You came up with that one yourself.
And again, you took pieces of my quote and not the entirety.

If you want to make Mark look bad, I'm more than happy to get into just how much time he spends in the office.... and just how much actual managing he really does. If he hadn't fired my actual boss 4 days before x-mas, I could have had him speak up but he's no longer in the industry. I care nothing for Mark anymore and can happily tell you lots of stuff. But I am friends with all the employees there and would rather not divulge anything that can cause further stresses on them.

I worked longer and harder than anyone there.... before, after and during lunch and break time. Feel free to icq Devin or Steve or anyone else who are actually in the office for confirmation.

But hey, this isn't about things you known nothing about... it's about we all know. You crying about a bully. :glugglug


You have nothing to prove to me, by posting in this thread and several other threads that you post in during the day (and night) you prove you post a lot while you are working. I don't care for DH either, although he was your boss and whether he was in the office or not i am sure he knew what was going on. hell he could be at home on GFY and see you posting when he knew you should be working.

Sometimes you don't need to say " I don't like you" for people to know you don;t like them. You always pop up in my threads with something smart ass to say or some stupid picture to post. So you did 1 hour of work today and posted on GFY for 3 hours, how much did you get paid for ?

Extreme John 09-25-2007 04:35 PM

Will glad to see everything got worked out man, your a good guy and I dont blame you one bit for being pissed off. Hopefully the issue is resolved for a long time to come.

will76 09-25-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13142486)
wtf are you talking about i haven't said anything about it till now... jesus you're so hell bent on your crusades that you don't even remember anything..

you are another fucking moron here. What crusade? do you even know what the word means. I simply stated i wouldnt be advertising here any more because of false accusations made about me..... and then i reply to a bunch of trolls talking out of their ass, yeah thats a crusade :upsidedow


You said:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13141656)
wait wait... so that means we wont see spam threads for viraldiscussion.com from tampatoker anymore?!?!

and i replied that we hadn't been doing that since you bitched about it over 3 weeks ago. No need for you to ask if we no longer be doing something that we stopped doing well over 3 weeks ago.

Sausage 09-25-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13141558)
will76... I think you're in the wrong business.

No he's not. I know for a fact he makes more than you, and 99.99% of other people here in GFY, and is actually willing to help people out.

Trey ... well he's good for views trolling threads.

Gfy will always be the place to come for drama, and the other boards are places to do business. Its been that way ..... forever.

Aussie Rebel 09-25-2007 04:55 PM

Will do you still want us to drop our sigs? or is it all sweet now?

will76 09-25-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 13142800)
Will do you still want us to drop our sigs? or is it all sweet now?

its all good, GFY stepped up and Trey is finally held accountable for the shit he makes up about people.

Sigs are ok now, and thank you very much for having them there, i do appreciate the support.

Aussie Rebel 09-25-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142821)
its all good, GFY stepped up and Trey is finally held accountable for the shit he makes up about people.

Sigs are ok now, and thank you very much for having them there, i do appreciate the support.

No worries mate:thumbsup

StuartD 09-25-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142674)
You have nothing to prove to me, by posting in this thread and several other threads that you post in during the day (and night) you prove you post a lot while you are working. I don't care for DH either, although he was your boss and whether he was in the office or not i am sure he knew what was going on. hell he could be at home on GFY and see you posting when he knew you should be working.

Sometimes you don't need to say " I don't like you" for people to know you don;t like them. You always pop up in my threads with something smart ass to say or some stupid picture to post. So you did 1 hour of work today and posted on GFY for 3 hours, how much did you get paid for ?

1 hour huh? Not even going to check with anyone at GTS huh?
Just keep on believing what you want to believe to make yourself feel better rather than know the truth.

It's what you do best.... well, besides crying about stuff. :glugglug

Brother Bilo 09-25-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver (Post 13141316)
You dont sound too bright.. maybe you did not get the memo, but we are talking about business credibility and people?s livelihood here? it should be taken very seriously

you are now on my ignore list as I am sure you will never say anything useful to me

So then I am to assume that people are making business decisions based upon someones posts on a forum titled "Fucking Around & Program Discussion"? If that's the case, good luck with your company dude.

From what I understood about this forum is that this were people fuck around, not have discussions that effect the outcome of their business. Figured that stuff would be handled on a business forum. GFY has one of those right? Just checking.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-25-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142727)
and i replied that we hadn't been doing that since you bitched about it over 3 weeks ago. No need for you to ask if we no longer be doing something that we stopped doing well over 3 weeks ago.

Will you're an idiot, jesus fuck, i never said jack shit about your goons posting shit for your crappy site till today... go whine some more

TurboAngel 09-25-2007 05:19 PM

I want to thank you all, I just had the best laugh of the day!


:)

yahoo-xxx-girls.com 09-25-2007 05:24 PM

Does this help will76 ???
 
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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13142144)
i am not sure which thread you just read..... I asked people to remove my sig because it was like 580x100. If I am not a top advertiser these people's sigs would be too big and they would be breaking the rules, I didnt want to get anyone in trouble. I doesnt matter what i change the source code, their sig would still be the same since unless they edited it on gfy. But thanks for not reading my post, understanding what i said, and then telling me I was in the wrong business.

If you cannot read GFY rules... then I would have to say you are in the wrong business... So then if you are hosting the images then just get a smaller image(s) and call it the same file name(s) as your larger banner(s) and replace your larger banners with smaller ones... this should be simple for you to understand... if you need help or if you are a bit slow... I will type slower for you...

.

DollarKing 09-25-2007 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 13141879)
GFY runs a pretty profitable business, 34 top spots banners at $2500 = $85000/month + skinning income + flash overlay income. With that, you'd think the servers would be rather stable!
WG

Is there any 100% way to tell which banner is a paid up ad and which is a aff click thru?

Papillon 09-25-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 13141744)
And what did you just do? :1orglaugh

Damn I'm sexy.

yeah thats a great set of tits you got :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

will76 09-25-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13142858)
So then I am to assume that people are making business decisions based upon someones posts on a forum titled "Fucking Around & Program Discussion"? If that's the case, good luck with your company dude.

From what I understood about this forum is that this were people fuck around, not have discussions that effect the outcome of their business. Figured that stuff would be handled on a business forum. GFY has one of those right? Just checking.

you right now money is made here. :upsidedow people just spend thousands to advertise here because it is fun. No money is made from this site, :helpme:1orglaugh

ServerGenius 09-25-2007 05:48 PM

good to see there's still people who stand by their principles. It doesn't
matter if GFY will lose any sleep over it.....it doesn't matter if they care.
Only things that matters to you is that you don't roll over and stick your
head in the sand for something you don't like or agree with but the same
support with paying them for advertising........

To you that's far more worth than whatever pssible effect your decision
may have or not to people that caused this decision. :2 cents:

There's not too many people with a spine left in this business....the trend
these days is sock eachothers cock and pretend to be multi billionaires
to eachother who only do this for fun as they don't need the money :thumbsup

and then of course there's the majority who don't do anything that could
be considered a job....unless posting full time on GFY is considered a job.

ServerGenius 09-25-2007 05:49 PM

I always wonder.....everyone I know that has some money none of them
spends their days on message boards......

will76 09-25-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Balalsubturfyooj (Post 13142905)
If you cannot read GFY rules... then I would have to say you are in the wrong business... So then if you are hosting the images then just get a smaller image(s) and call it the same file name(s) as your larger banner(s) and replace your larger banners with smaller ones... this should be simple for you to understand... if you need help or if you are a bit slow... I will type slower for you...

.

no please type slower i don't get it. jesus the people on this site are relentless. Yes I am in the wrong business if you say so. FYI, i am not even sure if anyone is hotlinking or not, people were kind enough to fly my banner without me asking.


im off to find the "right" business obviously i am in the wrong one.

waiting for Staurt to take another smoke errr, i mean GFY break...

Brother Bilo 09-25-2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13143002)
you right now money is made here. :upsidedow people just spend thousands to advertise here because it is fun. No money is made from this site, :helpme:1orglaugh

Am I wrong though? Is this not the forum for fucking around as the title would suggest or is this the board for important business discussions? If I'm wrong, then I apologize. Must of been the thread about who bitches more, or the thread asking if you would hit it or not that confused me.

Ya, I can see all the important business that goes on in here. Just because you pay to adverstise on a board where everyone already knows what everyone else does doesn't make it a business forum guy. I'm going to continue with fucking around and discussion programs.

ServerGenius 09-25-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13143017)
no please type slower i don't get it. jesus the people on this site are relentless. Yes I am in the wrong business if you say so. FYI, i am not even sure if anyone is hotlinking or not, people were kind enough to fly my banner without me asking.


im off to find the "right" business obviously i am in the wrong one.

waiting for Staurt to take another smoke errr, i mean GFY break...

isn't it funny that everyone knows exactly how you should run your business
and become rich....yet they're working a 9 to 5 job making $2K a month....

Mutt 09-25-2007 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DollarKing (Post 13142919)
Is there any 100% way to tell which banner is a paid up ad and which is a aff click thru?

ahahahaha - u think that some of the top banners are Lensman looking for webmaster referral money. those are all paid spots. WiredGuy has it a little wrong - a good portion of the banners up there are long term advertisers and they get a discount.

GFY is the easiest $1M annual profit Playboy will ever make. i'm not even sure the magazine makes a profit.

Admit it Hef, GoFuckYourself is the jewel in the Playboy empire!

DollarKing 09-25-2007 06:38 PM

Makes me wonder about all the other adult webmaster forums theres a lot out there i know wfy fell flat on its face with regards to making off this potentially lucrative way of generating revenue but the fact is there is nothing special about any of these forums at all. Besides the fact they all seem to be vbulletin driven ones as well!

HS-Trixxxia 09-25-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13143023)
Am I wrong though? Is this not the forum for fucking around as the title would suggest or is this the board for important business discussions? If I'm wrong, then I apologize. Must of been the thread about who bitches more, or the thread asking if you would hit it or not that confused me.

Ya, I can see all the important business that goes on in here. Just because you pay to adverstise on a board where everyone already knows what everyone else does doesn't make it a business forum guy. I'm going to continue with fucking around and discussion programs.

BB - until they started paying people for sigs, this place was actually a goldmine to get business.

At one point, they even had a 'Thread of the day' competition that would qualify for prizes. I kid you not, there were actually FANTASTIC posts made in that era.

There's always been 'fucking around' but at least it wasn't a schoolyard pissfest and if there was - the actual pissfest was a lesson in business. Intelligent folks used to engage in the discussions - now they lurk and laugh at some of the idiotic antics while they run their well-oiled corporations during the day. Every once in awhile they'll pop out to clarify on some facts on the history of the industry.

It's been at least 3 years that it starting spinning 'out of control' here.

After Shock Media 09-25-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13142858)
So then I am to assume that people are making business decisions based upon someones posts on a forum titled "Fucking Around & Program Discussion"? If that's the case, good luck with your company dude.

From what I understood about this forum is that this were people fuck around, not have discussions that effect the outcome of their business. Figured that stuff would be handled on a business forum. GFY has one of those right? Just checking.

The majority of people come into this area "fucking around & program discussion". True many more take the fucking around more than the program discussion portion of the topic. However any business can not be libeled or publicly slayed without valid proof since there is a lot of webmaster traffic present. A single thread on gfy often can and has destroyed more than one company or individuals reputation for life, if not down right drove them out of business. The program discussion is the business forum around here.


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Originally Posted by DollarKing (Post 13143182)
Makes me wonder about all the other adult webmaster forums theres a lot out there i know wfy fell flat on its face with regards to making off this potentially lucrative way of generating revenue but the fact is there is nothing special about any of these forums at all. Besides the fact they all seem to be vbulletin driven ones as well!

Most adult forums are no where near as successful as GFY, many do have referral banners, and then lots more can not even charge a tenth of what gfy charges per month. WiredGuy also left out the lower midsized button advertisers that rotate at the bottom and in the right hand corner near the post button by the way.

Will, as you know for some reason I personally seem to have a slight dislike for you. However I have never shown any disrespect and it was very refreshing to see you do what you did. I do wish a lot more people were like you.

will76 09-25-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13143026)
isn't it funny that everyone knows exactly how you should run your business
and become rich....yet they're working a 9 to 5 job making $2K a month....


it is uncanny. I spend more on advertising here than what some of those people make who are telling me that i have it all wrong. too funny.

will76 09-25-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13143023)
Am I wrong though? Is this not the forum for fucking around as the title would suggest or is this the board for important business discussions? If I'm wrong, then I apologize. Must of been the thread about who bitches more, or the thread asking if you would hit it or not that confused me.

Ya, I can see all the important business that goes on in here. Just because you pay to adverstise on a board where everyone already knows what everyone else does doesn't make it a business forum guy. I'm going to continue with fucking around and discussion programs.

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not a fake nick asking a serious question.

This is the forum that people post on although very little business is done here anymore, use to be a good bit more, now just drama and fighting. I think most people lurk read threads and contact people through icq etc... Instead of "doing business" by posting back and forth to each other on here. That gets hard to do when people pop in and make comments like "eat a dick" " you are poor sig whore" etc... but this is the forum where you can generate business, whether it be find a new host or sposor, hire someone to do SEO for you, find new affiliates, etc.. this site has generated 10s of millions of dollars in business deals for people posting here.

The other forums are: Q&A, Sell and Buy, Help, and Adult Program forum. that's it. so this is the one where most people post and where most people do business.

will76 09-25-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DollarKing (Post 13143182)
Makes me wonder about all the other adult webmaster forums theres a lot out there i know wfy fell flat on its face with regards to making off this potentially lucrative way of generating revenue but the fact is there is nothing special about any of these forums at all. Besides the fact they all seem to be vbulletin driven ones as well!

there is nothing special about this one more so than the others, other than there is more people who read here and more posts, so it stays very active. On some of the others you post and someone replies back to you 3 days later.

I think of messageboards like bars back in college, they all offered the same drinks at the same price and the same loud music, idiots getting drunk and fights in the parking lot, but there was always 1 or 2 that had a line down the street charging $10 to get in and then there were other ones a block over that was exactly the same with no people in it.

Its like a rock in a hard place, no posts on the site no one wants to go there, no one going there no posts on the site/.

will76 09-25-2007 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13143315)

Will, as you know for some reason I personally seem to have a slight dislike for you. However I have never shown any disrespect and it was very refreshing to see you do what you did. I do wish a lot more people were like you.

my doors always open if you want to talk about it. I never had anything against you. You would be amazed how many times people take stuff the wrong way, but then again i have no idea why you dislike me.

fris 09-25-2007 08:07 PM

trey hickey is truely a fucking idiot, if he "claimed" you ripped off people, thats like saying someone that promotes topbucks or tcg, or any other program sent in a referral, so you call them a scammer.

this guy sure does have a low iq.

Drake 09-25-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13143116)
GFY is the easiest $1M annual profit Playboy will ever make.

Truth:2 cents:

Popular message board is an amazingly profitable business model.

RawAlex 09-25-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Bilo (Post 13141287)
Sounds more like this place needs less bitching and more accepting that it's just a web board. Have fun with it. People take shit too seriously, everyone just needs to lighten up. Good luck with that.

There is a point where it goes from "funny ha-ha" to "damaging the reputation". with someone calling a program a scam all the time with nothing to back it up pretty much negates the value of the advertising.


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