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|  09-23-2007, 11:14 AM | #1 | 
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				told ya we shaved ;)
			 dunno what the big deal is, you guys act like ts is news LOL join the adult world, every program out there shaves haha just to clear this up, that guy that posted the screen shit does not have a clue what he is even looking at. just because we redirected sales back to our home account, he thinks we were shaving him. well the funny thing is, is that his account was suspended clealrly due to him losing us money. unfortuantly, he could login still becuase we did not disable his account. so with the bug and the fact he doesnt know what he was reading put that together ofcoarse he will assume one thing only. I really dont have the energy to fight off 100 people at once over soemthing that doesnt even exist. someone post some hard proof, then we can talk about it. I.E. code etc... anyone who takes what i say seriously, SERIOUSLY needs to have some mental help. 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:17 AM | #2 | 
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				 | btw, milk is an acronym (sp*) method is losing kill account simply put, his method is losing us money, kill his account and redirect sales to our inhouse account. would you rather type all that outt, or just type milk. i dont care who beleives me or not, it is what it is. now see sig bitches ;) 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:19 AM | #3 | 
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				 | ive been shaving for many many years now...ever since i hit puberty no big deal  
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|  09-23-2007, 11:20 AM | #4 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:23 AM | #6 | 
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				 | Check this out now people say we shave because we said we work with your program   http://www.affiliatecheaters.com/ Some people, lol 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:25 AM | #7 | 
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				 | bottom line is it doesnt matter who shaves and who doesnt, its who makes you the most money at the end off the day... 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:26 AM | #8 | 
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				 | ..... i guess 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:26 AM | #9 | 
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				 | are you really black? 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:27 AM | #10 | 
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				 | almost every single program out there shaves, not that big of a deal, just something I've always been used to | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:28 AM | #11 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:29 AM | #12 | 
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				 | According to the error query though, you were making more profit off his cam sales than losing on his non cam sales, so why can him? | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:31 AM | #13 | |
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 is that your logic? 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:32 AM | #14 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:40 AM | #15 | 
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				 | CCBill Affiliate managed programs don't shave, do they?  It seems like NATS makes shaving super easy, IMHO. 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:42 AM | #16 | |
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 if a link isnt working and it goes to a 404 pge people call that shaving. or if an affiloiate id doesnt get carried over over simple mistake, they are shaving. affiliates are whiny little bitches these days including you for even posting this lol anyone can shave at any given moment 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:44 AM | #17 | 
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				 | p1mpdogg i want money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:50 AM | #18 | 
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				 | Did I say everything was ok?  You said you were losing money with that affiliate, but according to the stats in that screenshot you were ultimately making a profit off that affiliate. | 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:52 AM | #19 | |
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 you said it yourself he was losing one program money. so what if the other one was making money. I said the notes wre not up todate did i not? ok, with that said, you have no clue wether or not he was making both programs money or not. again, you can make one program money, but lose the other program money and all is well./ is that your logic? 
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|  09-23-2007, 11:53 AM | #20 | 
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				 | sig secured spot 
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|  09-23-2007, 12:39 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Cam programs you can trust! See sig. 
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|  09-23-2007, 12:43 PM | #22 | 
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				 | I guess that means Jim comes back now. | 
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|  09-23-2007, 12:52 PM | #23 | |
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				 | We just pulled every link to Epiccash that we could find there's probably a few out there we'll find them eventually but for me I've seen enough evidence to justify pulling Epiccash. Do you have proof of this? You posted it so do you have proof? If not then you should be banned. Quote: 
 Gary 
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|  09-23-2007, 12:53 PM | #24 | |
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|  09-23-2007, 01:00 PM | #25 | 
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				 | jim didnt prove anything.. noone has proved anything. that is the funny part. all you haters want to assume its all true just ebcause you dont like me or my program cause im an asshole. news for you, get over it. 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:01 PM | #26 | |
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 are you an idiot? who proved anything? has there been any ssolid proof what so ever of anything posted? any rational person would say no... you clearly are not. 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:05 PM | #27 | 
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				 | Click sig for NON shaving sponsor! 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:09 PM | #28 | 
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				 | Actually Ive always been nice to you but you choose to call me a pile of shit. Always complimented you on your success and there was no hidden agenda there is nothing I need from you.When I did work for your company I was paid promptly both times. I think you should have better things to do with your time but your a probably a very lonely guy because if you werent you wouldnt be spenting your Saturday nights posting here . Jim has always been a gentleman to me so I dont have a problem with him and I dont think he made up cancer. People have said it to help his begging on this board for money I say please show me one post because I havent seen any. Once again there is nothing I need from jim so there is no agenda to be nice or not. | 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:09 PM | #29 | 
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				 | Well with the screenshots presented and you stating yourself by the title of this thread was enough for me. Oh by the way can you PROOF this? Gary 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:14 PM | #30 | 
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				 | half of that information isnt even true. I did not click on his images before, i only noticed they were there. these are NOT the same ones he sent me via email. this guy or jimthefiend have photshopped or did something to mess these images up. that goes along with my emails aswell. I DID say aallot of the stuff that is shown in those emails, but not all of it. he added in allot of crap to make it look bad and twist my words around. i did not catch this earlier because i figured it was the same shit that was going back in forth in email talkign with this guy. he also tried to exort money from epcicash. thats illegal and he will be delt with and also now that i found this out, he will be dealing with another charge aswell. for anyone who beleives this guy, is a fool. if we were shaving, we woulddnt be noting any ones account. it would be well hidden id imagine. again, I would testify in court that these images are not real and that they have been edited. JTF or this clown has added in extra words and phrases and whatever else to make it look bad. this is bullshit. LOOK at the email, everytihng is spelled corrrectly LOL 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:54 PM | #31 | |
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 Was he just a small affiliate who wasn't producing any sales? Or is there more to the story? Thank you in advance. | |
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|  09-23-2007, 01:57 PM | #32 | 
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				 | wouldnt that be MILKA    
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|  09-23-2007, 01:58 PM | #33 | 
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				 | the classic Sleazy defense. I can't spell it can't be me. 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:59 PM | #34 | |
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 I run it to make money, not lose it, and he was costing us money in the end. sucks to be terminated I am sure, but i have my own company to worry about, not some small time afffliate that doesnt knoww how to make money in porn. 
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|  09-23-2007, 01:59 PM | #35 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 02:04 PM | #36 | |
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|  09-23-2007, 03:35 PM | #37 | 
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				 | See sig for webcam sponsors that don't constantly shit on their affiliates and shave sales. 
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|  09-23-2007, 06:44 PM | #38 | 
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				 | Unless you disclose it in your terms, I suspect that legally it would be considered fraud.. i.e. your terms say you pay for every signup.. if you shave, then you don't. | 
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|  09-23-2007, 06:46 PM | #39 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 06:46 PM | #40 | 
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				 | Fake charge back too? That's pretty low. 
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|  09-23-2007, 07:14 PM | #41 | 
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|  09-23-2007, 07:35 PM | #42 | 
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|  11-07-2007, 06:22 AM | #43 | 
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				 | interesting read. | 
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|  11-15-2007, 10:08 PM | #44 | 
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				 | I heart shaving 
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|  11-15-2007, 10:27 PM | #45 | 
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				 | well I've decided not to join epiccash, and just deleted it from my 'potentials' bookmark folder. sig spot secured. 
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|  11-15-2007, 10:36 PM | #46 | 
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|  11-15-2007, 10:40 PM | #47 | |
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 love the referral links below the sites they accuse of cheating   | |
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|  11-15-2007, 10:54 PM | #48 | 
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				 | I don't care if you shave my stats from epic are great around 1:24 with a $50 PPS! I haven't made much but with the tiny amount of traffic I sent to test it but hell when no effort = $$$ I won't bitch....  -Thanks p1mpdogg | 
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|  11-15-2007, 11:03 PM | #49 | 
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				 | hmm, makes me wonder. 
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|  11-15-2007, 11:08 PM | #50 | 
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