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xxxjay 09-22-2007 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13123743)
I hear what you're saying.. But from a purely affiliates point of view (i.e. I don't care about conversions from trials to full with a PPS program), whether a site has a trial or not doesn't matter. We've just been conditioned to assume that a site with a trial will convert better than one without which simply isn't true. We all have sites we promote that are 1:2,000+ on a $1 trial. I could send 4,000 to a full priced site and still end up making the same amount of money, actually more since you're typically only geting $20 - $25 on a $1 trial but $30-$35+ on a full priced trial. As you show with your stats, it's only $$ per click that matters.
True...my whole point is if you have a site with no trial and add a trail it will convert better. There are a ton of other variables you can play with, including paying the webmaster a flat rate for a signup.

Just saying "I don't do trials" is just being lazy :2 cents:

peterk 09-22-2007 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13122067)
In case you needed a visual D.

http://www.xxxjay.com/wp-content//sacrifice.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
Ohhh man, fuck her don't kill :1orglaugh

Mutt 09-22-2007 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 13124867)
True...my whole point is if you have a site with no trial and add a trail it will convert better. There are a ton of other variables you can play with, including paying the webmaster a flat rate for a signup.

Just saying "I don't do trials" is just being lazy :2 cents:
Why isn't your program offering a true PPS on a trial? Surely if you've perfected your trial to full conversions and have good retention you realized that you'd have more affiliates/traffic/sales/revenue like a Pimproll/Bangbros/Silvecash etc


i don't get it - you want another program to offer something that your own program doesn't.

AGS-17 09-22-2007 08:31 AM
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D 09-22-2007 11:38 AM
If the word "deceptive" wasn't used, this wouldn't be such an issue with me...

But it was, and so it is.

I think I'm gonna make a poll outta this one to make it easier for people to give feedback one way or the other.

pocketkangaroo 09-22-2007 01:41 PM
D, while the new tours may have helped, I think it's entirely too small a sample size to make judgements on it. That 1:700 might just be a nice streak he is on. It might be the tours. I still find it hard to believe that simply changing the tour would make you convert 10 times better. Don't get me wrong, I've seen major improvements in tour changes, but that is a bit overboard.

Ray@TastyDollars 09-22-2007 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 13123702)
I have found from 10 years of tinkering with the numbers.....

10 year? Pfff, such a newb



:)

xxxjay 09-22-2007 06:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13125457)
Why isn't your program offering a true PPS on a trial? Surely if you've perfected your trial to full conversions and have good retention you realized that you'd have more affiliates/traffic/sales/revenue like a Pimproll/Bangbros/Silvecash etc


i don't get it - you want another program to offer something that your own program doesn't.
For us, it has to do with the deals we have stuctured with our content producers. If we went pay-per-sale they would lose money in the short term, but make more in the long term. Unfortuently, they are not internet savy and can't get that through their heads, so we have to keep things as they are. Otherwise, we'd do PPS on a trial no problem, but that isn't an option for us ATM.

Is that good enough for ya?

xxxjay 09-22-2007 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by peterk (Post 13124873)
Ohhh man, fuck her don't kill :1orglaugh
Someday I will do both.

Snake Doctor 09-25-2007 12:31 PM
Wow, I totally agree with xxxjay on this one. :eek7

Paying $30 PPS on a $30 join is a rip off IMHO.
If you don't offer trials you should be keeping members at least 3 months on average (probably more because hush has good unique content)
So on revshare the webmaster would make $45.

It would totally suck if a webmaster took the PPS option thinking there were trials and left all that money on the table.

Nicky 09-25-2007 12:47 PM
I would never promote PPs on a program that don't offer trials

tranza 09-25-2007 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by xxxjay (Post 13122825)
I think it is pretty standard for webmasters (or at least me) to assume that a 30$ PPS is on a trial. I would have never known unless I looked at your join form.

Am I alone in that?
No, you're not alone. Pretty much everyone else offers this. This is considered standard.

:2 cents:


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