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dropped9 09-21-2007 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 13120433)
OK... Well, in all honesty, Im pleased to be able to say, that a lot of the very long part of my explanation has actually been said, in the YouTube clip of the movie waking life, posted above. Its at 1.08 mins.

You see as life slips away, at that split second between life and death, your brain goes into a 'System Dump' mode, and kinda discharges all the memories and other crap, that's inside it... But it does so in way that can only be described as an extremely long, and complex dream... A dream that in my opinion, would last (To you anyway) for 'eternity'...

This isn't as far fetched as it may sound, simply because of the amount of times that you hear, 'My Life Flashed Before Me'... Because it does. That's exactly what happens...

Now if you have had a 'good' life, been happily married, raised kids etc etc, then the majority of your memories are 'good happy memories' then that's what this brain discharge will mostly comprise of.

And to integrate with popular thoughts... That would constitute 'Heaven'

Alternatively, if you have had a 'bad' life, committed a murder say, and spent twenty years in a jail... Then that would be the majority of your brain dump.

And constitute, 'Hell'

That pretty much sums it up. As I said, the youtube clip covered it fairly succinctly...

Finally you might be wondering 'How' I died... Well it wasn't anything 'exciting'... Back in 1996, I had a disease called Encephalitis, (Akin to meningitis' which cause swelling and inflammation to the lining of the brain. I was in the hospital, being treated anyway, and all of a sudden, I had the mother of all dreams... Must have lasted (to me) almost a year!

I really cannot explain the intricacy's and complexities of that dream, for you to fully comprehend it... But that's what happened. It was like an alternative life. It consisted of actual days, and nights, and going to sleep, and having dreams within the dream etc... The hospital never came into it, until 'one day' literally, There was a huge white light, and I was suddenly totally disorentated on a hospital bed...

Then I discovered, (A few weeks later) that I had been clinically dead for nearly three minutes...

Believe what I say, or not as the case maybe... But I know that if I were to die tomorrow... I wouldn't be scared of death...

Interesting read... more to come in regards to comments shortly...

woj 09-21-2007 03:59 PM

when you die, you just stop living, maybe for a few minutes you can still think but most likely, you just kinda fall asleep...

_Richard_ 09-21-2007 04:17 PM

your reflection gets imprinted on the planet!

seeric 09-21-2007 04:20 PM

im gonna die at 53 years old fucking a 19 year old girl and have a heart attack.

a crystal ball reader told me.

oh, and i paid her 50 dollars.

:(

shekinah 09-21-2007 04:26 PM

We need to die first before we know, but if we die, how could anyone know what happened to us?... Okay we can be ghost.

Silvercash Tess 09-21-2007 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhengisBong (Post 13118701)
religion was a mechanism to govern man.

I think that religion is just part of evolution. We adapt as a species to the environment we were born into and then taught how to live by our parents, just like animals. INSTINCT. No one has the answer to life. Everybody is wrong when you really think about it. Our mind has developed over millions of years, yet we still live by instinct i.e survival. It is really hard to say what happens after death. Everyone is a theorist. I can honestly say I do not know what happens.

Great thread by the way!!! I love talking about life and existence and listening to everyones ideas/beliefs/thoughts.:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

esnem 09-21-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 13118692)
<= Atheist.

what does that have to do with what happens when you die?

Silvercash Tess 09-21-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 13121840)
Well I certainly wasn't on any other drugs (IE Illegal ones) other than the drugs that the doctors had given me to relieve the pressure on my brain.

The dream I had that lasted the year in my mind, and the 3 mins in reality, was a lucid realistic dream, so much so I wasn't aware that I was dreaming in the least. Looking back now, I can see it was a dream, because for example I was living in the house that i lived in with my parents until I was about 10, but in my dream I lived there as an adult and my parents were not there. At the same time, other people I had known, but had died or moved away (only existed in my memories) often made appearances in the street or called me up on the phone... It really was a hugely convoluted version of some alternative reality. Caused by, or happening at the exact time I died...

Now the reason I say I didn't know for two weeks, was that with the pressure on my brain, I admit i was in a somewhat confused state anyway, and extremely physically week at the same time... So, it was two weeks into the recovery from the encephalitis, until I was told by a doctor that I had actually died...

You say nice story, but you wont 'buy' it... Well fair enough. Up to you, but remember this. Im not trying to 'sell' it!

In other words, Im not posting here saying 'Look at me ! I hold the answers to life and death'...

Im just recounting a true story, which actually happened to me...
That's all Nothingmore, nothing less...
Peace :)

Dimethyltryptamine -Several speculative and as yet untested hypotheses suggest that endogenous DMT, produced in the human brain, is involved in certain psychological and neurological states. As DMT is naturally produced in small amounts in the brains and other tissues of humans, and other mammals, some believe it plays a role in promoting the visual effects of natural dreaming, near-death experiences and other mystical states. A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher JC Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where brain DMT levels are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind.

Pretty interesting read.:)

GhengisBong 09-21-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvercash Tess (Post 13123334)
I think that religion is just part of evolution. We adapt as a species to the environment we were born into and then taught how to live by our parents, just like animals. INSTINCT. No one has the answer to life. Everybody is wrong when you really think about it. Our mind has developed over millions of years, yet we still live by instinct i.e survival. It is really hard to say what happens after death. Everyone is a theorist. I can honestly say I do not know what happens.

Great thread by the way!!! I love talking about life and existence and listening to everyones ideas/beliefs/thoughts.:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

The reason I stated that - was - 3 years ago in my freshman philosophy course - professor said during Aristotle's time - without a concept of heaven and hell or a greater power - lawlessness would rule.

Even during the past couple hundred of years Religion was used as a scapegoat for the inequality of society. Dont worry you poor bastard don't rebel against the king/government do as whats told and you will be rewarded when you die.
sorry for not being articulate atm but I no longer believe in God maybe American science done fucked up my mind but fuck it -

after lectures in philosophy, anthropology , and astronomy is hard to say there's an afterlife. I wish there is - i hope I'm wrong.


edit this thread is cool

Rand 09-21-2007 05:42 PM


Perhaps what you "believe" will happen to you once you pass on is what will happen.

Those who have faith in an afterlife, be it heaven or something else, will go there. Faith is a very powerful thing and the collective consciousness of millions of people could in theory make it a reality. If you are the type who thinks it's all nonsense, you have made up your mind not to be a part of this collective afterlife and you simply extinguish. This would fall in line with what a lot of religions preach. A popular idea among "believers" is that hell is actually just eternity without God.

No one "knows" for sure. And that's why it's called faith. I choose to have faith that there is something afterward. I prefer to think of it that way.


uno 09-21-2007 05:42 PM

Either soilent green or worm food. Either way its the same.

Porn Farmer 09-21-2007 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 13123416)
Faith is a very powerful thing and the collective consciousness of millions of people could in theory make it a reality.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Peaches 09-21-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 13123416)

Perhaps what you "believe" will happen to you once you pass on is what will happen.

Those who have faith in an afterlife, be it heaven or something else, will go there. Faith is a very powerful thing and the collective consciousness of millions of people could in theory make it a reality. If you are the type who thinks it's all nonsense, you have made up your mind not to be a part of this collective afterlife and you simply extinguish. This would fall in line with what a lot of religions preach. A popular idea among "believers" is that hell is actually just eternity without God.

No one "knows" for sure. And that's why it's called faith. I choose to have faith that there is something afterward. I prefer to think of it that way.


Agree. I believe in an afterlife. Always have, always will.

celebnudevideo 09-21-2007 05:52 PM

You die and your soul goes to hell if you were involved in porn business !

We will have one big party :-D

Rand 09-21-2007 05:55 PM


Try watching this and see if you come any closer to seeing the point I was trying to make.




http://www.whatthebleep.com/images/poster.jpg

GhengisBong 09-21-2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 13123467)

Try watching this and see if you come any closer to seeing the point I was trying to make.




http://www.whatthebleep.com/images/poster.jpg

post it up - mega up it - rapid care it - whatever - you know we don't pay for media anymore. But i see your point - would really like to watch

celebnudevideo 09-21-2007 06:18 PM

i'd love to see that vid as well, yeah.. rapid care it please

SleazyDream 09-21-2007 07:55 PM

heaven, you feel good.

hell, you become pimpdog

polish_aristocrat 02-21-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner (Post 13120433)
OK... Well, in all honesty, Im pleased to be able to say, that a lot of the very long part of my explanation has actually been said, in the YouTube clip of the movie waking life, posted above. Its at 1.08 mins.

You see as life slips away, at that split second between life and death, your brain goes into a 'System Dump' mode, and kinda discharges all the memories and other crap, that's inside it... But it does so in way that can only be described as an extremely long, and complex dream... A dream that in my opinion, would last (To you anyway) for 'eternity'...

This isn't as far fetched as it may sound, simply because of the amount of times that you hear, 'My Life Flashed Before Me'... Because it does. That's exactly what happens...

Now if you have had a 'good' life, been happily married, raised kids etc etc, then the majority of your memories are 'good happy memories' then that's what this brain discharge will mostly comprise of.

And to integrate with popular thoughts... That would constitute 'Heaven'

Alternatively, if you have had a 'bad' life, committed a murder say, and spent twenty years in a jail... Then that would be the majority of your brain dump.

And constitute, 'Hell'

That pretty much sums it up. As I said, the youtube clip covered it fairly succinctly...

Finally you might be wondering 'How' I died... Well it wasn't anything 'exciting'... Back in 1996, I had a disease called Encephalitis, (Akin to meningitis' which cause swelling and inflammation to the lining of the brain. I was in the hospital, being treated anyway, and all of a sudden, I had the mother of all dreams... Must have lasted (to me) almost a year!

I really cannot explain the intricacy's and complexities of that dream, for you to fully comprehend it... But that's what happened. It was like an alternative life. It consisted of actual days, and nights, and going to sleep, and having dreams within the dream etc... The hospital never came into it, until 'one day' literally, There was a huge white light, and I was suddenly totally disorentated on a hospital bed...

Then I discovered, (A few weeks later) that I had been clinically dead for nearly three minutes...

Believe what I say, or not as the case maybe... But I know that if I were to die tomorrow... I wouldn't be scared of death...

interesting experience, thanks for sharing

lhizy_05 02-21-2008 03:22 PM

i dont know what will happen.. all i know they gonna missed me... hahahaha:1orglaugh

CurrentlySober 02-21-2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 13813453)
interesting experience, thanks for sharing


No Problem..


Did I mention that I like poo? :winkwink:

notoldschool 02-21-2008 03:40 PM

not enough.

bronco67 02-21-2008 03:43 PM

I'm hoping that it's kind of like the movie Jacob's Ladder. You live an eternity in your mind for the last few seconds while your brain fizzles out.

Except without the whole seeing demons and horrifying imagery part.

V_RocKs 02-21-2008 04:20 PM

If there is a soul, why are human attitudes regulated by hormones like any other animal? Why do we suffer memory loss?

campimp 02-21-2008 04:36 PM

i think it just all ends. i think heaven is more or less if you are remembered as a good person in the minds of the people you left behind, afterall, your memory is pretty much the only thing that really continues of your life here, but as for your mind and soul, i think it just goes away

i dont believe in god, i think religion is basically just a way to control people and make them feel better about the fact that life goes by so fast and then its just gone. its pretty crazy to try to even imagine the world without me


having said all that.... i really hope i am wrong and there is something. how cool would it be to be able to talk with people that have died before us and be able to tell them everything we never did while they were here.

pretty much everyone i know that has someone special die on them always says there are so many things they wished they had said. i hope to get the chance

but i doubt it

Eva PSC 02-21-2008 04:54 PM

My grandma told me this story:

When she was a teenager, she and her mother agreed that who ever who dies first will come back to tell to the other how it is after death.

Her mother died when she was 13. EVERY single night after her death she would dream one and the same dream each time - that her mother is siting on the bottom of the dug out hole in the cemetery. She would ask her mother what is she doing there and the mother would say that she just has to be there and not explain any more. After a year of dreaming this same thing every night, she had a longer dream on the first anniversary of her mother's death - she dreamed the same thing as before, only this time her mother got up and walked out of the hole. She started explaining that life after death is the same like before death - "in our world, as in yours, we have three levels. One is very poor people who have hard life and no joy. Middle level is an average life with a little bit of everything. And the third level is very nice - everybody is happy, shining and peaceful with nothing to worry about". Then mother explained that she had gone to the middle level and is happy she is there.

My grandma has never ever dreamed about her mother again in her whole life.

Very weird story, I know. But makes some sense.

Rochard 02-21-2008 05:12 PM

I want 72 virgins waiting for me.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice (Post 13118693)
No idea....

I just hope I'm not reincarnated as a twinkie that is in a grocery store near you...

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphic...070302_big.jpg

You already are a twinkie!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-21-2008 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Headless (Post 13118685)
Ive been thinking about this for a long while now... Some say your brain still functions for some time after your heart stops. Do you think one is concious when this happens? Are thoughts still proccessing?

Do you believe in after life? What happens to the years of thoughts one has when the brain stops functioning?

Some thoughts Ive been having... What do you think?

The real question is why do people spend so much time worrying about it?
Whether there is an "Afterlife" or not does it really matter?

I think if there is an afterlife it's a kind of bonus to the whole living thing.
SO either way I am good to go and ready:)

yuu.design 02-21-2008 05:32 PM

that good question ! who knows :(

fujiko 02-21-2008 06:21 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SrKvzPXULME

WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW?? :thumbsup

joeman1 02-21-2008 06:26 PM

We go to heavan and have a party with all are loved ones!

ztik 02-21-2008 06:33 PM

I fucking love quantam mechanics

yeah I am a nerd

On the top of life after death. Only an idiot would think it existed

LA Crew 02-21-2008 06:34 PM

well.... u get buried
some religions propose theory that in 1st 40 days soul wonders around and then settles down but they dont say what happens then
i like to believe in afterlife :)

Huggles 02-21-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13121458)
There are so many explanations for that shit. A ghost should be the last thing you should come up with. But ofcourse its the most easy one and in case of death often a comforting one. We all want to see the ghost of a relative or friend who died.

Seriously, do some research instead of HOPING this ghost crap is true. Its pathetic really.



I don't post much on these forums much, but I had to jump in to say one thing:


I, too, believe that 99% of all paranormal shit is 100% fake.


I think the mind is very powerful and yes, can generate sensations, "see" things that aren't there, and "hear" things that aren't actually real.


However, I've actually asked to go out with several different paranormal groups in North America. I've been on probably about... 40-50 different "investigations". I must say that I believe almost every one of them was not actual hauntings. A couple of them even I had experiences at that I can not explain. Most Haunted, Paranormal State are 100% fake. I have my reservations about Ghost Hunters the TV show, but I believe those guys to be genuine and not fake anything.

Of the few odd things I can not explain, one was at a house where a supposedly pregnant woman was killed at. I was alone, not high, not drunk, stone sober, and I witnessed a black floating ball, about the size of a golf ball, come towards me, fly around me, go up some stairs and disappear.

I do say that religion is 110% bullshit.

VicD 02-21-2008 06:46 PM

When i die nothing happens

halfpint 02-21-2008 06:51 PM

I belive that when you die thats it, no after life just nothing
I also belive that a lot of people who expereince things like "I have been here before in another life" is caused from your ancestors DNA. We must all carry some DNA in the brain from long lost ancestors and even though you have not been to a place before your ancestors most prob have which triggers this feeling of "I have been here before"

Dirty F 02-21-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 13814396)
I don't post much on these forums much, but I had to jump in to say one thing:

Posts: 4,549

:helpme

videosc 02-21-2008 09:10 PM

Well I certainly never expected a thread like this on GFY. Very interesting comments. And I just added "Wakng Life" to my Netflix cue.

I don't have an answer to the question but I've always thought that a clue to life after death may be in our dreams. I've always wondered why we dream, why we need to go to sleep. Why would a god create beings that need to sleep? Wouldn't it be more efficient to keep us up all the time? What's the point, from an all-powerful creators perspective?

Maybe dreams are some kind of bridge to another existance? What if we're all in a dream right now and when we die we "wake up" to some other reality?

I also think that orgasms may hold a clue. Think of the absolute best orgasm you ever had... wasn't it like you left your body and went somewhere else for a moment?

Feelings like that, or the simple pleasure of the sun hitting your face on a warm day, or the taste of hot cocoa on a cold night... or the smile in your lovers eyes... can anything be better than that? Are we really in heaven right now but we don't realize it?

The idea of all this being tied to our brain is both scary and exciting because it implies that science will one day be able to keep brains active so we'd live forever, like those heads in the jars on Futurama.

Drake 02-21-2008 09:22 PM

You become one with the internets

Dirty F 02-21-2008 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videosc (Post 13814839)
Why would a god create beings that need to sleep?

Where the hell did you get the insane idea a god created that?


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