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crockett · 09-15-2007, 09:34 PM

I just watched the movie Alpha Dog, which was a pretty good movie. However in part of the movie, the 15 year old kid that ends up getting killed, well he strips butt ass naked and jumps in a pool with two 18 or 19 year old chicks. They show them getting into the action then imply that he fucked them both.

So basically they are getting away with implying that a 15 year old kid had sex with two 18 or 19 year old girls. Yet they fucking get a get out of jail free pass because it's a Hollywood movie.

Yet here in Pornland, if you take a legal 18 or even 22 year old girl and imply she's younger as in under 18, you get in a world of shit. So why does Hollywood get a double standard for doing the same thing that if we did it, would likely bring obscenity charges?

_mC_ · 09-15-2007, 09:37 PM

"We all agree.. great movie!"

nico-t · 09-15-2007, 10:28 PM

if it was a 15 year old girl..... well..... everybody loves 15 year olds.

After Shock Media · 09-15-2007, 10:31 PM

Cause they are hollywood.
PS they can even use and show underage nudity and get away with it.

Oh yeah even though they are competition to each other they get along and lobby very well. Sort of like how porn "families" would fight the law together before it was over ran by nerds and shortly there after money seekers with no ethics and sharing capabilities.

DBS.US · 09-15-2007, 11:10 PM

Pleasurepays · 09-15-2007, 11:12 PM

what is illegal about it? what is illegal about "implying" two kids have sex?

why do you think hardcore porn compares directly to a movie in theaters?

SPACE GLIDER · 09-15-2007, 11:17 PM

I don't know about Alpha Dog. None of the characters were likeable or even cool. They all seemed like pathetic kids trying to play cool. I didn't feel any sympathy for any of them. Not even the one who ... you know.

Doug E · 09-16-2007, 01:54 AM

american beauty i dont think was really her topless. check out the angle on that shot of her on the couch. the way i remember it was it was too unnatural a position to be real.

for fucked up shit u wonder how they get away with watch larry clarkes movie, Glen Park.

After Shock Media · 09-16-2007, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug E

american beauty i dont think was really her topless. check out the angle on that shot of her on the couch. the way i remember it was it was too unnatural a position to be real.

for fucked up shit u wonder how they get away with watch larry clarkes movie, Glen Park.

There are numerous movies with underage actresses showing skin. Trust me on this or I could go pull up at least 1 right now off the top of my head on IMBD or whatever its called where no body double was used.

AaronM · 09-16-2007, 02:16 AM

New series on Showtime called Californication.

Underage girl named "Mia" bangs David Duchovny in the first episode. They put that in there for a reason.

CarlosTheGaucho · 09-16-2007, 03:13 AM

Do they bust you if you're caught reading the Nabokov's novel "Lolita" and do they burn and censor the books in the states?

pornask · 09-16-2007, 04:06 AM

I think Brooke Shields was like 16 or something, when she played in Blue Lagoon and did the scene in the nude. She was definitely not an adult at the time, showed her boobs for millions to see and Hollywood got away with it...

AGS-17 · 09-16-2007, 04:11 AM

15 years girls !! nice) very sexy)

CarlosTheGaucho · 09-16-2007, 04:40 AM

It was discussed recently and thanks that it was confirmed as the basic right of the free artistic expression, how could you otherwise potray killing, drug abuse etc. those things are illegal too

V_RocKs · 09-16-2007, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I just watched the movie Alpha Dog, which was a pretty good movie. However in part of the movie, the 15 year old kid that ends up getting killed, well he strips butt ass naked and jumps in a pool with two 18 or 19 year old chicks. They show them getting into the action then imply that he fucked them both.

So basically they are getting away with implying that a 15 year old kid had sex with two 18 or 19 year old girls. Yet they fucking get a get out of jail free pass because it's a Hollywood movie.

Yet here in Pornland, if you take a legal 18 or even 22 year old girl and imply she's younger as in under 18, you get in a world of shit. So why does Hollywood get a double standard for doing the same thing that if we did it, would likely bring obscenity charges?

It is called ART...

headless ghost · 09-16-2007, 07:39 AM

because they are big time movie producers.
and you are a bottom feeder.
more money
better lawyers
wealthy investors
etc, etc, etc
its just the way it is.
if you legitimize porn too much it won't sell.
needs the sleaze factor to create a certain taboo to make it marketable.

crockett · 09-16-2007, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

New series on Showtime called Californication.

Underage girl named "Mia" bangs David Duchovny in the first episode. They put that in there for a reason.

Yea I know that one as well. I just like to know why they get away with it. Yet in the adult industry if you did the same, you would be very likely be charged with obscenity.

Take for instance the current case of the writer that's being charged with obscenity because she wrote about sex with underage kids. Hollywood is filled with it, but they get the "free" pass on the same stuff that would put us in jail.

CurrentlySober · 09-16-2007, 08:09 AM

yeah but it was also a true story.
Besides, you didnt actually see anything.

Zuzana Designs · 09-16-2007, 08:09 AM

I wondered the same thing when I watched it. I thought it was a pretty good movie. It always seems if it is a boy under age it's cool, but a girl and it's sooo bad...

Fletch XXX · 09-16-2007, 08:16 AM

cover art for Scorprions banned

banned Blind Faith cover

CurrentlySober · 09-16-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

cover art for Scorprions banned

banned Blind Faith cover

Intersting. So wahats the top one?
Is that scorpions as well?

Fletch XXX · 09-16-2007, 08:22 AM

Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy

CurrentlySober · 09-16-2007, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy

Cool. thanks for replying

crockett · 09-16-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner

yeah but it was also a true story.
Besides, you didnt actually see anything.

Well he did strip naked when he got in the pool, so yea he was naked in the movie, how old the actor was I have no clue, but in the movie he was playing the part of a 15 year old.

The fact you don't see anything isn't really the point. In adult if you did the same thing they did, you would likely be looking at jail time if you were implying one of your models was underage.

gooddomains · 09-16-2007, 08:51 AM

hollywood is not part of the porn industry

bronco67 · 09-16-2007, 09:39 AM

It's all about context. Alpha Dog is telling a story based on actual events. Porn is basically gratuitous.

This is so apples and oranges it ain't even funny.

Angie77 · 09-16-2007, 10:22 AM

Now I know why I didn't bother to see that movie.

crockett · 09-16-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

It's all about context. Alpha Dog is telling a story based on actual events. Porn is basically gratuitous.

This is so apples and oranges it ain't even funny.

I used the movie Alpha Dog as a simple example. The movie American Beauty wasn't based on a real story. The movie Poison Ivy wasn't based on a real story. Same as the example above with Californication..ect ect..

Yet all those films had ratings with "strong sexual content" yet used minors having implied sex with adults. So are you saying it's ok for a porn film to have actors/actresses pretending to be underage and having even implied sex with adults, as long as it tells a story?

See that is the point I'm getting at.. We have at this very moment a writer from the adult industry being charged with obscenity, just for written words. Yet at the very same time Hollywood gets away with the same BS and actually puts it on film.

CarlosTheGaucho · 09-16-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosBS

Do they burn Nabokov's Lolita novels in US because they are implying underage sex?

All right, I will try to make my point simple and leave out references to classic literary works:

HOLLYWOOD / NON ADULT = HAS the free speech rights granted

ADULT = HAS NOT the free speech rights granted

Steve Awesome · 09-16-2007, 12:03 PM

Hollywood has been impervious for years. Check it out -- 1938...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_Bride

MaDalton · 09-16-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornask

I think Brooke Shields was like 16 or something, when she played in Blue Lagoon and did the scene in the nude. She was definitely not an adult at the time, showed her boobs for millions to see and Hollywood got away with it...

have you seen Pretty Baby?

Brooke Shields is 13 in that and fully nude

Young · 09-16-2007, 12:08 PM

Get off the "Poor us" routine.

It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

NoWhErE · 09-16-2007, 12:11 PM

Maybe its because the Jews don't control porn like they do Hollywood...

crockett · 09-16-2007, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young

Get off the "Poor us" routine.

It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

poor you that you don't know how to use the internet yet..

bronco67 · 09-16-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

Get off the "Poor us" routine.

It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not.

Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference.

In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie.

Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Exactly...its all about CONTEXT. The snuff film analogy is perfect. Porn and cinema are 2 different things.

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	How does Hollywood get away with this shit? I just watched the movie Alpha Dog, which was a pretty good movie. However in part of the movie, the 15 year old kid that ends up getting killed, well he strips butt ass naked and jumps in a pool with two 18 or 19 year old chicks. They show them getting into the action then imply that he fucked them both. So basically they are getting away with implying that a 15 year old kid had sex with two 18 or 19 year old girls. Yet they fucking get a get out of jail free pass because it's a Hollywood movie. Yet here in Pornland, if you take a legal 18 or even 22 year old girl and imply she's younger as in under 18, you get in a world of shit. So why does Hollywood get a double standard for doing the same thing that if we did it, would likely bring obscenity charges? __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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Doug E Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 511	american beauty i dont think was really her topless. check out the angle on that shot of her on the couch. the way i remember it was it was too unnatural a position to be real. for fucked up shit u wonder how they get away with watch larry clarkes movie, Glen Park.

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pornask So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 253-233-241 Posts: 6,518	I think Brooke Shields was like 16 or something, when she played in Blue Lagoon and did the scene in the nude. She was definitely not an adult at the time, showed her boobs for millions to see and Hollywood got away with it...

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headless ghost Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 893	because they are big time movie producers. and you are a bottom feeder. more money better lawyers wealthy investors etc, etc, etc its just the way it is. if you legitimize porn too much it won't sell. needs the sleaze factor to create a certain taboo to make it marketable.

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Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Get off the "Poor us" routine. It's the same reason that murder in movies is legal....and Snuff Films are not. Hollywood implies the sex...it doesn't actually happen. If you're over the age of 10 years old you might understand the difference. In American Beauty it was about the guy with the mid life crisis. Alpha Dog was a true story. Poison Ivy was about the young femme fetale and the consequences. Even the controversial Lolita. In each one of those cases it fit the context of the movie. Poor us...poor porn. why does everyone pick on us. wahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh __________________ ★★★ Last edited by Young; 09-16-2007 at 12:10 PM..

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