Is that a fact?

Regardless, a TGP and blog will be checked for the first time at some point. Anyone posting explicit thumbs or blog content (including RSS feeds) is playing Russian Roulette at this point.

These webmasters, no matter how hard they try, will never obtain all of the ID's for the explicit content they are using. It's real easy to assume that your sponsors will hand over their ID's in your time of need, but don't count on the needed 100% success rate.

This whole fucking situation bothers me a lot. If "we" are being represented, how come we were not aware of this meeting? Why are we left in the dark beforehand. Are our "representatives" securing their safety from 2257 in these meetings while we are left to deal with this shit? 3 inspections this week, is that supposed to be taken as a threa or a warningt? While I am ratning, I just cannot fathom how idiotic and dense law makers can be when it comes to secondary producers. We do not create the content so why are we being targetted? They should go straight to the source. Simple as that or create a central database.

Seriously, why doesn't the FBI discuss this in a thead on GFY or possibly a different website which can be created to simply discuss tis situation and get the entire industry's opnion on solutions. Why the behind closed door meetings behind our backs. I guess our "comment period" didn't mean shit.

Yeah and after that the Canadian Mounties are gonna come inspect someone's records in New York :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The DOJ can't enforce American laws on non U.S. citizens, there will never be an overseas inspection.
It would be like a Mexican police officer pulling you over for speeding on the 405.

Yes that could be, but that's the question. Are they going to try to convict people on paper work violations, or are they going to actually try and combat CP.

IMHO I think this will turn into more of an assault on the industry via "records violations" rather than a "real" attempt to do what the law was intended to do.

So far all of the inspections that I have heard about, were on legit businesses with nothing that's really questionable. Why aren't they going after those "child modeling" sites, if they actually want to protect kids.

Remember, they didn't get Capone for his actual crimes.. They got him on tax evasion. One could easily look at this law, and see how it can very easily be used to go after people that make their list.

Just like obscenity cases, no real crime, but it's a way to go after guys they don't like. Being the govt doesn't have a good track record winning obscenity cases, well my bet is on them misusing the intent of 2257 records as a way to bust who they want.

I also think this is a way for the govt, to try and down size adult and push out the little guys. I'm sure they would rather deal with a handful of big companies rather than the thousands of little ones that are out there.

One sure way to push out the little guys, is by regulating them out of business.

Fuck the FBI! They should be chasing UFOs :thumbsup

Fuck the FBI.

Fuck Bush.

Fuck the southern baptists and bible-thumping fundamentalists.

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How in the hell do they choose from the millions of 1 man operations out there on who to inspect? Will they focus on bigger companies?

Fuck knows.

I think no one is going to get arrested for paperwork.It seems they have been using it as the cherry on top of the obscenity sundae. It would be very hard to get a jury to put someone away for 5 yrs because they werent in their office or they didnt cross reference to the 100th degree if the model is 29.

They vote in another republican in 2008,got a room for rent? lol

Well I just wonder with the law is on the books. Can local police dept's do their own invesigations? Is this a FBI only deal, or can local police dept's or DA's take it on their own to do records checks?

Seems this kinda stuff could easily be abused in more consertive areas if the local DA's and cops can go do their own thing.

If they do Ill give you a room here rent free Tony

if memory strikes me right ,they can bring local law enforcement with them. So you could get in theory congrats you passed and the local cop arrests you operating a porn business.

thank you :)

I think that a pretty distinguished group of people representing for us. Not sure how the invitation process went - the attorneys mentioned definitly have our best interests at heart.

This is why the statute itself has 4th amendment problems, not to mention the 1st and 5th amendment problems.

The problem of course, is that it will be very very expensive to challenge the law itself on constitutional grounds, and for the big players that could fund a case like that, it's a hell of a lot cheaper to keep the records in order. :2 cents:


Not to mention, it will be interesting to see what happens when a corporation has a violation, who do you throw in jail for that? The custodian of records? The photographer who did the shoot? The CEO?
Technically the stockholders own the company, you gonna throw them in jail?

Distinguished yes. Representative of the video and net side, not so much. Representative of the mom and pop establishment not at all.

Please also take note as written: (since you brought up attorneys)
Paul Cambria (representing LFP)
Sean Berrios (LFP)
Jeffrey Douglas (representing Red Light District and Smash Pictures)
Larry Schwarz (Red Light District)
and Greg Piccionelli (representing Digital Playground)

Please notice the word "representing".
Also anyone notice the lack of representative for the FSC?