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Old 08-23-2007, 02:58 PM   #1
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Six years since 911 and you still believe in fairytales

Well happy 911 everyone I hope you learned by now that Santa and the Tooth fairy are not real and Osama Bin Laden is long dead in an unmarked grave buried by his own soldiers in Dec 2004.
But you keep on believing in the vids sent on Halloween by the guy in the Osama costume and maybe get scared of terrorists with sticks then
I just want every god damn Republican to know that before you vote think on this!
The last time there was a president election only 33% of the country voted that means that your percentile in this great country is shit compared to the world!
I really dont think it matters anymore if you go waving your flags!
You send innocent people to Iraq and they come home brutally wounded or in a bag for what(freedom)? take a good look around our country.It is laughed at by millions of people who come hear illegally to exploit our economy wait no trillions a year!

And your fairy tale is over.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:00 PM   #2
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All of it is a fucking joke..
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I still think it's hilarious that a country with TWO OCEANS on either side and TWO DEFENSELESS COUNTRIES on its borders is THE MOST concerned about their defense and security.

C'mon. Who the fuck is going to attack. Even an established country has no chance going across the air, going across the water, or going from land.

Your biggest threat is what, N Korea sending a crazy-missle?
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:04 PM   #4
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Does this look like a joke?
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I still think it's hilarious that a country with TWO OCEANS on either side and TWO DEFENSELESS COUNTRIES on its borders is THE MOST concerned about their defense and security.

C'mon. Who the fuck is going to attack. Even an established country has no chance going across the air, going across the water, or going from land.

Your biggest threat is what, N Korea sending a crazy-missle?
Well havent you been following the news regarding russia re asserting itself after a 15 year break?

we are not in the stone age here, borders mean diddly squat.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:12 PM   #6
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Russia is a bully, no more. Bullies go after easy targets.

2002 stats

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United States of America 489.20
United Kingdom 38.40
France 29.50
Germany 24.90
Italy 19.40
Spain 8.40
Canada 7.40
Netherlands 6.60
Turkey 5.80
Norway 3.80

Those are the numbers. 2002. Think what it is today.

Yet the politicians are still SUCCESSFUL telling the public that they are "under attack" and they have "enemies who will stop at nothing until the US is destroyed" etc etc..

WHO is going to do the destroying?%!()% A bunch of fucking AK47 horse riding people who just want you OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY?!

Goddamn people are stupid.

PS: Factor in your $30bln in aid to Israel, and $20bln to Saudi as someone said here the other day... Look where that is on the list!
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As for Russia asserting itself, MAYBE THEY'RE GETTING SCARED TOO?!

Someone has to stand up to you bullies eventually

non-NATO countries:

Among non-NATO nations, Japan spent US$ 46.9 billion on military resources in 2003, The People's Republic of China, US$ 32.8 billion, and Russia, US$ 13 billion, (5%, 4%, and 1% of the world total, respectively).

All taken from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_budget
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Russia is a bully, no more. Bullies go after easy targets.

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United States of America 489.20
United Kingdom 38.40
France 29.50
Germany 24.90
Italy 19.40
Spain 8.40
Canada 7.40
Netherlands 6.60
Turkey 5.80
Norway 3.80

Those are the numbers. 2002. Think what it is today.

Yet the politicians are still SUCCESSFUL telling the public that they are "under attack" and they have "enemies who will stop at nothing until the US is destroyed" etc etc..

WHO is going to do the destroying?%!()% A bunch of fucking AK47 horse riding people who just want you OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY?!

Goddamn people are stupid.

PS: Factor in your $30bln in aid to Israel, and $20bln to Saudi as someone said here the other day... Look where that is on the list!
hey man im not after a ball slashing match or anything, im just saying what with nucleor weapons, borders are kind of pointless, i think about 8 countries have nucleor weapons, I guess the mexican border patrol can really stop them entering cant it.

money is justifyably well spent on defences. yes i agree america is rather steep, but hey I didnt vote, the americans did, so obviously this is what the majoirty want from their governement.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar..._United_States

For 2007, the budget was raised to a total of US$532.8 Billion.

Further, the Department of Energy will spend an additional $23.4 Billion during FY2007 for the development, maintenance and production of nuclear warheads.[4]

Also doesn't include RESEARCH.. *scary*
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infact i dont really give a fuck no more, life will go on and budgets will keep being spent, arguing on a message board wont do any good, I actully think that was the purpose of ripshit.

People vote their governements, if you arent happy with the results, next time vote for green peace and watch your country get bombed because others dont like your "way of life"

the world is like a can of worms that has happend, but i am sure the storm will ride out, just like all previous other storms.
so adios amigos
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Sorry you don't like the United States. And sorry everything is a conspiricy. And sorry you aren't Republican. And sorry for whatever else sucks in your life.

I guess it just sucks to be as smart as you.
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People like ripshit make the entire 9/11 truth movement look bad.

Just shutup already bro. Let people smarter then you handle this.
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There's no argument that the US alone has enough nukes already to blow up the world many times over, and have been able to for at least a decade or two.

The biggest problem I see with the whole thing is that a single country (in a world that's supposed to live in peace and harmony, just the way they want the streets of any country) has a "defense" budget that is more than 11x larger than second place, and clearly stirs shit halfway across the world by injecting $50bln dollars in weapons a year to a war-torn region.

Furthermore, the average American believes this is fine and dandy.

So if you lived in any other country on earth, how would you view that attitude?

Americans: Why do you need 12x the world's war budget? You have no scary neighbours even, and two oceans full of nuclear submarines, and skies full of planes, and the space full of satellites, all protecting you.
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Sure, point taken.. But is it 11.5x wrong?
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Does this look like a joke?
I was not referring to any of that. Simply stating that our government is a fucking joke.
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I still think it's hilarious that a country with TWO OCEANS on either side and TWO DEFENSELESS COUNTRIES on its borders is THE MOST concerned about their defense and security.

C'mon. Who the fuck is going to attack. Even an established country has no chance going across the air, going across the water, or going from land.

Your biggest threat is what, N Korea sending a crazy-missle?
Our biggest threat is another 9/11, another asymmetric warfare/ terrorist attack.

The next one will probably be a dirty bomb or a nuke, unfortunately.

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When will americans realise that these people dont give a SHIT about your safety.
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Sure, point taken.. But is it 11.5x wrong?
Naw man, I was cracking on the 'source' not the point.

But I do disagree with you about Russia. Don't kid yourself, its a sleeping bear. The aren't without their nukes and while people might think the KGB of days gone by is no more, they've shown us they aren't without their intelligence gathering skills either.
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Our biggest threat is another 9/11, another asymmetric warfare/ terrorist attack.

The next one will probably be a dirty bomb or a nuke, unfortunately.

They did a damn good job in brainwashing you. I suspect this will happen: first another false flag attack, then the collapse of the US economy, martial law and finally all power to the president.
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Our biggest threat is another 9/11, another asymmetric warfare/ terrorist attack.

The next one will probably be a dirty bomb or a nuke, unfortunately.

Didn't Katrina kill way more people than 9/11? What was the response time?

Haven't way more people died in Iraq?

If this is really about saving Americans lives, why is it okay to spend them?

Why don't you ever accept and deal with any of the reasons why they attack you? It's very clear the US has a long history of meddling, which is why they attack you in the first place.

If you really want them to stop attacking, why don't you take your hands off their neck?
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Naw man, I was cracking on the 'source' not the point.

But I do disagree with you about Russia. Don't kid yourself, its a sleeping bear. The aren't without their nukes and while people might think the KGB of days gone by is no more, they've shown us they aren't without their intelligence gathering skills either.
Man, in the same way you KNOW your country is spying, you should also KNOW that Russia is spying. Why is it okay for you to do it, but not them?

And if Russia is a sleeping bear, then the USA is a rabid bear currently on a rampage.

But that's okay I mean, it's only the USA, it's not scary Russia!

The enemy you know, right? Ask someone from Poland if they're more scared of Russia or the USA.. Probably USA.

The same way you swallow your own phlegm, and are disgusted by someone elses.
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The next one will probably be a dirty bomb or a nuke, unfortunately.

And occupying foreign countries is what greatly increases that threat
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Man, in the same way you KNOW your country is spying, you should also KNOW that Russia is spying. Why is it okay for you to do it, but not them?

And if Russia is a sleeping bear, then the USA is a rabid bear currently on a rampage.

But that's okay I mean, it's only the USA, it's not scary Russia!

The enemy you know, right? Ask someone from Poland if they're more scared of Russia or the USA.. Probably USA.

The same way you swallow your own phlegm, and are disgusted by someone elses.
I think you misunderstood what I meant. My point is that while the USA's budget is 11x (give or take) all others, it doesn't mean that nobody else is up to no good.

I'm not American, I'm Canadian (insert tinpot navy and army jokes here, thanks) and from a moral standpoint I totally disagree with the Iraq war. As far as i am concerned they should have focused on Afghanistan and wandered through to Pakistan to clean up the rest.

Its pretty obvious where the terrorists are and who supports them. And sadly I have to acknowledge that its a lot easier and safer to kill people in their own region than have them come over here (North America). If you think about it, its a hell of a lot easier for anti-Americans in the middle east to cause a ruckus in Iraq by killing soldiers than it is for them to hop on a plane and kill civilians in the USA.
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Why don't you ever accept and deal with any of the reasons why they attack you? It's very clear the US has a long history of meddling, which is why they attack you in the first place.
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buying into the republican vs democrat facade makes you a retard.

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You have to think to yourself, how would people halfway across the world be so anti-American in the first place? What could be the reasons? They have tons of other bordering countries they could beef with. Why the USA?

There lies the answer to stopping another 9/11.
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Just shutup already bro. Let people smarter then you handle this.
Your digging into the wrong hole man.
Your right let them spread the messages of deceit that our Government brings and Ill shut up when Dead babies arent throw into my dads dreams from Vietnam you fuck!
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You have to think to yourself, how would people halfway across the world be so anti-American in the first place? What could be the reasons? They have tons of other bordering countries they could beef with. Why the USA?

There lies the answer to stopping another 9/11.
Because they hate the USA's freedom.... They would like to live in a trailer park, but they have none ...\
They would like to buy contaminated goods at Walmart, but they have none...
They would like to have daughters like Paris Hilton, but they have no Hilton's ...

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Because they hate the USA's freedom.... They would like to live in a trailer park, but they have none ...\
They would like to buy contaminated goods at Walmart, but they have none...
They would like to have daughters like Paris Hilton, but they have no Hilton's ...

....
pure 100% jealousy, bingo. They all want what I have and since they can't figure out how to be like me they would rather try and kill me and anyone else like me or trying to be like me.

that is the bottom line, if you disagree with that you are fooling yourself.
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pure 100% jealousy, bingo. They all want what I have and since they can't figure out how to be like me they would rather try and kill me and anyone else like me or trying to be like me.

that is the bottom line, if you disagree with that you are fooling yourself.
I agree but I disagree with this!
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Because they hate the USA's freedom.... They would like to live in a trailer park, but they have none ...\
Thats supposed to be the American dream?
To live in a fucking trailor park and use a chemical toilet?


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Sure we do trade with China and Walmart is funded by this!
Fuck Hillary Clinton Established it for us dont you remember back in the early 90s?
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They would like to have daughters like Paris Hilton, but they have no Hilton's ...
God that bitch would be a disrace to the king of Sodom who the fuck would want a skank ass drug and disease infested slut for a daughter?
Come on I like cheeseburgers but if you told me the burger was spit in at the drive in window would you expect me to eat it?

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pure 100% jealousy, bingo. They all want what I have and since they can't figure out how to be like me they would rather try and kill me and anyone else like me or trying to be like me.

that is the bottom line, if you disagree with that you are fooling yourself.
What? Do you really think this?

The biggest propaganda and lie spread by the US is this above statement. Think for a few seconds man. Have you ever considered strapping a bomb to your chest and killing as many people as you can because you saw a guy who had more money than you do?

It seems ridiculous, doesn't it? It's because it is ridiculous, and it's not about this at all.

WHICH country "idolizes" the FREEDOMS the US citizen has???!@ hahahahaha.. Do you think us Canadians up here are oooohing and aahhhhhing at how "free" you are down there? Let's examine.

To work anywhere, you have to take a pee test. We don't.
When my child needs brain surgery I can't afford, I take him to the hospital.
Our black kids are at home playing Xbox. Yours are in jail.
We don't have slums, or streets full of boarded up houses.
We don't live in fear of breaking laws and going to jail - for things like smoking a joint.
A lot less three letter gov't organizations.

The list goes on and on.. It's probably the #1 reason many Americans are fleeing to Canada as we speak.

Back on topic.. The arabs do NOT care what kind of car you drive. They care that Americans killed their grandfather, their father, their brother and uncles. You've fucked with their families. When they see a soldier - he's an American soldier. It's very clear to see the US involvement timeline for 50+ years.

Think!
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:50 PM   #40
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you have a point man.........
all i can say is vote wisely.........
peace not war.........
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Russia is a bully, no more. Bullies go after easy targets.

2002 stats

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United States of America 489.20
United Kingdom 38.40
France 29.50
Germany 24.90
Italy 19.40
Spain 8.40
Canada 7.40
Netherlands 6.60
Turkey 5.80
Norway 3.80

Those are the numbers. 2002. Think what it is today.

Yet the politicians are still SUCCESSFUL telling the public that they are "under attack" and they have "enemies who will stop at nothing until the US is destroyed" etc etc..

WHO is going to do the destroying?%!()% A bunch of fucking AK47 horse riding people who just want you OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY?!

Goddamn people are stupid.

PS: Factor in your $30bln in aid to Israel, and $20bln to Saudi as someone said here the other day... Look where that is on the list!



i love that Australia does not make the list

what the hell is up with that?
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Sorry you don't like the United States. And sorry everything is a conspiricy. And sorry you aren't Republican. And sorry for whatever else sucks in your life.

I guess it just sucks to be as smart as you.
This is why you cant talk about this stuff with most Americans. Thay all think it's an attack on their entire country and all their people, when in fact it is about the government and the people's tendency to turn the other cheek and carry on like everything is just fine that pisses the world off.
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its all very scary and sad.I blame alot of it on big corporate media, they sold the war to the american people.Not just fox all of them.
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I have to aggree the British and American governments feed us so much propaganda, and the sad truth is a lot of people belive it, Both the US and UK meddle in other countries affairs and that is one of the reasons we are such hated nations, You can not expect nations from the Arab worlds to live as we do, and the worst thing you can do is force it upon them, This war in Iraq will not go away and the people of Iraq will not just give up, This is gonna end up like Israel and Phalestin, Its gonna go on for a long time, How would you react if your country was invaded, Im damm sure you would not just sit back and say ..OH well we have been invaded lets go and have a burger. Its the same for Afganistan, the conflict there will never end and more and more people "civilians and soldiers" just keep getting killed, its so damm stupid...and it looks like Iran is next on Americas list..
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America needs to end it's two party system, it's just too easily corruptible. Throw in a third, unconnected party that has a real chance to win, and a strong leader people can get behind. Then the other two parties true colours would show.

I also don't believe they just hand over the country every 4 years, I mean what other corporation would do that? Plus you see when it all comes out they do the same shit..
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This is why you cant talk about this stuff with most Americans. Thay all think it's an attack on their entire country and all their people, when in fact it is about the government and the people's tendency to turn the other cheek and carry on like everything is just fine that pisses the world off.
Not at all. It's kind of like kids at school constantly calling your dad an asshole. They might be right, but you get tired of hearing it all the time. The same comments over and over, you just get tired of hearing it. That's all.

I'm pretty sure we can grab all the threads regarding 9/11, or Bush, or the war and you all say the exact same thing over and over again. Just gets old dude.
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Well we have Kanda, false flag accusations we're just an "Illumanti!" cry away from complete and total common sense melt down in here.
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