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Old 09-10-2007, 04:02 AM   #1
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Anybody know anything about lcd tv's?

I'm really wondering what he different between a 1500 and 2500 dollar lcd tv is.

When i look in the stores most models they sell are in the 1500 range, a few cheaper which look like crap and a bunch like 1k more expensive. Whats the reason for that?
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:29 AM   #2
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someone give Franck a reply or else he will whine in 2 weeks that he bought a bad one
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Old 09-10-2007, 05:29 AM   #3
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Be careful what you buying, beacuse most of lcd tv have horrible quality of view compared to standard tv's.You should do trial before buying tv.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:09 AM   #4
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someone give Franck a reply or else he will whine in 2 weeks that he bought a bad one
Youre an idiot.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:19 AM   #5
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One of the biggest things causing the price difference (besides size) is going to be the tv's resolution.

720p TV's will be lower priced. 1080p will be the most expensive. 1080i's will be slightly lower than 1080p.

You also want to look at the contrast ratio of each tv.. the more the better. Over 10k is good. A lot of plasma's and LCD's have trouble displaying black too, so be sure to check out how they look in the stores.
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Old 09-10-2007, 06:19 AM   #6
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Youre an idiot.
coming from you, I guess that's a compliment
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:57 AM   #7
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Man I'm having a hard time picking a good Plasma. Its a lot harder than just picking a tv. I had a 50inch Samsung delivered and it was faulty so its back now. I need to pick a different tv.

Everyone over here tells me not to touch LCD if you are going for 40inch or bigger.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:18 AM   #8
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1080i resolution is about all you need. As said, the more expensive ones are probably 1080p and then some will be more expensive just because of the brand name. Also figure in that when they are on display in the store they are probably playing a DVD, maybe even an HD DVD, and use expensive high end cables. That is why you see less difference in the picture at the store but when you get it home you may see a marked difference in picture quality unless you run the same setup.

I'd also recommend making sure it has at least 2 HDMI inputs.
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In addition to the 720p/1080i/1080p differences, some are "standard" LCD, and some are DLP (Digital Light Projection).

I have a 1080p DLP LCD 50" from Samsung that rocks. I love this TV - best I've ever owned.

These are refurbished prices: http://www.nextag.com/samsung-hl_-_s5087w/search-html
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One of the biggest things causing the price difference (besides size) is going to be the tv's resolution.

720p TV's will be lower priced. 1080p will be the most expensive. 1080i's will be slightly lower than 1080p.

You also want to look at the contrast ratio of each tv.. the more the better. Over 10k is good. A lot of plasma's and LCD's have trouble displaying black too, so be sure to check out how they look in the stores.
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I'd also recommend making sure it has at least 2 HDMI inputs.
Why is that?
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Old 09-10-2007, 10:30 AM   #12
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Check the features, you want to compare the pixel count / resolution and make sure it's HD Ready. Some you have to get an HD Tuner for.

I got a really good deal on a 42" LCD from circuit city a few years back. It's some off brand, a "Norcent"? I also had to drive like an hour and a half away to get the thing but I only dropped around $850 and I've got no complaints.

For the livingroom I went with a Philips ambilight plasma, so I guess that ballances out my cheapness. I've only had it like 6 months, but it is AWESOME.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:41 PM   #13
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No need for more than a single HDMI as HDMI switches are inexpensive these days.

As for whoever said Plasmas can't display blacks that's simply not true. You'll find LOTS of inaccurate info about plasmas but truth is it offers one of the best pictures available until SED comes out and becomes more affordable and widely available.

I have two 50" plasmas (as well as several other types of displays currently and in the past) and love them both. The picture is absolutely amazing on them and colors are very accurate and contrast is great.

Don't take my word for it though. For more information than you'll ever need check out avsforum.com as it has people who eat sleep and shit home A/V stuff. Do lots of research (not from anyone wearing a uniform either) and look at all the options yourself as in the end you're the one watching it so all that matters is what you like.
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Old 09-10-2007, 11:59 PM   #14
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i just got a Panasonic 50" full HD plasma and it rocks.. even on SD it looks pretty nice.. but hooked it up to a blue ray dvd player and it's fantastic
the 50" Panasonic got "best plasma award 2007"
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:28 AM   #15
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I'm really wondering what he different between a 1500 and 2500 dollar lcd tv is.
$1000...
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:12 AM   #16
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One of the biggest things causing the price difference (besides size) is going to be the tv's resolution.

720p TV's will be lower priced. 1080p will be the most expensive. 1080i's will be slightly lower than 1080p.

You also want to look at the contrast ratio of each tv.. the more the better. Over 10k is good. A lot of plasma's and LCD's have trouble displaying black too, so be sure to check out how they look in the stores.
Contrast ratio for TV is overrated and useless. There is no standard on determining what the actual contrast ratio of a TV is and most TV makers way of determining it is dubious at best.

Even if contrast ratios could be trusted 10K contrast ratio is not needed. I guess if you buy at least a 50 inch TV sit within 8-10 feet from it, have black walls and carpeting, no windows and watch TV in complete darkness it might make a difference. Look at it this way when you go to the movies at best you can tell a difference of 3000:1 contrast ratio. Most people at home have at least some light on when watching TV which makes the maximum contrast detection ability of the eye even lower.

The best way to see which TV has the best picture is to actually SEE them in operation. This can be hard in a places like wal-mart which is usually brightly lit and thus makes it hard to notice differences in contrast ratios of the different tvs. Also places like wal-mart tend not to have the TVs set correctly so one can actually look worse, but actually has a better picture, but the idiot making $6 an hour hasn't a clue on how to adjust the settings correctly. Also when viewing an HDTV in a store make sure you view it the distance you're actually going to be viewing it at home.
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not sure of the correct terminology but the angle that the screen can be viewed at also makes it better and more expensive. ie. if you are standing off to the side of the screen you can still see it is more expensive than if you can't see the picture.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:32 AM   #18
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Why is that?
You'll need one for your DVD player and probably another one for your Cable/Satelite Provider. You may also need another one for any games consoles. I could be doing with 3 HDMI slots as I'll have dvd, cable and a PS3 hooked up to it.
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You'll need one for your DVD player and probably another one for your Cable/Satelite Provider. You may also need another one for any games consoles. I could be doing with 3 HDMI slots as I'll have dvd, cable and a PS3 hooked up to it.

I have this receiver and it has 2 HDMI in and one out. I use my PS3 as my dvd player and have a HD cable
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:53 AM   #20
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$1000...
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just buy 1 before the world bans them like UK is trying...


i have a 42" panasonic plasma, 30soething sharp Aquos, 50" pioneer elite and 19" LG....my pioneer is the bomb and so is my panasonic. not happy with sharp at all after 6 months it looks shitty and their customer service sux. They basically are blaming that i hooked it up wrong...lol yea ok.

a lot of reports and magazines claim panasonic is best buy for the money...
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:57 AM   #21
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I find the cheaper LCD's have crappy black levels. They tend to look more like dark grays. I have a Philips 32 inch LCD and the black levels are horrible. I also have a 26 inch Samsung that I purchased before the Philips, and it looks a lot better. I just bought the Philips because it was cheap at the time and I needed another set.

LCD definitely doesn't compare picture-wise to my DLP set, but I can't hang DLPs on my bedroom walls, so that is the trade-off.

I also calibrate my TV's using Video Essentials DVD, so I know I am trying to compare apples to apples.

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In addition to the 720p/1080i/1080p differences, some are "standard" LCD, and some are DLP (Digital Light Projection).

I have a 1080p DLP LCD 50" from Samsung that rocks. I love this TV - best I've ever owned.

These are refurbished prices: http://www.nextag.com/samsung-hl_-_s5087w/search-html
DLP and LCD are two totally different types of sets. DLP is still a rear projection design. I have a Samsung DLP as well, best picture I have ever seen!
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I just got rid of a philips plasma that I had nothing but problems with. I got this LG 47" LCD bad mother. Love the pic, way better than the philips.

http://us.lge.com/products/model/det...7LC7DF.jht ml
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DLP and LCD are two totally different types of sets. DLP is still a rear projection design. I have a Samsung DLP as well, best picture I have ever seen!
hehe - you are of course absolutely correct. I don't know why I was thinking DLP was a different form of LCD. The stores tend to group them together, I suppose..

Do you have this one? http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do

I love the thing!
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hehe - you are of course absolutely correct. I don't know why I was thinking DLP was a different form of LCD. The stores tend to group them together, I suppose..

Do you have this one? http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Samsu...oductDetail.do

I love the thing!
I have this one:
http://www.nextag.com/hls7178/search-html

Definitely a great set.

Here's a pic of it in my loft / office with some COD2 running on the XBox.

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Don't worry about HDMI ports as there are switches that can be had cheaply. Sore it's nice to have but don't let it determine if you buy a monitor or not. Most people feed through an audio receiver too and you'll want one with video switching anyway. These days most will have at least two anyway.

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Here's a pic of it in my loft / office with some COD2 running on the XBox.
Have you played COD4 yet? I should post up pics of how it looks in my theater. I have a 110" HD theater in the basement as well as two 50" plasmas upstairs. Halo nights are a blast at my place.
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