Shoudlnt you be out ripping off the lottery commission or taking casinos for some coin?

I think we got a Rainman here!

LOL... Actually, I used this method in the WA State Lottery for 4 weeks straight, and got it to where I hit 4 of the 6 numbers twice in a row. Then I started going number crazy, and stopped doing it. :)

it's 1/1000. slackor is correct. go back to school peeps and dont think so hard.

The day of the year would only come in to play if they didn't draw every day. So, for instance if they only drew a winner on one random day during the year. In which case the odds would be much higher, but are you more likely to roll as 7 then 11 at 8:45am or 7:11am... It maybe odd, but the odds are still only 1/1000 on 9/11.

TarPy

So the chance of flipping a coin twice a day every day, and getting heads on one of the Sept 11th flippings is 1:1460?

I won!

DynaMite

All you 1:1000 responders, take the time to read the thread next time.

Noone said jack about the regular odds, only when factoring in the date...

Cuz noone cares about what the odds are on a regular day. =)

Actually, it's 1:2920. If you flip twice everyday. What most people don't realize is that, odds "in a perfect world" scenerio, do indeed follow simple calculations. However, as almost anyone will tell you, we are not in a perfect world.

Consider this:
In the lottery, the balls are thrown into a machine. Supposedly, each ball is checked for imperfections etc... via a balancing machine. THEN, they take these supposedly "perfect" balls, and throw them into a box that blows them around, and pull them out 1 by 1.

Now, wind blowing balls around is not mathmatical. Yet, the odds for actually winning a pick 6 Lotto jackpot are calculated on this "perfect world" scenerio, stricly based in mathmatics. They do not calculate variable wind velocity, nor do they calculate the size of the box.

continued...

Please tell me you did not just say that if I flip a coin every day twice a day, I only have a 1:2920 chance of getting heads on one of the flippings on Sept 11th.

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So, to answer your question... Have you ever flipped a coin only twice, and gotten two heads or two tails??

Odds are simply calculating the "Most Likely" outcome. The factors that you calculate GREATLY affect the prediction.

If you were to say that there is a 1:2 chance that flipping a coin twice a day for 365 days, your odds are the same on the 365th day as they were on the 1st day... it would simply be ludicrous.

Because... If you flip a coin twice a day... Are you using the same coin? After 730 flips, the coin will inevitably begin to "wear" in some manner or another... If any part of that coin is "imperfect" it will change the odds completely, and favor one side or the other.

So, I guess all I'm saying is that, odds and chance are imperfect. Typically people calculate odds strictly by the mathmatics, and don't apply "real-world" physics and plain old logic to the calculations.

My original post to this topic was only trying to depict, that a simple 1:1000 calculation can be MORE accurate by adding additional factors to the equation.

Anyhow, that's all for now! :)

:1orglaugh
Now I know why casinos and lotteries make so much profit .
It's 1/1000 .
:winkwink:

voodoo.. you should read 12 clicks' "Instinctive Gambling.." :)

if it's drawn twice a day, there would be a 1 in 500 chance of it occuring each day.

You are fucked in the head.

i agree with Voodoo

Mathematic Odds are not allways right, it depends on everything...

ok i'm going to the casino now...

:)

:) Mensa didn't think so.

The stupidity of others really bothers me sometimes. I don't know why, but it does.

I seriously can not believe there are people who think the odds of 911 coming up in the NY lottery last night were anythinkg other than 1:1000. What I think is funny is how they are all saying "much higher," but none of them have actually calculated these mythical odds.

(And for the record, if there were 2 drawings in NY yesterday, which someone alluded to earlier, then the odds of 911 coming up in either of them were only 1:500)

Lottery officials picked 9-1-1 so they would get tons free advertising on all the local news!!!

I love how people freak out over stupid, pointless things - do you realize how many billions of events go on each and every day? The fact that one of them is coincidental, and happens to "reflect" some event is no big deal...

I agree 100% - This isn't brain surgery - there are 1000 different outcomes - all equally likely.

If you really think 720,000:1 or something else is the answer - what are the other 719,999 options that could have happened?

no doubt. one of the funniest things i've ever read on gfy. talk about poor math skills.

Too true: It could have been drawn in DC - what about flight numbers, or 666 [showing something about terrorism] or 777 came up [showing god is watching over all of us]. There are a bunch of different things that could have happened.

This is similar to those that think the cross breams that were found in the WTC wreakage were some kind of massage from god. The fact that they are CALLED CROSSBEAMS - emphasis on cross apparently doesn't mean much.

What if it happened last year on 9-11?

Yes, it's 1:1000 chance - the fact that it was done twice in the same day is doesn't cut the odds in half though.

That's 1:1000 for that state...twice that day...there are 50 states...X number of countries (not sure how many have a lottery) with god only knows how many cites / states / provinces playing a 3-ball, 10-number lottery.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were at least 1,000 of them around...bringing the odds to 1:1. If some foreign country pulled that, would you guys be like "HOLY SHIT THEY GOT 9-1-1 THEY'RE GOING TO ATTACK US NEXT! BUSH NEEDS TO ACT QUICK!"

That's a possibility of 1:1 with LOTTERY NUMBERS. Do you realize how man hundreds and hundreds, possibly millions or billions, of events that go on daily in this world that could eventually cause something coincidental with this event? Wow...stupidity, uneducation, and whatever the hell else amaze me sometime.

Good lord people!!! The original question was WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT 9,1,1 WOULD COME UP ON 9/11...... NOT WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF 9,1,1 COMING UP!!!!!! If you can't read posts in their entirety and follow threads.... Then don't post your idiotic comments about them!!!!

Let me make something very clear to all of you who didn't get past the 7th grade math....

WHEN YOU CALCULATE ODDS OF SOMETHING HAPPENING ON A PARTICULAR DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY MUST BE ADDED TO THE EQUATION... OTHERWISE YOU ARE ONLY CALCULATING THE ODDS OF SOMETHING HAPPENING. GOT IT???? IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO!!!

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.... The other 719,999 options are that 3,2,1 would come up on 9/11, or 5,8,7 would come up on 9/10, or 6,1,5 would come up on 10/15!!!!!!!! DO YA GOT IT NOW??????????????

Mensa's really gone downhill. I blame it on rap music.

There are a total of 10 numbers and 3 balls:
10 x 10 x 10 = 1000

Now, let's say there is only 1 drawing ever.
For this drawing there is a 1:1000 chance that 9,1,1 will come up.

These odds do not change. They are the same everyday, every drawing.
There are 2 drawings everyday (Which I now realize is irrelevant).

I need to make a correction to an earlier calculation... it was made in haste:
The original question was, "What are the odds that 9,1,1 would come up on 9/11"...

Earlier, my calculation was for the question "What are the odds that 9,1,1 would come up on the second drawing on 9/11?"...

So, I withdraw my answer to that, as I was incorrect....

Please read continuation.....

So, let's answer the REAL question:
Now, the odds are 1:1000 on any given drawing, on any given day. And YES, some of you are correct that
if the question was "What are the odds that 9,1,1 would come up?"... You are absolutely correct.

However, we are dealing with a specific day in question. The odds are a bit different:
1000 x 365 days: = 365,000

The odds of 9,1,1 coming up on the specific day of 9/11 are:
1:365,000

That's all folks! :)

And sorry for saying someone had an idiotic comment... You're not idiotic... just misinformed. :)

Ok, dude.... if you are so sure about this, why don't you put your money where your mouth is?

You say the odds of 911 coming up in a single drawing yesterday (on 9/11) were 1:720,000, right? So by your logic, the odds of 912 coming up in a random three digit drawing today would be the same - 1:720,000.

So, here is what I propose. You be the "house" and I'll be the "gambler." If 912 should only come up once in 720,000 drawings today, you should make a KILLING if you pay me at 100,000:1 odds. Right? I mean, theoretically, after 720,000 drawings, you would win 719,999 of them and lose just one. So, if we bet $1 pert drawing, you would win $719,999 and pay out $100,000 (on the one you lost), netting you nearly $620,000.

Damn! You're gonna be rich!!!!!!

So, let's do it. I must be CRAZY to take this bet at only 100,000:1 odds, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

So, to make sure everything is fair, we will use a random number generator.... maybe www.random.org if that's cool with you. Whatever. Doesn't matter to me.

And then we will start drawing numbers. Every time 912 doesn't come up, I will pay you $1. And then we will draw again. And again, and again, and again. I'll play all day long, as long as you want, and I will keep GLADLY handing you $1 bills every time 912 doesn't come up. But as soon as 912 does come up - yes, today, on 9/12 (odds - 720,000:1 according to you), you have to pay me $100,000.

Sound good? Ready to play? Let's do it! Daddy needs a new pair of shoes!

You're assuming there is only one drawing a year, and the date of the drawing is random.

I need a smiley for banging my head on my computer table...

You are so funny. Sad, but funny.

Ok, to ammend my pervious post, since the odds are now 365,000:1, I won't make you pay me $100,000 when 912 comes up.... I'll only make you pay me $50,000. And I will continue to pay you $1 every time 912 doesn't come up.

You have to admit, that's a pretty fair offer. You're going to be RICH!!!

Sound good?

Please stop helping this poor sap. Let me take his money first.

the odds are always 50/50. either i will fart, or i wont.

*impatiently awaiting new pair of shoes*

ok... here's what we've got to look at:

1. Before the lottery drawing last night, What's the probability that 9-1-1 will be picked? Answer: 1/(10*10*10) = one out of a thousand. This is a standard probability calculation, since there are 10 choices for each digit.

2. Now not every date can be represented by a pick-three lottery, like October 15. But you could ask, what's the chance that sometime in September a pick-three lottery will match up with the date (assuming the numbers are drawn every day). This is a much larger probability. For a 30-day month, it's about 3%. Related: What's the chance that some time in the first 9 months you get a lottery number that matches the date. Assuming, say, 270 days in the first 9 months this probability would jump up to to about 24%.

3. Suppose that there are 50 pick-three lotteries in all 50 states. What's the chance that at least one of them came up with 9-1-1 last night: about 5%

4. What's the chance that, given that a horrific event takes place in a particular state, the lottery in that state comes up with the same date on the year anniversary? That's a much harder probability to calculate and probably not possible to assign a number to. But it would most certainly be much smaller than the 1 out of 1,000 figure, which makes one very suspicious about the result.

--this from a head of probability and odds at a university...

Lets hope the odds are in my favor, that I wont be around when you do

Voodoo - are you taking my bet or what??? Come on dude... this will be EASY money for you!

I mean, today is 9/12. As you have said repeatedly, the odds of drawing three digits equal to today's date are astronomical (365,000:1 in your most recent post, I believe)!

Come on.... let's play!

nice :thumbsup

*sigh*

Looks like no payday for TeraBabes.

haven't had time to read all the replies !

the odds of 9-1-1 coming up today are ..................

2-1000 as there is 2 drawings each day at 1-1000 odds for each drawing !

shouldn't have taken "most" ppl more then a minute to figure out
:winkwink:

If you want to get a laugh AND feel the overwhelming urge to bang your head against your desk, read the posts in this thread.

"Priceless."

Suck me, I was thinking yearly fuckin lottery.

But please, bang your head against your desk alll ya... want...

Sugah.