XBIZ reports on Piracy Meeting Last Night In Los Angeles ((LINK)) - GoFuckYourself.com

seeric · 09-06-2007, 02:48 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/83798

UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. ? A diverse group of adult industry members gathered in a conference room at the Universal Sheraton hotel Wednesday night to discuss the growing threat of piracy. The meeting, attended by approximately 75 people, succeeded in creating an open dialogue and saw the seeds planted for the creation of a new anti-piracy organization.

Organized by Shane?s World who hired a professional moderator to keep the roundtable flowing smoothly, attendees found much value in getting key players in one room to identify the remedies ? legal or otherwise ? that content producers and copyright holders could take to protect their works.

Resulting from the meeting was the formation of an ad-hoc advisory board that meets next week to crystallize ideas and suggestions that came from the meeting. The group, comprised of content producers, is going to begin the process of strategizing and setting some ?hard and fast? rules for the organization on paper.

While the meeting was intended to function as the first step to start discussions on an industry-wide response to piracy, it wasn?t intended as a problem-solving session but rather the first in a series of brainstorming sessions designed to formalize a response to the threat that has the support of key content producers and other members of the business.

?I didn?t come to the meeting with any preconceived expectations, because frankly, I didn?t know exactly what it was supposed to accomplish, but I knew it was important to attend and whatever winds up coming out of this important first step I want to be a part of,? Falcon Foto President Jason Tucker told XBIZ after the discussion wrapped. ?Ultimately, we may not get together as an entire industry, but the people that attended tonight, I believe, can make an impact and a difference. That?s why I?m here.?

Tucker?s company has filed numerous successful lawsuits against copyright infringers over the past couple years and he expressed relief that other companies might join him in the fight to aggressively police their intellectual copyrights and content from piracy.

?We know what the problem is. This meeting was a collective meeting of the minds to see what steps we could take to combat it on a big scale,? Tucker said.

Many attendees targeted the Internet and torrent sites as a huge problem because of how fast and widespread illegally pirated content gets distributed. One prevailing feeling was if through legal redress torrent sites get shut down, there will be new ones popping up the next day. The Internet presents a global problem not easily solved.

Noted industry attorney Gregory Piccionelli told XBIZ that a prudent way to stymie offending sites is to go after their record keeping ? something his firm has done successfully.

?I believe that if this ad-hoc group is set up the right way, it can attract talent; lawyers who will take cases on contingency because we will have an entity that is recognized and means business,? Piccionelli said. ?There is no such group like this yet for producers of adult content. My belief is that we have to set something like that up here and we are on our way to doing that.?

Airek, director of Internet operations for Shane?s World, who was integral in the roundtable?s formation said that he was going to begin work on AntiPiracyBoard.com, a website for the industry to use to report content theft. The board is going to be used to timestamp infringement with screenshots along with companies whose advertisements appears next to unauthorized content.

?Ultimately, we need to show all content thieves and pirates out there that we?re willing to put our time and money into an organization that is going to protect our content from being ripped off,? Airek told XBIZ. ?Coming off the success of this meeting, I have faith we?re purposely moving in that direction.?

Attendees included Hush Hush Entertainment's Andrew S, AIM's Sharon Mitchell, legendary director Andrew Blake, adult industry attorneys Clyde DeWitt and Allan Gelbard, New Sensations? Rhonda K, Matrix Content?s Norman Bentley, BlazingBucks?s Mark Schecter, TheContentStore.com?s J$tyle$, AAA News' Sid Greiff, Adam & Eve Pictures? Mischa Allen and representatives from anti-piracy groups GAPA and AICO.

seeric · 09-06-2007, 02:53 PM

We got about 65 people total I would say. Here are some of the others.

Digital Playground
Steven Gallon Grooby Productions
Arrow Productions
Antigua Pictures
Digital Sin
TopChoiceCash
AsianDivaGirls
Ark DVD
Mean Bitches
Maverick
GAPA
Calvista
Japanime
VDS
Adam and Eve
Red Light District
Andrew Blake Studios

were all in attendance and more..

Dirty D · 09-06-2007, 02:57 PM

This is Dirty D approved.

Wish I were in LA to attend and participate.

Copyright infringement has always been an issue but never as widespread as now.

tehHinjew · 09-06-2007, 03:00 PM

when is part two

Brad Mitchell · 09-06-2007, 03:03 PM

Sounds like an excellent success for the first roundtable discussion. I am looking forward to hearing about how things progress with this group to help fight piracy.

Cheers,

Brad

MaDalton · 09-06-2007, 03:05 PM

congrats, that's an impressive list of people.

seeric · 09-06-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tehHinjew

when is part two

shooting for part 2 at internext on a large scale. gives us time to develop what we've got on the table and show some results to garner widespread support.

we are off to an incredible start.

seeric · 09-06-2007, 03:12 PM

STEVE LIGHTSPEED

Flew his ass all the way from Arizona because he cares about this issue as much as we do. Considering we couldn't get even a sliver of the lazy ass programs that shoot content in L.A. to a meeting in their own city, I commend Steve on caring when others don't. He's always there when it comes to people stealing shit.

THANKS STEVE!

You know you're tops in my book.

BTW, XXXJAY wanted to be there but had commitments uncontrollable and had to deal with those.

xNetworx · 09-06-2007, 03:12 PM

I'm impressed. Great job!

tucker · 09-06-2007, 03:24 PM

Airek, Hector and the Shanes World family did a great job of getting a lot of people together and providing an awesome forum for us all to vent and bounce ideas.

A BIG THANK YOU TO SHANE'S WORLD FOR STEPPING UP!!!

Your Moderator did a fantastic job.

Its a great first step!

tucker · 09-06-2007, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

STEVE LIGHTSPEED

Flew his ass all the way from Arizona because he cares about this issue as much as we do. Considering we couldn't get even a sliver of the lazy ass programs that shoot content in L.A. to a meeting in their own city, I commend Steve on caring when others don't. He's always there when it comes to people stealing shit.

THANKS STEVE!

You know you're tops in my book.

BTW, XXXJAY wanted to be there but had commitments uncontrollable and had to deal with those.

It was great to see Steve. One guy came in from Hawaii.

RawAlex · 09-06-2007, 04:16 PM

A big thumbs up to everyone that showed up or expressed support, and I am sure there will be more to come from this in the near future.

seeric · 09-06-2007, 04:43 PM

fyi incase people saw in the other thread that someone started we had a pro moderator that hush money paid for from outside the industry that did a kick ass job and kept everyone on track AND caused resolution and action.

WWC-Moe B. · 09-06-2007, 04:55 PM

It was good to be there ;)
Good organization!!!
Good job A1R3K

WarChild · 09-06-2007, 04:59 PM

I'm still downloadin' yo shit.

tucker · 09-06-2007, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Moe B.

It was good to be there ;)
Good organization!!!
Good job A1R3K

Hey Moe, thanks for sponsoring it.

WWC-Moe B. · 09-06-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker

Hey Moe, thanks for sponsoring it.

My pleasure... Everyone should take this serious!!!

ultimatebbwdotcom · 09-06-2007, 05:14 PM

Great start !!!

seeric · 09-06-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWC-Moe B.

It was good to be there ;)
Good organization!!!
Good job A1R3K

WORLD WIDE CONTENT

man!!!!!!!!! that food was the bomb. those sandwiches were amazing!

thanks moe!

seriously!

seeric · 09-06-2007, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm still downloadin' yo shit.

cool. have fun. i would never charge a webmaster to whack it to the best content on the internet. should have asked me, i woulda sent you dvds instead and saved you the problem of DL all that shit.

TheAmericanCannibal · 09-06-2007, 05:29 PM

Great meeting guys
I think a lot of good will come from it.

Tucker you still have me smiling from last night.
You are too funny man.

WWC-Moe B. · 09-06-2007, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

WORLD WIDE CONTENT

man!!!!!!!!! that food was the bomb. those sandwiches were amazing!

thanks moe!

seriously!

Our pleasure!!! You guys are good people!!!

munki · 09-06-2007, 06:37 PM

Thoroughly enjoyed the meeting of the minds last night, and it was great to see even on a small scale the old school video side peeps, and new school internet peeps together trying to hash out ways to deal with our piracy issues.

Can't wait to do everything I can to help over the coming months...

rhon23 · 09-06-2007, 06:46 PM

Thank you so much for putting this together. There was a lot of passion in the room and I am really glad I went. If just one thing comes from this round table thats one thing more than we had before it.

Redrob · 09-06-2007, 07:32 PM

Thank you Hector, A1R3K, Megan and Moe for your incredible achievement in getting that many interested parties to show up and participate. Like you, this is an industry problem that I am deeply passionate about.

Content theft is an problem that is attacking our industry from many different sources using different means at the same time. Only by coming together and facing this threat as a unified group, we will prevail. The comments made and insights shared at the meeting were right on.

I know there will be much "wailing and gnashing of teeth" as our efforts come to bear on those deserving our attention. But, let them be warned...

stop supporting content theft and the destruction of our industry today.

pinochio2007 · 09-06-2007, 08:49 PM

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minusonebit · 09-06-2007, 08:57 PM

Interesting...

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinochio2007

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They may have had permission. Though I doubt it.

RawAlex · 09-06-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinochio2007

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Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without express written permission is prohibited. For reprint permission contact us.

Me thinks you guys need to learn more about copyright law and fair use. But hey, that would take you away from your torrent and tube sites, so don't worry about it.

DaddyHalbucks · 09-06-2007, 09:15 PM

Wow, sounds like a very positive step in the right direction.

DWB · 09-06-2007, 09:25 PM

Third World Media & Black Ops were in the house.

J$tyle$ · 09-06-2007, 10:59 PM

A1r3k -

Great job organizing and promoting the meeting. I think it was an excellent first step and was glad to participate.

minusonebit · 09-06-2007, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Me thinks you guys need to learn more about copyright law and fair use. But hey, that would take you away from your torrent and tube sites, so don't worry about it.

You are not implying that was fair use, are you? Please tell me you are not going to claim that. Fair use applies to limited citations from a work for the purpose of critical reviews, parody or commentary but it most often does not allow the reproduction of an entire work.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 09-06-2007, 11:52 PM

I flew down from the San Francisco Bay Area just to attend this event, and it was well worth the time and expense. The input from the attendees (everyone had a chance to speak), was quite insightful.

I encourage those of you whom did not attend, to pay attention to what came out of this meeting (the adhoc committee will be releasing this info), and more importantly to get involved, by joining the organization and contributing ideas/time/money in this effort to sustain and improve our industry.

Thank you to AIR3K, WorldWideContent and the other sponsors, for facilitating the first step towards building an industry-wide organization established for the purpose of reducing content theft.

ADG

09-06-2007, 02:48 PM	#1
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	XBIZ reports on Piracy Meeting Last Night In Los Angeles ((LINK)) http://www.xbiz.com/news/83798 UNIVERSAL CITY, Calif. ? A diverse group of adult industry members gathered in a conference room at the Universal Sheraton hotel Wednesday night to discuss the growing threat of piracy. The meeting, attended by approximately 75 people, succeeded in creating an open dialogue and saw the seeds planted for the creation of a new anti-piracy organization. Organized by Shane?s World who hired a professional moderator to keep the roundtable flowing smoothly, attendees found much value in getting key players in one room to identify the remedies ? legal or otherwise ? that content producers and copyright holders could take to protect their works. Resulting from the meeting was the formation of an ad-hoc advisory board that meets next week to crystallize ideas and suggestions that came from the meeting. The group, comprised of content producers, is going to begin the process of strategizing and setting some ?hard and fast? rules for the organization on paper. While the meeting was intended to function as the first step to start discussions on an industry-wide response to piracy, it wasn?t intended as a problem-solving session but rather the first in a series of brainstorming sessions designed to formalize a response to the threat that has the support of key content producers and other members of the business. ?I didn?t come to the meeting with any preconceived expectations, because frankly, I didn?t know exactly what it was supposed to accomplish, but I knew it was important to attend and whatever winds up coming out of this important first step I want to be a part of,? Falcon Foto President Jason Tucker told XBIZ after the discussion wrapped. ?Ultimately, we may not get together as an entire industry, but the people that attended tonight, I believe, can make an impact and a difference. That?s why I?m here.? Tucker?s company has filed numerous successful lawsuits against copyright infringers over the past couple years and he expressed relief that other companies might join him in the fight to aggressively police their intellectual copyrights and content from piracy. ?We know what the problem is. This meeting was a collective meeting of the minds to see what steps we could take to combat it on a big scale,? Tucker said. Many attendees targeted the Internet and torrent sites as a huge problem because of how fast and widespread illegally pirated content gets distributed. One prevailing feeling was if through legal redress torrent sites get shut down, there will be new ones popping up the next day. The Internet presents a global problem not easily solved. Noted industry attorney Gregory Piccionelli told XBIZ that a prudent way to stymie offending sites is to go after their record keeping ? something his firm has done successfully. ?I believe that if this ad-hoc group is set up the right way, it can attract talent; lawyers who will take cases on contingency because we will have an entity that is recognized and means business,? Piccionelli said. ?There is no such group like this yet for producers of adult content. My belief is that we have to set something like that up here and we are on our way to doing that.? Airek, director of Internet operations for Shane?s World, who was integral in the roundtable?s formation said that he was going to begin work on AntiPiracyBoard.com, a website for the industry to use to report content theft. The board is going to be used to timestamp infringement with screenshots along with companies whose advertisements appears next to unauthorized content. ?Ultimately, we need to show all content thieves and pirates out there that we?re willing to put our time and money into an organization that is going to protect our content from being ripped off,? Airek told XBIZ. ?Coming off the success of this meeting, I have faith we?re purposely moving in that direction.? Attendees included Hush Hush Entertainment's Andrew S, AIM's Sharon Mitchell, legendary director Andrew Blake, adult industry attorneys Clyde DeWitt and Allan Gelbard, New Sensations? Rhonda K, Matrix Content?s Norman Bentley, BlazingBucks?s Mark Schecter, TheContentStore.com?s J$tyle$, AAA News' Sid Greiff, Adam & Eve Pictures? Mischa Allen and representatives from anti-piracy groups GAPA and AICO.

09-06-2007, 02:57 PM	#3
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09-06-2007, 03:00 PM	#4
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09-06-2007, 03:03 PM	#5
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09-06-2007, 03:05 PM	#6
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09-06-2007, 02:53 PM	#2
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	We got about 65 people total I would say. Here are some of the others. Digital Playground Steven Gallon Grooby Productions Arrow Productions Antigua Pictures Digital Sin TopChoiceCash AsianDivaGirls Ark DVD Mean Bitches Maverick GAPA Calvista Japanime VDS Adam and Eve Red Light District Andrew Blake Studios were all in attendance and more..

09-06-2007, 03:12 PM	#8
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	STEVE LIGHTSPEED Flew his ass all the way from Arizona because he cares about this issue as much as we do. Considering we couldn't get even a sliver of the lazy ass programs that shoot content in L.A. to a meeting in their own city, I commend Steve on caring when others don't. He's always there when it comes to people stealing shit. THANKS STEVE! You know you're tops in my book. BTW, XXXJAY wanted to be there but had commitments uncontrollable and had to deal with those.

09-06-2007, 03:12 PM	#9
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	I'm impressed. Great job!

09-06-2007, 03:24 PM	#10
tucker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: LA Posts: 584	Airek, Hector and the Shanes World family did a great job of getting a lot of people together and providing an awesome forum for us all to vent and bounce ideas. A BIG THANK YOU TO SHANE'S WORLD FOR STEPPING UP!!! Your Moderator did a fantastic job. Its a great first step!

09-06-2007, 04:16 PM	#12
RawAlex So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In a house. Posts: 9,465	A big thumbs up to everyone that showed up or expressed support, and I am sure there will be more to come from this in the near future.

09-06-2007, 04:43 PM	#13
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	fyi incase people saw in the other thread that someone started we had a pro moderator that hush money paid for from outside the industry that did a kick ass job and kept everyone on track AND caused resolution and action.

09-06-2007, 04:55 PM	#14
WWC-Moe B. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,546	It was good to be there ;) Good organization!!! Good job A1R3K __________________ Moe B. [email protected] ICQ - 286024627 Now get full videos with Matching High Res Photos !!! " CONTENT PROVIDER OF THE YEAR! " ~ XBIZ 2007, 2008 and 2009 AWARDS WINNER New IP-TV Streaming Technology Feeds for Your Site ! www.WorldWideFeeds.com !!!

09-06-2007, 04:59 PM	#15
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I'm still downloadin' yo shit. __________________ .

09-06-2007, 05:14 PM	#18
ultimatebbwdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 591	Great start !!!

09-06-2007, 05:29 PM	#21
TheAmericanCannibal Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,086	Great meeting guys I think a lot of good will come from it. Tucker you still have me smiling from last night. You are too funny man.

09-06-2007, 06:37 PM	#23
munki Do Fun Shit. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OC Posts: 13,393	Thoroughly enjoyed the meeting of the minds last night, and it was great to see even on a small scale the old school video side peeps, and new school internet peeps together trying to hash out ways to deal with our piracy issues. Can't wait to do everything I can to help over the coming months... __________________ “I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

09-06-2007, 06:46 PM	#24
rhon23 Rebel Girl Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Island Of Misfit Toys Posts: 3,264	Thank you so much for putting this together. There was a lot of passion in the room and I am really glad I went. If just one thing comes from this round table thats one thing more than we had before it.

09-06-2007, 07:32 PM	#25
Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,791	Thank you Hector, A1R3K, Megan and Moe for your incredible achievement in getting that many interested parties to show up and participate. Like you, this is an industry problem that I am deeply passionate about. Content theft is an problem that is attacking our industry from many different sources using different means at the same time. Only by coming together and facing this threat as a unified group, we will prevail. The comments made and insights shared at the meeting were right on. I know there will be much "wailing and gnashing of teeth" as our efforts come to bear on those deserving our attention. But, let them be warned... stop supporting content theft and the destruction of our industry today.

09-06-2007, 08:49 PM	#26
pinochio2007 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2	Irony: Copyright ? 1996-2007 Adnet Media. All Rights Reserved. XBIZ is a trademark of Adnet Media. Reproduction in whole or in part in any form or medium without express written permission is prohibited. For reprint permission contact us.

09-06-2007, 09:15 PM	#29
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	Wow, sounds like a very positive step in the right direction. __________________ Boner Money

09-06-2007, 09:25 PM	#30
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Third World Media & Black Ops were in the house.

09-06-2007, 10:59 PM	#31
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	A1r3k - Great job organizing and promoting the meeting. I think it was an excellent first step and was glad to participate.

09-06-2007, 11:52 PM	#33
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	I flew down from the San Francisco Bay Area just to attend this event, and it was well worth the time and expense. The input from the attendees (everyone had a chance to speak), was quite insightful. I encourage those of you whom did not attend, to pay attention to what came out of this meeting (the adhoc committee will be releasing this info), and more importantly to get involved, by joining the organization and contributing ideas/time/money in this effort to sustain and improve our industry. Thank you to AIR3K, WorldWideContent and the other sponsors, for facilitating the first step towards building an industry-wide organization established for the purpose of reducing content theft. ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)