Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13047950)

Is any of your content being stolen on Red Tube?

Are you a content producer?

Originally Posted by esnem (Post 13047950)

Is any of your content being stolen on Red Tube?

Are you a content producer?

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13048180)

Of course not. He is just stirring up shit. It is his M.O.

Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 13048536)

Yes and Yes.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13048602)

You are a content producer? Why am I having trouble accepting that?

Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 13048536)

Yes and Yes.

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13048623)

Then do what they said and send a DMCA to them.

Whenever I send out my DMCA notices (in proper format) they always go to the site owner, the host, and the billing company and or sponsors on any given page. So far aside from a few hosts CCbill has been the quickest to respond and ensure my content gets removed and or halts their billing. Last time I had to do a repeat DMCA on one site it was not even being billed by ccbill anymore but by one of those smaller rarely used billers.

Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 13048673)

I have done that already,and this may have solved my problem but I think it certainly does not solve the issue of companies like CCBill not caring until someone bitches about it!
This is the problem they should care from th get go not after the fact!

Originally Posted by JMM (Post 13048819)

Let me see if I can clearly explain why a company like CCBill cannot act until they are notified.

The DMCA provides service providers a safe harbor from liability IF they act expeditiously when notified of infringement (A DMCA letter).

Failure to act when properly notifed exposes a company like CCBill to the same liability as the direct infringer.

Now, here is the problem:

CCBill processes for tens of thousands of sites, some of which I am certain deal in stolen content.

If CCBill were to cease processing on sites that they THINK, or BELIEVE are dealing in stolen content WITHOUT being notified by the rights holder, they would then assume the liability for ALL sites that they process for.

So in otherwords, site A, B, and C are all dealing in stolen content. CCBill, acting on a hunch, or a belief, cancels processing for sites A and B (without ever receiving a DMCA notice from the rights holder of the content).

They miss site C, also dealing in stolen content, and continue processing.

They have now assumed the liability for the infringing activity of site C.

The argument would be made, hey..you nixed A and B, but you continued to process for C. You believed that A and B were dealing in stolen content, well you should have believed site C was also.

Pay up.

That is why the DMCA notice was provided for in the DMCA. That is why companies like CCBill, eBay, etc CANNOT act in advance without proper notification, but MUST and do act upon proper notification.

It is all about liability.

Hope that clears things up.

Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 13049084)

So basically your saying that they are incompetent in their lil CCBill business ,and dont give a fuck till someone bitches which is what I am trying to clearly point out here over and over to you people!

I understand their policy,and Corvette clearly stated that his team is
incompetent,and basically they dont give a fuck.:thumbsup

Thanks for summing it all up for us:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 13049248)

This industry should thank god every day CCBill and Epoch are open for business, really.

This is just another board troll who doesn't want to stop and listen to business logic and business reality. He's got it out for CCBill

Originally Posted by SWorldMegan (Post 13049448)

http://www.redtube.com/367

I know for sure this is new sensations stuff and they DO NOT license.
Nor do they give 12 minutes clips for promo reasons .. especially not watermarked =)

xoxo,
Megan

Originally Posted by Due (Post 13044354)

Actually a billing provider is not requirred to check your licenses to see your content is licensed, but they are requirred to revoke your billing option if actions is not followed from a DMCA notice. They are however if they are based in USA, requirred to check that there is valid 2257 links on sites they do billing for, again a valid 2257 link does not actually mean that you hold the license for the content. If y3ou steal content, why not steal 2257 docs too?
Unlicensed content does not actually mean stolen content, it could be a human mistake, just as a DMCA could also be send out by a mistake as well.
An example could be someone working with a portfolio of companies for different business areas, and by mistake take content licensed to company A and use for combany B, ofcourse this is not licensed, but this could be a honest mistake by the business manager that run both company A and company B.
Would you feel good if I spend example $10K on content in your shop buying content for a company, and by a mistake put up lets say 2 sets on a site owned by another company I run, the result could be you DMCA ccbill that pull billing, after that you discover I bought a shitload of content from you, and you killed one of my online business rather getting me a "warning" to clean up my shit. And in case the above scenario happend, do you think you would have a repeat customer from me?
I'm not saying that this is something I speculate in, but I do hold a lot of licenses for various content, and also content licensed to different companies, so it COULD in theory happend, I do belive I have multiple of your sets too :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13049948)

Great - So the rules of the industry have changed.

All programs, credit card processig companies, hosting companies, design companies, and pretty much everyone in the business must verify that all and any content another company they do business with has the legal rights to use said content.

The industry would grind to a halt in seconds.

This is a bullshit thread.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13049948)

Originally Posted by OG LennyT (Post 13051770)

exactly.

Ripshitter sounds like a fucking 13 yr old kid

Originally Posted by Tanker (Post 13042566)

depends on what redtube.com was when they signed up for processing

Originally Posted by corvette (Post 13043096)

ripshit, if your content is on there without your permission, icq me and together we will get it off or the site down and if this is anything other than a one time occurrence, that client will be shut off and will never processing with ccbill again. Just need to be sure that there is content on the site that they dont have permission to use. Ill hold your hand through the entire process.

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13049948)

Great - So the rules of the industry have changed.

All programs, credit card processig companies, hosting companies, design companies, and pretty much everyone in the business must verify that all and any content another company they do business with has the legal rights to use said content.

The industry would grind to a halt in seconds.

This is a bullshit thread.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13048180)

Of course not. He is just stirring up shit. It is his M.O.

Originally Posted by Ripshit (Post 13051691)

Think about what you have just stated in lesser words for a sec......

The industry is out of control,and corrupt!

Sad to say your right seems people have enough problems getting the proper 2257 docs why would I think that there is an once of honesty anywhere in this industry?

Which brings me to another point here where is any of the thousands of 2257 links to on that fuckin site for any of the content?