B-52 carried nuclear armed cruise missiles by mistake : US - GoFuckYourself.com

Just_Dave · 09-05-2007, 12:07 PM

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A B-52 bomber flew the length of the United States last week loaded with six nuclear armed cruise missiles in a major security breach, US military officials said Wednesday.

The lapse was reported to President George W. Bush after the nuclear warheads were discovered when the aircraft landed at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, said a military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The US Air Force has relieved the munition squadron commander at Minot Air Base in North Dakota of his duties, and launched an intensive investigation into the incident, a spokesman said.

"At no time was there a threat to public safety," said Lieutenant Colonel Ed Thomas. "It is important to note that munitions were safe, secure and under military control at all times."

The Pentagon would not provide specifics, citing secrecy rules, but an expert said the incident was unprecedented and pointed to a disturbing lapse in the air force's command and control system.

"All evidence we have seen so far points to an isolated mistake," Thomas said. "The error was discovered by airmen during internal Air Force checks."

The Air Force's air combat command "has directed a command-wide stand down to review process at all of our bases."

"The munitions squadron commander has been relieved of his duties, and final action is pending the outcome of the investigation," he said. "In addition, other airmen were decertified from their duties involving munitions."

An air force official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said six cruise missiles with nuclear warheads were loaded on pylons under the wings of a B-52 bomber that flew from Minot to Barksdale on August 30.

Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces, said he knew of no other publicly acknowledged case of live nuclear weapons being flown on bombers since the late 1960s.

"It seems so fantastic that so many points, checks can dysfunction," he said. "And we have so many points and checks specifically so we don't have these kinds of incidents."

Kristensen said the air force keeps a computerized command and control system that traces any movement of a nuclear weapon so that they have a complete picture of where they are at any given time.

He said there would be checks and detailed procedures at various points from the time they are moved out of bunkers until they are loaded onto planes, and flown away.

"That's perhaps what is most worrisome about this particular incident is that apparently an individual who had command authority about moving these weapons around decided to so," he said.

"The question is did he just plug in the information that he was moving these to Barksdale, or something else. Who knows?"

"So it's a command and control issue and it's one that calls into question the system, because if one individual can do that who knows what can happen," he said.

Ike Skelton, the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said in a statement that the reports that nuclear weapons were mishandled "are deeply disturbing."

"The American people, our friends, and our potential adversaries must be confident that the highest standards are in place when it comes to our nuclear arsenal," he said.

The weapons were among 400 advanced cruise missiles that the Defense Department quietly decided to retire in March over the course of this year.

The advanced cruise missile is a stealthy, longer range version of the air launched cruise missile first deployed in the early 1980s.

They carry W-80 warheads of up to 150 kilotons, ten times the destructive force of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.

Nuclear weapons are normally transferred on cargo planes, never on the wings of bombers, Kristensen said. Bomber flights with live nuclear weapons were ended in the late 1960s after accidents in Spain in 1966 and in Greenland in 1968.

The military official said the discovery was reported to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Peter Pace, "and higher." The official said the notification goes as high as the president.

"There are procedures in place and they kicked in and worked," the official said

pornguy · 09-05-2007, 12:10 PM

Man these guys better get their shit together.

WeirdHomer · 09-05-2007, 12:12 PM

As long as a Russian Tupolev isn't flying these things around it should be fairly safe.

Russian Tupolevs do more crashes then Japanese kamikaze pilots

Fat Panda · 09-05-2007, 12:15 PM

They flew right over my house!

Brother Bilo · 09-05-2007, 12:16 PM

Who cares? Unless they launched it, why does it matter? There are nuclear missles all over the place, so why is this such a big deal?

p1mpdogg · 09-05-2007, 12:18 PM

even if the plane crashed, the nuces were not armed so they wouldnt have went off im guessing.

oh well fuck itt, some pretty expensive fireworks would have been cool to see kill off a few useless states

WeirdHomer · 09-05-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg

even if the plane crashed, the nuces were not armed so they wouldnt have went off im guessing.

oh well fuck itt, some pretty expensive fireworks would have been cool to see kill off a few useless states

According to the article they actually where armed.

uno · 09-05-2007, 12:26 PM

I bet this happens a lot more than we'd like to believe.

I saw some documentary about a nuclear missile that was mistakenly carried on a military aircraft during a training excersize that is still buried under the sea off the coast of georgia 50 or 60 years ago.

_Richard_ · 09-05-2007, 12:34 PM

sure sure.. 'mistake' lol

baddog · 09-05-2007, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeirdHomer

According to the article they actually where armed.

$$ doesn't buy reading comprehension skills.

directfiesta · 09-05-2007, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

Who cares? Unless they launched it, why does it matter? There are nuclear missles all over the place, so why is this such a big deal?

reading impaired ????

or just in a negation world ....?

directfiesta · 09-05-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

$$ doesn't buy reading comprehension skills.

go that right .....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_Dave

WASHINGTON (AFP) - ...loaded with six nuclear armed cruise missiles ...

Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces, said he knew of no other publicly acknowledged case of live nuclear weapons being flown on bombers since the late 1960s.

Bomber flights with live nuclear weapons were ended in the late 1960s after accidents in Spain in 1966 and in Greenland in 1968.

DaddyHalbucks · 09-05-2007, 12:46 PM

I am sure this is the tip of the iceberg of disturbing incidents involving nukes.

MikeB · 09-05-2007, 01:13 PM

Oopsies.

JP-pornshooter · 09-05-2007, 01:19 PM

great we will bomb ourselves to hell..
who needs terrorists anyways..

SmokeyTheBear · 09-05-2007, 02:04 PM

good thing that guy wasnt in a bad mood or pissed at his ex wife or something..

funny thing is they get screwed by their own system.

In the army your not supposed to ask questions or "second guess" your superiors.

Its kinda pathetic that they would ask " how could 1 guy do this"

thats how the military works. one guy makes the orders , everyone else follows them..

Vick! · 09-05-2007, 02:28 PM

Why not just drop it on Iran, North Korea or somewhere .. by mistake?

crockett · 09-05-2007, 03:03 PM

My thoughts on the issue, is WTF are they flying B52's around if they aren't armed? Isn't that the whole idea of having them in the air ready for a strike? So wtf if we ever had to use them, they would have to land and get armed then take off again? lol that's just silly.

CuriousToyBoy · 09-05-2007, 06:22 PM

Why carry dummy missles if not just training.

If shit starts are not they there to shoot at shit?

2c

teg0 · 09-05-2007, 06:24 PM

I heard about this today on the radio while driving. Thats the kind of mistake that just shouldn't be made.

geeknik · 09-05-2007, 06:57 PM

And what's to say this isn't happening every day?

Oh wait, it is. And 9 times out of 10, they are on a truck, not a plane.

And the military doesn't provide security for them either. It's the United States Marshals Service that does.

Quote:

The guards are heavily armed federal law enforcement officers with a classified set of rules for engagement that is centered on keeping the material they transfer in the hands of U.S. federal agents.

http://www.milnet.com/nukcarr.htm

09-05-2007, 12:07 PM	#1
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	B-52 carried nuclear armed cruise missiles by mistake : US WASHINGTON (AFP) - A B-52 bomber flew the length of the United States last week loaded with six nuclear armed cruise missiles in a major security breach, US military officials said Wednesday. The lapse was reported to President George W. Bush after the nuclear warheads were discovered when the aircraft landed at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, said a military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. The US Air Force has relieved the munition squadron commander at Minot Air Base in North Dakota of his duties, and launched an intensive investigation into the incident, a spokesman said. "At no time was there a threat to public safety," said Lieutenant Colonel Ed Thomas. "It is important to note that munitions were safe, secure and under military control at all times." The Pentagon would not provide specifics, citing secrecy rules, but an expert said the incident was unprecedented and pointed to a disturbing lapse in the air force's command and control system. "All evidence we have seen so far points to an isolated mistake," Thomas said. "The error was discovered by airmen during internal Air Force checks." The Air Force's air combat command "has directed a command-wide stand down to review process at all of our bases." "The munitions squadron commander has been relieved of his duties, and final action is pending the outcome of the investigation," he said. "In addition, other airmen were decertified from their duties involving munitions." An air force official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said six cruise missiles with nuclear warheads were loaded on pylons under the wings of a B-52 bomber that flew from Minot to Barksdale on August 30. Hans Kristensen, an expert on US nuclear forces, said he knew of no other publicly acknowledged case of live nuclear weapons being flown on bombers since the late 1960s. "It seems so fantastic that so many points, checks can dysfunction," he said. "And we have so many points and checks specifically so we don't have these kinds of incidents." Kristensen said the air force keeps a computerized command and control system that traces any movement of a nuclear weapon so that they have a complete picture of where they are at any given time. He said there would be checks and detailed procedures at various points from the time they are moved out of bunkers until they are loaded onto planes, and flown away. "That's perhaps what is most worrisome about this particular incident is that apparently an individual who had command authority about moving these weapons around decided to so," he said. "The question is did he just plug in the information that he was moving these to Barksdale, or something else. Who knows?" "So it's a command and control issue and it's one that calls into question the system, because if one individual can do that who knows what can happen," he said. Ike Skelton, the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, said in a statement that the reports that nuclear weapons were mishandled "are deeply disturbing." "The American people, our friends, and our potential adversaries must be confident that the highest standards are in place when it comes to our nuclear arsenal," he said. The weapons were among 400 advanced cruise missiles that the Defense Department quietly decided to retire in March over the course of this year. The advanced cruise missile is a stealthy, longer range version of the air launched cruise missile first deployed in the early 1980s. They carry W-80 warheads of up to 150 kilotons, ten times the destructive force of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Nuclear weapons are normally transferred on cargo planes, never on the wings of bombers, Kristensen said. Bomber flights with live nuclear weapons were ended in the late 1960s after accidents in Spain in 1966 and in Greenland in 1968. The military official said the discovery was reported to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Peter Pace, "and higher." The official said the notification goes as high as the president. "There are procedures in place and they kicked in and worked," the official said

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uno RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Area Posts: 18,450	I bet this happens a lot more than we'd like to believe. I saw some documentary about a nuclear missile that was mistakenly carried on a military aircraft during a training excersize that is still buried under the sea off the coast of georgia 50 or 60 years ago. __________________ -uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya!

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09-05-2007, 01:13 PM	#14
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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	My thoughts on the issue, is WTF are they flying B52's around if they aren't armed? Isn't that the whole idea of having them in the air ready for a strike? So wtf if we ever had to use them, they would have to land and get armed then take off again? lol that's just silly. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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teg0 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gringo in Puerto Rico Posts: 4,204	I heard about this today on the radio while driving. Thats the kind of mistake that just shouldn't be made.