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Old 09-10-2002, 10:55 PM   #1
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Sites for woman?

Carol emailed me today wanting to try promoting a site for females like this one http://www.queenerotica.com
I thought it was a good Idea something we havn't done in a long time. but times have changed and alot of woman are online.

Has anyone sent traffic to one and if so how did it do?

Maybe it would do well as an option on exits or mailers?

any insite on this?
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Old 09-10-2002, 10:58 PM   #2
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I think you would get better conversions selling sex toys to women instead of content.... just a GUESS.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:02 PM   #4
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I suggest you try out Purve if you want to promote this type of site. CJ was one of the originals in this niche and I've heard her site still converts great with the right traffic.

As for "for women" pay sites in general, I wouldn't invest my life savings in the idea.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:06 PM   #5
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Purve was one of the ones I looked at, I'd like to give it a try.

I've always wondered if it would work (Porn sites for women).
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:14 PM   #6
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Roger & Carol, I suggest you check out Sandra's site over at WEN for more indepth discussions and information on the "Porn For Women" market. Its an outstanding resource for this topic.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:18 PM   #7
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Deb,

thanks! Found that this evening, it is a wonderful resource

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I suggest you try out Purve if you want to promote this type of site. CJ was one of the originals in this niche and I've heard her site still converts great with the right traffic.

As for "for women" pay sites in general, I wouldn't invest my life savings in the idea.
hell yeah
I'm a model on that site too

Carla is a total sweetie and knows her shit....
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:35 PM   #9
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Most everyone I have discussed the idea believes it to be fruitless at best; I think it's an untapped market worth exploring, it's a huge demographic & women are just as interested in sex as men, if presented to them intelligently I think it could work. This is of course based on my opinion and not proven as of yet, I have spoken to quite a few women who think a porn site for women that contained a bit more than your average crotch shot could appeal to them but that about the extent of it...

I've heard a lot of people say it wouldn't work, any particular reason why you (anyone) thinks it wouldn't work?
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:42 PM   #10
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I think there is about 2 or 3 women on this earth that would join a porn paysite.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:45 PM   #11
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Most everyone I have discussed the idea believes it to be fruitless at best; I think it's an untapped market worth exploring, it's a huge demographic & women are just as interested in sex as men, if presented to them intelligently I think it could work. This is of course based on my opinion and not proven as of yet, I have spoken to quite a few women who think a porn site for women that contained a bit more than your average crotch shot could appeal to them but that about the extent of it...

I've heard a lot of people say it wouldn't work, any particular reason why you (anyone) thinks it wouldn't work?
Women don't pay for sex. Men do.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:47 PM   #12
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sell them some hormones, they love that shit.... alleviates hot flashes etc..
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Give Purve a shot. CJ is no dummy, she wouldn't be doing it if she wasn't making good money.

I was in Purve the other night looking around, it's very high quality, much better than most.

http://www.purvebucks.com

And here's another tip for those of you with paysites, you'd be surprised how many girlfriends/wives also check out your members areas. CJ also has a plugin called Purvette, might be worth trying.

http://webmasters.purvette.com
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:51 PM   #14
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Women don't pay for sex. Men do.

CJ is proving that statement wrong. BUT i will give you that it's a small % of women who are likely to pay for porn or erotica.
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Old 09-10-2002, 11:55 PM   #15
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If I had the time, Id make a sex toy of the month club, charge like 29.95 and automatically send women sex toys, especially if the members to the club could vote or choose from a selection of toys, women love choices and most love sex toys.

Actually, you could charge say 39.95 and as an added bonus they'd gain acceess to a members area with pics and stories and such.

I'd totally help finance this and could handle distribution if anyone is interested

It would be a nice upsell to get them into a recurring billing cycle

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I think there is about 2 or 3 women on this earth that would join a porn paysite.
wrong!
women consume porn, just not the same type of porn as men....
a woman is not going to join a site with 6 guys jerking off on an 18 year old's face...but give her something "softer" and more romantic and she'll more likely buy.

The reason so many "for women" sites don't work is because they are run by men....the good ones like purve and zecrets, are run by women so are more successful. Women in our society have been trained to ignore their sexual impulses and all that shit...but there are women seeking and searching...a lot of my female friends ask me "how come there aren';t any porn sites for women?" I tell them there are and point them to purve and zecrets....and for the saucier ones, I point them to www.bigharddick.com
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CJ is proving that statement wrong. BUT i will give you that it's a small % of women who are likely to pay for porn or erotica.
CJ is very smart, she's involved in many sites. Purve is her baby, but I doubt it's her cash cow.

If you have the traffic, I would send it to Purve over the other "for women" sites.

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Give Purve a shot. CJ is no dummy, she wouldn't be doing it if she wasn't making good money.

I was in Purve the other night looking around, it's very high quality, much better than most.

http://www.purvebucks.com

And here's another tip for those of you with paysites, you'd be surprised how many girlfriends/wives also check out your members areas. CJ also has a plugin called Purvette, might be worth trying.

http://webmasters.purvette.com
suuuuuuuuuuuuure Mutt, you were just trying to scam more naked pics of me ;)
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As a woman I enjoy porn but I would never pay for it. I can think of so many better things to spend my money on.
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Carol lets just shoot a mailer out with all sites for woman in it.
and subject should read (For woman only)

i can't wait to see the results.

and thanks for all the tips

carol this one is all you I thnik it will do well.
maybe we should include our gay list on this one?
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Hey RogerV could you hit me on icq to talk about for women sites a bit. 41695712

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Roger

there is something just wrong about both of us up this late posting and/or reading and/or both

I'll put something together tomorrow

thanks for all the input
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suuuuuuuuuuuuure Mutt, you were just trying to scam more naked pics of me ;)
I saw your photoshoot ONE TIME!

Gives a whole new meaning to the term 'members area' now don't it?

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>>"never pitch the bitch"

aaah yes escortbiz, that's just the philosophy successful companies like nike took when they realized they were missing out on a billion dollar market ... and you'll NEVER see successful companies advertising to women ... hell, NEVER PITCH THE BITCH!!

where were you when nike needed you.

>> As for "for women" pay sites in general, I wouldn't invest my life savings in the idea.

This is good advice.
instead, you should invest in a ready made editorial content package for women and just add galleries!
Purvette Plugin


>>I'm a model on that site too

Sykk, and I haven't done any photoshoots since :-)))

>>I've heard a lot of people say it wouldn't work, any particular reason why you (anyone) thinks it wouldn't work?

Carol, only ignorance ... those who have failed have tried sticking some text 'porn for women' at the top of a page full of wide gaping manpussy (poo hole) pics, and wondered why they didn't do too well. Read back through the WEN archives and ask questions whenever you need ... either on the board or email ...

There's a few simple tests you can do to see how many women are already in your traffic that you have to your existing sites, and how can you maximize how much money they spend at your site

A link on a menu at one of your sites, which says 'ladies section, enter here' ... put up a 1 page full page ad (we have these provided at purvebucks, as does maxcash and ars who have women's sites also) ... see how many 'nibbles' you get off these links and if they lose you money, stop! If you see some good results ... add the links to a few more sites. Put a few sex toy store links on the page and you almost have a site!

>>I think there is about 2 or 3 women on this earth that would join a porn paysite.

Oh brown boy sweetie, look behind you ... your girlfriend is watching la law, and she is fantasizing about the judge and the lawyer taking her in a dirty doggy style threesome over the back of the couch. Women need to escape from reality WAAAAY more than men so later tonight when you are fucking, and she's hornier than she has been in ages, remember ... SHE'S NOT REALLY FUCKING YOU!!!

>>Women don't pay for sex. Men do.

Mr Fiction, your name is perfect ... fiction ... I used to sneak my parents penthouse forum with the stories in it, until i could buy my own and ... i did. We may not pay for sex the way you define it, but we pay for fantasy ... because we are horny or just curious.

Look around you at how many products are aimed 'partially' at the sexual urges of women ... cosmo magazine 'almost naked male centerfold' ... if they could say 'naked man with a giant erection' and still be uncensored on the front shelf ... they would.

>>women do pay they just keep their mouth shut

escortbiz, VERY GOOD POINT. we keep our mouths shut to the male species, but we chat amongst ourselves :-)

>>Carol lets just shoot a mailer out with all sites for woman in it.
and subject should read (For woman only)

Roger, we have 5 women's sites paying $35 per trial signup. If you have opted in mail we would love to work with you.


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Cj, thank you for the wonderful post! I really appreciate all the great advice!!

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Hey Cj!!

Dont give all your secrets to everyone yet!!!

I am trying the "Women Enter Here" link you suggested on the index of http://www.welovefreeporn.com and its working well.

For September I have had 136,750 sufers enter via the MEN ENTER link and 34,390 enter via the WOMEN ENTER link (just under 20% women)

The Women Enter link leads to a FPA with the 5 purvebucks sites on it. The ad has sent 1309 clicks to the sponsor sites for 7 signups (1:189)

That is an extra $245 I've made so far this month for about 60 seconds work!

Thanks for the tip Cj
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Promote the for women sites and then take the content and make gay sites. Trust me, those gays love the hunky pics. Some of my first free sites were for women .

Nice post, CJ !
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a lot of ppl have beaten me to it, but purve is it.
go to http://www.purvebucks.com.

cj, she's pretty cool and a great designer, i briefly worked for her.
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Never pitch the bitch!

The following does not apply to all women but its common

I run a large tech support pay per minute call center only the fuckin women callin and say I was on the phone 7 minutes not 10 when we have phone company records to prove different and then they threaten with chargebacks

Partner in a fuckin pharmacy always the bitches saying you guys are expensive on this I can get it cheaperin the city FUCK YOU GO TO THE FUCKIN CITY

Always a fuckin hassel and for those who sell computer hardware or a computer in general you would know what I mean.

Fuck em

Designing a site for them FUCK THAT,

Now fuckin Martha Stewart is a great example causing thousands of investors to loose millions because she could not take a 40,000 dollar loss FUCK HER BITCH

And just like they said in the movie boiler room "never pitch the bitch"

JUST NEEDED TO SAY THIS BECAUSE ITS FUCKED UP!

Sorry women here im sure you never bitch

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If you can get a site to have a high percentage of female viewers/members, you will be very happy with the results. Rebills on sites with 50%+ female viewers area great... Ask SuicideGirls.com or DarkPlay.net. The trick is, for-women sites have to be more about personality and truth, than about cheesy pictures. It's a whole new ballgame, and is frankly the opposite of how most corporate sites are run.
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Ratboy, i'd love to see it when its done :-)

EroticBiz, the difference with women is that if you spend a few minutes helping them the first time, they will bring you their business over ... and over ... and over again.

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Sykk, and I haven't done any photoshoots since :-)))


Oh brown boy sweetie, look behind you ... your girlfriend is watching la law, and she is fantasizing about the judge and the lawyer taking her in a dirty doggy style threesome over the back of the couch. Women need to escape from reality WAAAAY more than men so later tonight when you are fucking, and she's hornier than she has been in ages, remember ... SHE'S NOT REALLY FUCKING YOU!!!

>>Women don't pay for sex. Men do.

Mr Fiction, your name is perfect ... fiction ... I used to sneak my parents penthouse forum with the stories in it, until i could buy my own and ... i did. We may not pay for sex the way you define it, but we pay for fantasy ... because we are horny or just curious.

Look around you at how many products are aimed 'partially' at the sexual urges of women ... cosmo magazine 'almost naked male centerfold' ... if they could say 'naked man with a giant erection' and still be uncensored on the front shelf ... they would.
cj, sorry to have scarred you so badly that you could never look at another naked man through a lens again ;)))

so, when are we getting married again? ;)

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Ratboy, i'd love to see it when its done :-)

EroticBiz, the difference with women is that if you spend a few minutes helping them the first time, they will bring you their business over ... and over ... and over again.

*shrug*
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Carol, np :-)
I hope you have some success with a few simple tests :-)
Bastard. Previewed the sites on Purve Burve bucks. U put me in popup HELL.
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