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Old 08-30-2007, 04:49 PM   #1
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Sad News: Model Murdered

Not sure how many of you have been following this story, but here it is:
http://xbiz.com/news/83614

Looking at all of the local Oregon press coverage, this murder is being firmly linked to "a life of porn gone tragic".

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Old 08-30-2007, 05:26 PM   #2
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One look at those shitty websites tells anyone with a brain that the guy is a fucking idiot phsycho.

Just another asshole to be shanked in the pen.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:28 PM   #3
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This shit is so bad for the whole industry.
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Old 08-30-2007, 05:36 PM   #5
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Condolences to the family.
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"An autopsy determined that Egan died of homicidal violence.." I've never heard of that as a cause of death before. Must of been bad. That sucks.
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But shocking is the word I'd have used.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:17 PM   #9
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If I was a porn girl I don't think I'd ever go to a shoot without a friend accompanying. Too much weird stuff out there.
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Old 08-30-2007, 06:38 PM   #10
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That. is. just. plain. tragic.

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Old 08-30-2007, 07:07 PM   #11
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the guy looks crazy in the first place
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:38 PM   #15
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:41 PM   #16
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"Frizzelle answered the door with self-inflicted wounds on his arms and allegedly covered in blood, Schmautz said. He now is under 24-hour suicide watch at the Multnomah County Justice Center Jail."

Yeesh, weird stuff, he also looks like he's got a cut by his right eye on the pic. Sad affair for the family too.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:48 PM   #17
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Those girls were crazy for fucking that weird looking bastard. His site is a fucking joke as well.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:55 PM   #18
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From other articles, it appears that they were living together since May or so, that she was bi-polar, and taking hard drugs instead of her meds.

The guy sounds totally sleazy...I'm sure the media will have a field day with this.

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From other articles, it appears that they were living together since May or so, that she was bi-polar, and taking hard drugs instead of her meds.

The guy sounds totally sleazy...I'm sure the media will have a field day with this.

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sadly, this story is a reporter's wet dream...
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:28 PM   #20
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Thats sad. She was so young. He looked just as crazy... I hope that he rots in jail...
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for the people saying girls take friends to a photo shoot.... thats forbidden at my shoots for one reason...

This is a job... like I tell the girls "does your boyfriend walk into your McDonalds Job interview with you" and then I love the answer I get from 90&#37; of the girls...

No I wouldn't work at McDonalds... hahaha but they'd suck dick for dollar...

and for the guys saying look at the guy..

Don't judge a book by it's cover... Ive been to many internext and avn.. he looked like 90% of what gfy kids will look like at 37 years old... I would say 99% of the poople shooting porno are sleezy looking... were pornographers not abercrombie models.....

if the bitch was bipolar theres no tellin what happend at that house that night at all... let the evidence do the talking.....
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for the people saying girls take friends to a photo shoot.... thats forbidden at my shoots for one reason...

This is a job... like I tell the girls "does your boyfriend walk into your McDonalds Job interview with you" and then I love the answer I get from 90% of the girls...

No I wouldn't work at McDonalds... hahaha but they'd suck dick for dollar...

and for the guys saying look at the guy..

Don't judge a book by it's cover... Ive been to many internext and avn.. he looked like 90% of what gfy kids will look like at 37 years old... I would say 99% of the poople shooting porno are sleezy looking... were pornographers not abercrombie models.....

if the bitch was bipolar theres no tellin what happend at that house that night at all... let the evidence do the talking.....
You figure you're McDonalds ? Heh.
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for the people saying girls take friends to a photo shoot.... thats forbidden at my shoots for one reason...

This is a job... like I tell the girls "does your boyfriend walk into your McDonalds Job interview with you" and then I love the answer I get from 90% of the girls...

No I wouldn't work at McDonalds... hahaha but they'd suck dick for dollar...

and for the guys saying look at the guy..

Don't judge a book by it's cover... Ive been to many internext and avn.. he looked like 90% of what gfy kids will look like at 37 years old... I would say 99% of the poople shooting porno are sleezy looking... were pornographers not abercrombie models.....

if the bitch was bipolar theres no tellin what happend at that house that night at all... let the evidence do the talking.....
I invite models to bring someone with them to every project.

For most shoots, there are several people on set anyway - additional still photo/video shooters, make-up artists, production assistants, other performers, etc.

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You figure you're McDonalds ? Heh.
it's a figure of speach to show a job is a job and if you want to say oh porn is ok to bring people to hold your hand... these girls choose porno.... I have been directing since late 2001 and not once have I had to make a girl call me for work... but they all want to bring people with them.... so I tell them the same thing... if you need people to hold your hand how to you manage in life?

think about it...

just because one bad seed like this guy kills a girl now all of a sudden they need bodygaurds on shoots?

im not buying it... maybe I need to hire a "secret shopper" cause these girls steal, fight, you name it... I think every director in here will attest that these girls are feisty... this guy is a douche.... his sites are geocities
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it's a figure of speach to show a job is a job and if you want to say oh porn is ok to bring people to hold your hand... these girls choose porno.... I have been directing since late 2001 and not once have I had to make a girl call me for work... but they all want to bring people with them.... so I tell them the same thing... if you need people to hold your hand how to you manage in life?

think about it...

just because one bad seed like this guy kills a girl now all of a sudden they need bodygaurds on shoots?

im not buying it... maybe I need to hire a "secret shopper" cause these girls steal, fight, you name it... I think every director in here will attest that these girls are feisty... this guy is a douche.... his sites are geocities
All that comes out of there is that you have a problem with women. Which, I guess, is fine, but makes the argumentation a bit limp.
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it's a figure of speach to show a job is a job and if you want to say oh porn is ok to bring people to hold your hand... these girls choose porno.... I have been directing since late 2001 and not once have I had to make a girl call me for work... but they all want to bring people with them.... so I tell them the same thing... if you need people to hold your hand how to you manage in life?

think about it...

just because one bad seed like this guy kills a girl now all of a sudden they need bodygaurds on shoots?

im not buying it... maybe I need to hire a "secret shopper" cause these girls steal, fight, you name it... I think every director in here will attest that these girls are feisty... this guy is a douche.... his sites are geocities

Obviously I am not a model (though I have done a bit of BBW stuff in the distant past) but I simply wouldn't go on a shoot at some guy's home or hotel room where he refused to allow me to have somebody on the shoot.
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Obviously I am not a model (though I have done a bit of BBW stuff in the distant past) but I simply wouldn't go on a shoot at some guy's home or hotel room where he refused to allow me to have somebody on the shoot.
Sarah look at the other side of the coin. Same coin different view.

I'm trying to shoot porn, trying to get a performance out of the girl so it's easy for others to sell, trying to get inside the girls head and motivate her. Can I do that with a friend sitting behind me?

Do I let a stranger sit in my studio, office or house with supervision?

The girl does not trust me, fine let her stay at home. The friend can bring her to the door and sit on the doorstep. They don't come through the door. I was advised by the police to have CCTV installed, not for the models protection but for mine.

Of course if everyone would buy lame videos and pictures sets with a girl clearly not projecting what is required I'm fine with it. Do you want content that converts at 1-500 or 1-5,000?

Not trying to be harsh, just point out what we have to do so we and others can make a living. For girls who want to be safer here's some real useful tips. Don't drink in a bar, don't go home alone, don't meet strangers in a bar, don't let them take you home and definitely don't be alone with them until you have met their family and had a police report on them. Sad but true in 2007.
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Obviously I am not a model (though I have done a bit of BBW stuff in the distant past) but I simply wouldn't go on a shoot at some guy's home or hotel room where he refused to allow me to have somebody on the shoot.


simple question... does your friend come to WORK with you now?


being a model is a job... it's work.... like pauld said.. I care less who brings you to the studio..... but they wait outside... which many husbands have done.... I also have a cctv system set up....

and this is what models and their "friends/family" do....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=7GCDdFhv82k

bottom line is this is a job... like every job in the world there are risks involved...

how bout this theory... if a producer would let models bring friends/family to the shoots... IMO thats crayola style... kiddie style...
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It is just my personal view and one of many reasons I wouldn't/couldn't be a model. I do understand your point but there aren't many jobs where you are asked to get naked alone with a stranger. Now, yes that is their job and I am sure that you and Paul are utmost professionals. I just personally would think twice about going to a house or hotel (maybe in a more public studio I would feel different) where I asked the photographer if I could bring somebody because I felt uncertain about safety and he refused me. Again, I get your point but my self preservation alerts would be going off.


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simple question... does your friend come to WORK with you now?


being a model is a job... it's work.... like pauld said.. I care less who brings you to the studio..... but they wait outside... which many husbands have done.... I also have a cctv system set up....

and this is what models and their "friends/family" do....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=7GCDdFhv82k

bottom line is this is a job... like every job in the world there are risks involved...

how bout this theory... if a producer would let models bring friends/family to the shoots... IMO thats crayola style... kiddie style...
not a real business
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It is just my personal view and one of many reasons I wouldn't/couldn't be a model. I do understand your point but there aren't many jobs where you are asked to get naked alone with a stranger. Now, yes that is their job and I am sure that you and Paul are utmost professionals. I just personally would think twice about going to a house or hotel (maybe in a more public studio I would feel different) where I asked the photographer if I could bring somebody because I felt uncertain about safety and he refused me. Again, I get your point but my self preservation alerts would be going off.
and like you said thats why your behind the scenes LOL.... hope you don't take offence to my post I am just debating... I love debates nothing personal...

I could care less that anyone is there because I run with sometimes myself or a crew of guys during shoots... what bothers me is 98% of these girls want to bring their "manager" to the shoots and in reality it's their boyfriend... so as a rule a thumb we say no girls can bring anyone... now if her friend wants to shoot a G/G/B then it's a tottally different story...

I think pault covered it as well.. when were trying to get something from a girl.. if her friends are there she may not be as "slutty" because she does not want to be judged by her friend at a later date if that makes sence....
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there is much more to this story than what we heard so far..
but again, fetisch and bondage models seem to be more likely to get killed on the job compared to a regular hardcore model. it is because these people are into a kink demonstrating power and control.

hmm just to add to the "bring a friend" discussion... i always allow friends or boyfriends of a model to be present, they will not be on the set but in a separate room. if it is a nervous model, usually it helps them feel comfortable. most often the friend gets bored and takes a ride to a nearby restaurant or movie theater and all is good. i have had it go wrong just a few times, once a friend brought her best friend and they were chatting while i was shooting her, it was very distracting and since then i dont allow that. Another time, a couple got into a fight because she had promised him that he could watch her getting drilled but then changed her mind upon arriving to the studio.. but then again, she was kinda nuts already so that shoot would probably gone weired anyways..
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and like you said thats why your behind the scenes LOL.... hope you don't take offence to my post I am just debating... I love debates nothing personal...

I could care less that anyone is there because I run with sometimes myself or a crew of guys during shoots... what bothers me is 98% of these girls want to bring their "manager" to the shoots and in reality it's their boyfriend... so as a rule a thumb we say no girls can bring anyone... now if her friend wants to shoot a G/G/B then it's a tottally different story...

I think pault covered it as well.. when were trying to get something from a girl.. if her friends are there she may not be as "slutty" because she does not want to be judged by her friend at a later date if that makes sence....
i dont agree either.. a model will be more slutty if she feels comfortable and safe.. that being said, the friend does not belong on the set itself.
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:07 PM   #44
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That's so sad, my condolences
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How horrible!
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:13 PM   #46
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That sucks that happened to such a young girl
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Its really not a porn story they lived together for 4 months.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:31 AM   #48
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:01 AM   #49
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Sad... But anyone who dealt with that guy was asking for it...

I don't mean to push stereotypes but he just looked way to much like the guy from Silence of the Lambs to me.
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:03 AM   #50
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