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TTiger 08-30-2007 06:16 PM

in fact is this legal to buy content and use it on tube site?

Megarotic 08-30-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 13012157)
yeah its ok saying that but this is bad for us affliates as we are not allowed to upload affliate clips

Get a video camera, a bunch of hot girls and a hotel room and you are in business :-)

halfpint 08-30-2007 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012172)
Get a video camera, a bunch of hot girls and a hotel room and you are in business :-)

if i had the money to do it i would shoot my own content.

CurrentlySober 08-30-2007 06:25 PM

do you like poo?
i do...
i like poo

Megarotic 08-30-2007 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by book-mark (Post 13012161)
so basically what you are saying is that you are encouraging users to infringe on content owners copyrights by paying them $2 per 1000 impressions on stolen videos ?

No. What I am saying is that you can produce your own content or upload content that you have licensed and make a good income if your clips are popular.

And if you would have taken the time to read my previous postings you would know that we do not encourage anyone to upload infringing content. Its against our terms of service.

Daruma 08-30-2007 06:28 PM

so is this guy the real guy or not?
scan and post a pic of your business card so we can know for sure..

tony286 08-30-2007 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012172)
Get a video camera, a bunch of hot girls and a hotel room and you are in business :-)

Why dont you go shoot your own content you have all this money instead of being a leech?

StarkReality 08-30-2007 06:36 PM

You guys are pretty smart, but hiding behind professional sounding statements, your TOS and promises to content owners doesn't change the fact that you run a site where users can upload content and you know very well that 99% of this content is simply stolen, pirated and not posted by the owner...even though you want to make people believe you don't and it's all honest business.

It's a legal loophole so far, but it won't last forever. Bubba has time, Bubba can wait and Bubba loves skinny nerds :321GFY

doorman 08-30-2007 06:47 PM

Im sure its the real deal
 
I have seen some posts around in the past few days.
None have gone very well for them. In fact they all seem to shame them for the people that they are. The other company they are running is a youtube site... "megavideo" cough cough copied all the files with exact text wink wink "user" uploads. So I would say yeah, its the real deal. Im sure they are here looking to scrape up all those webmasters who see this as a good way to make that buck they lost when they got kicked from a real affiliate program for sending stolen video traffic to it. Way to reach for the top, the cream of the crop, the best of the best.

Here is a great thread with tons of great links in it.. I will share some of my personal favorites. techcrunch.com/2007/08/07/megavideo-youtube-killer


There is a business week article where the guy compares himself to Hitler

?Schmitz spent several months in pretrial detention, an experience that inspired him to try using his skills to make a legal profit. ?That?s where I decided to use my knowhow and skills to become the world?s most successful businessman,? says Schmitz, with characteristic modesty. He adds, ?Wasn?t Hitler writing Mein Kampf while being arrested? ?

Charming guy?

book-mark 08-30-2007 06:53 PM

megarotic:

How do you prevent surfers from stealing content and posting it in exchange for direct compensation provided by your company?

Do you ask for 2257 information, model releases?

Or is it up to the actual content owner to contact you and say that the material is stolen, so that you can enjoy the free traffic and then don't pay the surfer .

Nice thought

Its pretty obvious to me what you guys are up to

SiMpLe 08-30-2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012048)
Unfortunately we lost one of our partners because our auditing team wasnt paying enough attention and beastiality content slipped onto our site. We have learned from that experience and will not allow such a mistake to happen again.

You mean content like this got your processing pulled?
Note what I searched for and note when it was added... :disgust :disgust

http://www.dpornstar.com/eh/fuckyou.jpg

FUCK YOU X3
AND
YOUR AUDITING TEAM SUCKS






:)

Megarotic 08-30-2007 07:18 PM

Look, I understand that it must hurt to see your business model blow up. Kinda like the typewriter manufacturers when the computer / printer came out. And I can feel your pain... But at the end of the day its all about what the users want. Our popularity shows that we did something right. And you guys should consider to adopt to this new reality.

Fact is that Megarotic is not going to go away. And because of our success there are already countless clones out there and even more are being built while I am typing this.

Its not about the content. Its about the concept. We became the number one adult site because we created something the users like. We could just buy ALL of our content (and you know its not even expensive) and we wouldnt have this whole "theft" discussion, but for sure some other flaming instead. Its the pain. I understand.

I enjoyed my time here. Good luck my friends.

tony286 08-30-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012344)
Look, I understand that it must hurt to see your business model blow up. Kinda like the typewriter manufacturers when the computer / printer came out. And I can feel your pain... But at the end of the day its all about what the users want. Our popularity shows that we did something right. And you guys should consider to adopt to this new reality.

Fact is that Megarotic is not going to go away. And because of our success there are already countless clones out there and even more are being built while I am typing this.

Its not about the content. Its about the concept. We became the number one adult site because we created something the users like. We could just buy ALL of our content (and you know its not even expensive) and we wouldnt have this whole "theft" discussion, but for sure some other flaming instead. Its the pain. I understand.

I enjoyed my time here. Good luck my friends.

Stealing is stealing no matter how many fancy names you give it,also if it was so legit you wouldnt be hiding in hong kong.

StarkReality 08-30-2007 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012344)
Good luck my friends.

And you'll need it when driving, still wrecking your cars like this ?
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/2...reck6vlhc3.jpg

RawAlex 08-30-2007 07:38 PM

You guys need to stop talking to lars and his fake nick. He is laughing his ass off at you.

Megarotic 08-30-2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13012402)
You guys need to stop talking to lars and his fake nick. He is laughing his ass off at you.

HOW DID YOU KNOW. DAMN! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

fris 08-30-2007 07:51 PM

Surfers are uploading the videos, you have no right to use them.

So basically its ok to show the content until someone notifies you about it?

I can see your server getting owned shortly

fardoche27 08-30-2007 08:01 PM

Who's lars?

tony286 08-30-2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 13012495)
Who's lars?

he is like Tony the tiger but with a beard.

TTiger 08-30-2007 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012427)
HOW DID YOU KNOW. DAMN! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

funniest thread ever :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
i was thinking you were the real megarotic guy!

TTiger 08-30-2007 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 13012495)
Who's lars?

Legendarylars

book-mark 08-30-2007 08:28 PM

megarotic: lol that's funny.

do you consider promoting stolen content to be a legitimate new idea?

funny.

Also, make me understand one more thing.

You say you have an "Auditing" department.

Does that mean that you are auditing new uploads?
In that case, would that not effectively negate your ISP protection and make you responsible for all the content located on your site?

Looks like you are taking on some serious liability here, good luck with fighting the lawsuit.

Also, how will it work out once you start receiving pornography complaints for a chinese company?

I heard they love Pornographers in China...

montel 08-30-2007 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012344)
Look, I understand that it must hurt to see your business model blow up. Kinda like the typewriter manufacturers when the computer / printer came out. And I can feel your pain... But at the end of the day its all about what the users want. Our popularity shows that we did something right. And you guys should consider to adopt to this new reality.

Fact is that Megarotic is not going to go away. And because of our success there are already countless clones out there and even more are being built while I am typing this.

Its not about the content. Its about the concept. We became the number one adult site because we created something the users like. We could just buy ALL of our content (and you know its not even expensive) and we wouldnt have this whole "theft" discussion, but for sure some other flaming instead. Its the pain. I understand.

I enjoyed my time here. Good luck my friends.

Yes, the concept is fine - users upload their own content onto your site and share it with others. The reason people are angry at this is that everyone knows full well that 99% of your content is uploaded by people that dont own the content. It is pirate content, you know it and we know it.

I still cant find an example of full length movies that have been uploaded by the copyright holder. Please link to a SINGLE full length hardcore porn movie (25 minutes plus) on Megarotic that WAS uploaded b the content owner and I will shut up and leave this thread.:) This should be easy for you right?

RawAlex 08-30-2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012427)
HOW DID YOU KNOW. DAMN! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The fuck you attitude is too obvious. You also aren't writing with the right accent.

JD 08-30-2007 09:32 PM

i'd put my BALLS in it!

Paul Markham 08-30-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 13012028)
All these guys want to know is.. Is there an affiliate program so they can make money sending you traffic?

Unfortunately this is the real truth. If Megarotic were paying $30 PPS there would be a lot less complaints. But then there business model would not work.

Paul Markham 08-30-2007 10:20 PM

The solution for Megarotic is simple. They buy, lease or only accept content from people who own it?

How do they know the person owns it? By the email of course. In other words they do not allow people on a free mail email addy to upload content. Or the account is approved and getting it approved is simple. Prove you own the content, both one off operations by your auditors.

Megarotic do not allow coded links so the uploader is looking to get the payments for views or/and type in traffic. The only people who have the rights to upload content to them are content owners. What ever way you cut it content costs money.

So these people will have bought or produced the content. Not people on [email protected]. Buyers and producers of content can prove they own it, they will have a site and odds on a sites email address like I do. so there is your first filter to ensure you're legal and ETHICAL.

The second one is very simple, anyone submitting content marked www.paulmarkhamteens.com and not working on an @paulmarkham.com email is stealing the content. Same goes for ALL watermarked content.

Megarotic's problem is simple. Can they get enough content to run the site at a price to keep it profitable?

Well they say some videos get 1000s of views. A hardcore video can cost between $10 to $50 so we will say $30 a video. $30 at $0.01 a minute = 3000 minutes. On a 10 minute video that's 300 views. Seems an easy number to hit and begs the question why submit a video which will make less than $30 and why pay out more than $30 when you can buy it and not bother to keep paying and administer the payment?

Which leads to the answers, because you don't own the video and $30 is better than nothing. And Megarotic are not paying out as much as they say they are. Or simply can't afford to buy in.

I understand your claim about a new business model. But you have to base it on being legal and ethical. Otherwise there's nothing new about stealing something to make a profit. People have been doing that for thousands of years.

Paul Markham 08-30-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012195)
No. What I am saying is that you can produce your own content or upload content that you have licensed and make a good income if your clips are popular.

And if you would have taken the time to read my previous postings you would know that we do not encourage anyone to upload infringing content. Its against our terms of service.

Why can't you buy the content yourself? Why pay someone else who has bought it more than you would buy it by going direct?

Agreed you do not encourage anyone, but as I pointed out stopping illegal uploading would be very easy. Unless you have 20 different guys uploading content every hour.

It takes minutes to verify if someone owns the content being submitted. Once they are approved by hand they can keep uploading. There are not that many content owners who would submit to you to make it a tough job. Your problem could be getting enough content to run the site. And not paying out enough to uploaders to make buying it unprofitable.

Altheon 08-30-2007 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic
Unfortunately we lost one of our partners because our auditing team wasnt paying enough attention and beastiality content slipped onto our site. We have learned from that experience and will not allow such a mistake to happen again.


Well there you go folks, if you were looking for an Achilles heel you got one. I'm pretty sure their "auditing team" couldn't keep up lots of smart post bots that flooded them with inappropriate content. Now get to coding.

gotys 08-30-2007 11:39 PM

to Paul Markham:

I totally agree with you here... there is one thing that don't make any sense to me though... Why do these people worry about content costs at all? I know that a tube site costs around $7000/month in bandwith for only 100,000 daily users. So if Megarotic has 1 million users/daily, then their bandwith costs are $70,000 / month.

Now my question is, if someone's costs are $70,000 / month, why not add another $7,000 / month and purchase 70 licenced DVDs ? That would only raise the total costs by 10%, but would keep megarotic and other tube sites legal? 70 clicenced DVDs would give them PLENTY of LEGAL content for each month.

So you see Paul, you keep talking about how "content costs too much money"...you are right, it costs money, but in comparison to their bandwith costs, it's a drop in the ocean...so my answer to all that is - it's not about the content costs - it's about the variety of content. Purchased DVD content is just DVD content and never has the quality of let's say Brazers' videos.

Those are my thoughts..i may be wrong though

JD 08-31-2007 12:01 AM

150 bastards

polish_aristocrat 08-31-2007 12:02 AM

I seriously can't believe that no one here emailed the guy just to verify if he's real and then posted here that he received a reply or that he didn't, or the e-mail bounced or whatever.

I would have done it but I thought there would be already 10 people who did it asap when the guy asked for it.

and now , 15 hours later, people are still debating if this guy is real or not

ProjectNaked 08-31-2007 12:07 AM

http://www.stupidcoeds.com/rv1.jpg

ilbb 08-31-2007 01:11 AM

fake nick?

Paul Markham 08-31-2007 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotys (Post 13013073)
to Paul Markham:

I totally agree with you here... there is one thing that don't make any sense to me though... Why do these people worry about content costs at all? I know that a tube site costs around $7000/month in bandwith for only 100,000 daily users. So if Megarotic has 1 million users/daily, then their bandwith costs are $70,000 / month.

Now my question is, if someone's costs are $70,000 / month, why not add another $7,000 / month and purchase 70 licenced DVDs ? That would only raise the total costs by 10%, but would keep megarotic and other tube sites legal? 70 clicenced DVDs would give them PLENTY of LEGAL content for each month.

So you see Paul, you keep talking about how "content costs too much money"...you are right, it costs money, but in comparison to their bandwith costs, it's a drop in the ocean...so my answer to all that is - it's not about the content costs - it's about the variety of content. Purchased DVD content is just DVD content and never has the quality of let's say Brazers' videos.

Those are my thoughts..i may be wrong though

Of course stealing it the easier option, but not if we hound them and shut down processing and go after their advertisers. Don't fool yourself the surfers on their sites are looking for anything specific. That's not the surfer they have. Nor the surfer we are signing up most of the time, otherwise retention would be better.

I agree that letting members upload it, or saying members are uploading it when in truth they are uploading it themselves, gives them a better selection and probably quality of video.

I wonder if he will answer my posts.

Megarotic 08-31-2007 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13013679)
Of course stealing it the easier option, but not if we hound them and shut down processing and go after their advertisers. Don't fool yourself the surfers on their sites are looking for anything specific. That's not the surfer they have. Nor the surfer we are signing up most of the time, otherwise retention would be better.

I agree that letting members upload it, or saying members are uploading it when in truth they are uploading it themselves, gives them a better selection and probably quality of video.

I wonder if he will answer my posts.


From: "Paul Markham" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Your thread on GFY
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:34:33 +0200

Was it serious?

I have lots of videos we can give you.

testpie 08-31-2007 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13012172)
Get a video camera, a bunch of hot girls and a hotel room and you are in business :-)

Assumably you kids don't give two shits about 2257 docs then?

fris 08-31-2007 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megarotic (Post 13013785)
From: "Paul Markham" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Your thread on GFY
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:34:33 +0200

Was it serious?

I have lots of videos we can give you.

surfers are uploading the videos either from rapidshare or other hosts, and they or you dont have the rights to the videos.

so basically you keep them on, until the content owner complains?

basially all your videos are exclusive content you dont even have sponsor links too.

as i said in my earlier post, these companies spend 100's of thousand dollars shooting this content, and you are giving it away for free, without sending the sponsors any traffic.

I could see if you had some sort of links/banners on each video, but you dont.

And the traffic program, basically people embed videos and make money off stolen/ripped content?

Thats stupid too.

You should be like xxxjay and his tube site, only program owners can send content that way its their with the permission of the owners, not some random person that downloaded 90 min videos from a free host

I would like to see a response on this, really curious.

FRAUD 08-31-2007 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fris (Post 13013956)
surfers are uploading the videos either from rapidshare or other hosts, and they or you dont have the rights to the videos.

so basically you keep them on, until the content owner complains?

basially all your videos are exclusive content you dont even have sponsor links too.

as i said in my earlier post, these companies spend 100's of thousand dollars shooting this content, and you are giving it away for free, without sending the sponsors any traffic.

I could see if you had some sort of links/banners on each video, but you dont.

And the traffic program, basically people embed videos and make money off stolen/ripped content?

Thats stupid too.

You should be like xxxjay and his tube site, only program owners can send content that way its their with the permission of the owners, not some random person that downloaded 90 min videos from a free host

I would like to see a response on this, really curious.

Yo, my MaiN man frIs, its me your homeboy MEGarotic on my boys computer.

Here is me reply. You sees if I's was to stop nicking peoples content and MAke a real site of iT then it wOuldn't be the biggest site in aDuLT then now wood IT? Then it wuld be like all the REst with that crPPy old used up shit content thats on every sITe that licenseS contents. EveRy body knoW that the pEOPle wiff the dopess cOntent doN'T license dat shit to nobodyS.

OF course I knoWs that we is RippinS you guys off, WHatS, do I looK like a duMMy? YOUS can't touch me. I is over here in URope and stuFFs. YOUS better watch IT oR I is gonna start POsting me pics of aLL de MercedeS and me in soMe cool SunglasseS and shit.

PeaCe Outs

FRAUD 08-31-2007 01:16 PM

WhEre is mY maiN man Fris?

btw, this is not megarotic. NiCk is FakE


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