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XPays · 08-27-2007, 11:29 AM

50 illegal torrent sites on the run

Vick! · 08-27-2007, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by XPays

50 illegal torrent sites on the run

I sometime wonder about the percentage of legal torrents.

will76 · 08-27-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

1 down 1242512123412491957981651621263 to go! We're winning the battle!

of those 1242512123412491957981651621263 i would say 20 of them account for 95%+ of the damage. Focus on the main 20 dont worry about the rest.

stev0 · 08-27-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.

Give me a break, torrentspy is a piracy ring and exists for that purpose alone.

will76 · 08-27-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

And that is how the adult internet was invented.

People need to innovate more and stop crying. Then again, this board needs its impressions so carry on.

innovate more ? how so?

( cherrylula: i don't know how but it sounded good to say it

)

germ · 08-27-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Incorrect, if you say that torrent sites owners are "distributing content' youd have a hell of time proving that in court. They dont distribute anything. Nothing but a link which allows users to connect and share.

No different than a TGP, and YES I do know the difference. I am playing devils advocate and asking a few questions it seems none of you even consider.

I dont care if any of you get arrested tomorrow and I surely dont *care* about torrentspy or its owner. But the fact is, torrent site operators are not providing the content, and users are.

To go after them is no different than going after any site that shows user content. Except the fact is, they dont even provide the content.

So its not like going after youtube....

(i can feel my profits go down as i sit here and waste time in this thread)

So, if someone ran a site called CPTorrents, and they predominantly traded in CP torrents...you would have an issue with them being held accountable? After all, they're not PROVIDING content...they're just giving people a place to share it. Nothing wrong with that, right?

I'm not saying unlicensed content is anything like CP...I'm just using it to prove a point.

AtlantisCash · 08-27-2007, 12:46 PM

there is no freedom in US, somebody occupied them for liberating ;)

tony286 · 08-27-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

there is no freedom in US, somebody occupied them for liberating ;)

Stealing is freedom, in your country dont they cut off body parts for theft?

Brujah · 08-27-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.

Because unlike Shemp, when you report a stolen video or illegal (beasty,cp,etc.) content they don't respond or take action. I think a lot of this is fueled by AFF however. If AFF won't stop paying the sites, they'll find other ways to deal with it.

»Rob Content« · 08-27-2007, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

And that is how the adult internet was invented.

People need to innovate more and stop crying. Then again, this board needs its impressions so carry on.

So creating a house that supplies links to this is adapting?

Cute_15_Year_Old_jacking_off_her_Daddy_zip
Fucking_my_little_sis_in_the_ass_illegal_preteen_u underage_lolita_kiddy_child_incest_xxx_porno_gay_f u fuck_young_naked_nude_little_g_rar
14_Year_Old_Nude_ANAL
Under_age_small_girl_showing_pussy_illegal.rar
prepuberty_underage_masturbation_video.mpg
15_year_OLD_rape_anal_forcedbj_blowjob.mwv
2_13_Year_Old_Forced_Lesbian_Sex.mpg
Underage rimjob 9 year old girl
WARNING Illegal UnderAge Teen Porn
Disgusting Underage Girls Turn Lesbian
NEW Nastiest Underage Teen Anal You Will Ever See
Underage Girls Caught On Camera WARNING Extremely Young Girl
DISGUSTING Underage Girl Masterbating Not Even 14

This is a small sample of thousands of links compiled.

So saying fuck it work with them is adapting? How is this proper? Please explain to me in the most logical way how working with these people is good for business?

RawAlex · 08-27-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

If Shemp (or any other TGP owner) knowingly linked to stolen material day in and day out, when it was clearly stolen and any normal person would know, then they have earned the right to meet with justice. Unlike your vivid and colorful "kick their door down", they would likely get served a nice piece of paper and have to answer for what is going on in a court of law.

That is assuming that 1} Shemp kept linking to stolen content after being notified by the true owners, 2} ignored the owners of the content, possibly even adding more stolen content each day, and 3} standing there saying "we are not responsible for our own site" over and over again.

You make it sound like linking to one stolen picture would get you a visit from jackboot thugs beating you up and raping your daughters. Geez, get a life. Torrentspy and most of the other torrent sites thumb their noses publically at copyright holders and tell them to GFY. They have earned a few minutes in a cell with Bubba as a result.

AtlantisCash · 08-27-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Stealing is freedom, in your country dont they cut off body parts for theft?

No Dear Bro, they don't, Get Your Map and You will see we are not living inn Soudi Arabia or Sudan, but anyway don't make bigger a joke.

btw. if You can't fight with torrents, better try to work with them as some people said.

tony286 · 08-27-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash

No Dear Bro, they don't, Get Your Map and You will see we are not living inn Soudi Arabia or Sudan, but anyway don't make bigger a joke.

btw. if You can't fight with torrents, better try to work with them as some people said.

Who says you cant fight them? There is nothing to work with,they use stolen content to make money. Someone robs your house do you work with them to get some of your stuff back.

AtlantisCash · 08-27-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Who says you cant fight them? There is nothing to work with,they use stolen content to make money. Someone robs your house do you work with them to get some of your stuff back.

na, but here we're talking about a cyber world, so rules should be differant a bit.

start all torrent sites shutting 1 to milions:

how many times would it take to over come?

1 year?

2?

ok let's say You beat all these milions,

but don't forget still new torrent monsters keep coming.

solution should be creating legal torrent traffic similar logic with tgps, but thats still my openeon, i think there should be many differant ways of getting rid off these bastards.

Peace.

Pete-KT · 08-27-2007, 02:53 PM

Very nice, good work everyone

Rui · 08-27-2007, 03:06 PM

So much for using proper argumentation to defend the torrents that support illegal content ah!

gideongallery · 08-27-2007, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin-SFBucks

Fine.... let them start this way... a good portion of their sales come from the US anyway... as do other torrent sites.

Let's see.... if 75-80% of my sales come from US based customers... and those customers can't get my product illegally.... then they will have to shop for it legally...

OK... no problem with them cutting out US surfers.... when the legal situations in other countries require the same... then they are effectively shut down.

if you haven't realized this action will increase their sales
because a person must click thru the directory links to find the content they want instead of just searching for it

RawAlex · 08-27-2007, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

if you haven't realized this action will increase their sales
because a person must click thru the directory links to find the content they want instead of just searching for it

No, US surfers cannot use their service period. If the user accesses their site from the US, they must track IP and pages visited. They can't or won't comply, so surfers are blocked out.

If you can't show them pages, you can't show them ads.

notoldschool · 08-27-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

Yeah, Google and Yahoo should be shut down too! All that content they link that's not theirs to profit from.

I didnt know that google had full length movies that are not even out at the theatres yet in the google videos section. Oh yeah, they dont. apples & oranges.

Pleasurepays · 08-27-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

So instead of anything remotely positive as an answer to my question, you pop off with a high school age one liner.

Run along. You probably have no idea even how torrents work, and you surely have nothing positive here to say.

you are trying to argue for the sake of arguing because as everyone well knows, you reflexively rebel against any semblance of authority and order.

you know quite well that Shemp is not running a business based on stolen content... being tv shows, movies, software, music etc. torrent sites are. torrent sites are about sharing stolen content. the appeal of torrent sites is accessing and downloading stolen content and you don't have to be a legal genius to know that the site owners are doing so knowingly.

maybe one time you will be bleeding to death on the side of the road and people will use your logic by saying "why should i help him.. it wasn't ME that shot him"

Gerco · 08-27-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Can i aks some of you how theyd feel about someone like Shemp having their doors kicked in because he LINKED TO A GALLERY WITH STOLEN CONTENT, then they demand he turn over Shemp.com and all his priovate records - not because he HOSTED ANY STOLENT CONTENT< but only because he LINKED TO IT.

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a stolen gallery, that sums up the torrent debate.

Stories like this scare me regarding the power given to people who sue (big mainstream companies) and the power to take our domains from us. All because you link to something???? that is scary.

I dont applaud this, i sit back and wonder when will they come for the rest of us. When theres no more torrent site owners to arrest, they will come for you.

WTF? Lets take your analogy a little further. You own a crackhouse. You let crackheads live there for free, you provide access to all the tools they need in order to commit crimes for free. You provide them with a place to keep and share information on the goods they steal. You do this so you can sell advertising in the hopes that one of the crack heads gets so fucked up that they actually want something you are selling. Yet, your in no way libel? Fuck that. Torrent sites are ONLY making money off of the access to stolen goods.

ultimatebbwdotcom · 08-27-2007, 06:34 PM

The pro torrent responses are getting so fucking annoying.

Always from the same people who don't make the content (or any content) thats being stolen and spew "you should find a way to work with torrents" - with absolutely no money making idea to prove it can be done.

Please.....fuck off

c-lo · 08-27-2007, 06:37 PM

Anyone that knows how torrents work and supports them is either involved with them or just playing dumb.

Their business model is based entirely upon generating profit from facilitating the distribution of stolen goods. It really is that simple.

Fletch, as for your argument - it's invalid because Shemp would not have the stolen content linked (knowingly & willfully) in an effort to turn a profit (as torrent sites do.) And if he did, I would expect him to be shut down as well.

Any company or individual, large or small, deserves the right to profit from any & all media they create. If they want to release some of it via torrents for promotional use, that's fine, but they shouldn't have to worry about it being stolen.

the Shemp · 08-27-2007, 08:46 PM

thanks GFY, my traffic is up today

uno · 08-27-2007, 09:10 PM

They didn't get smacked by that Dutch anti piracy group or gov't agency?

V_RocKs · 08-27-2007, 09:15 PM

Sooo... you just use a proxy?

MarkMan · 08-27-2007, 11:14 PM

I don't think this will effect the torrent sites much, but i do think we need to become a bit more innovative to deal with stolen content from our sites.

something along the lines of , if you got a join on your pay site, all content must be water marked somehow , digitally.. yet invisibly

different watermarks for different sites.. making it difficulty to remove such things..
if the content is found on torrent sites, you hunt down the member and sue their ass.

if they lied or used stolen CCs you can still track their them down to their addresses and deal with them.

once the risk for the torrent sites, will out way the rewards we will increase our sells once again.

my 2c

DaddyHalbucks · 08-27-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SPeRMiNaToR

1 down 1242512123412491957981651621263 to go! We're winning the battle!

Yes, sometimes it feels like a losing battle.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 08-28-2007, 12:14 AM

Personally, I think they just made things easier on themselves and American torrent fans. Now, you have to go through a proxy, which is probably a good idea anyway (from a don't get caught standpoint) so you're protected. Once you're in on a proxy and download the torrent, everything works as before.

Certainly someone who can figure out torrents can figure out the proxy thing. There's a million sites and they're easy.

edited to say: no I don't own a torrent site, I just thought this was a pretty self serving move on their part

raymor · 08-28-2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

That is what is happening to torrent sites. Users share the content, not the site owner, yet you all cheer when they have their sites taken from them and their records seized?

Wow, sometimes I think im the only one who is level headed enough to see the witch hunt for what it is.

I guess next you guys want TGP owners to be arrested because they linked to a

Most of the torrents on that site were stolen. It's someone who lives off either
stealing or helping people steal, depending on how you want to look at it.
Either way they are in the theft business. I don't think most TGP owners are in
the theft business. For any that are, I sure as heck wouldn't blame any of my
buddies who produce that content if they sued the people living off of the theft
of their work. While much of my software is free and open source, I sure
have a plan of action ready to go when I find someone taking food from my
kid's mouth stealing Strongbox or helping people steal Strongbox.

MediumPimpin · 08-28-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Because unlike Shemp, when you report a stolen video or illegal (beasty,cp,etc.) content they don't respond or take action. I think a lot of this is fueled by AFF however. If AFF won't stop paying the sites, they'll find other ways to deal with it.

And on top of that Shemp will not list anything that he thinks may be stolen, unlike a torrent site that will list anything.

Torrents list the best stolen stuff they can get to get views, name a tgp that does this?

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ultimatebbwdotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 591	The pro torrent responses are getting so fucking annoying. Always from the same people who don't make the content (or any content) thats being stolen and spew "you should find a way to work with torrents" - with absolutely no money making idea to prove it can be done. Please.....fuck off

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MarkMan Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Money Land Posts: 1,370	I don't think this will effect the torrent sites much, but i do think we need to become a bit more innovative to deal with stolen content from our sites. something along the lines of , if you got a join on your pay site, all content must be water marked somehow , digitally.. yet invisibly different watermarks for different sites.. making it difficulty to remove such things.. if the content is found on torrent sites, you hunt down the member and sue their ass. if they lied or used stolen CCs you can still track their them down to their addresses and deal with them. once the risk for the torrent sites, will out way the rewards we will increase our sells once again. my 2c

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