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J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:20 PM

I know most of you saw this a long time ago, but I just watched it tonight and I'm dissapointed to say the least. So, what the fuck happens? Does he get wacked by that dude sitting at the bar on his way out of the bathroom?

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:21 PM

Just in case, I'm referring to the finale episode.

tony286 · 08-26-2007, 07:23 PM

I think it meant life just goes on.Tony is fine.

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I think it meant life just goes on.Tony is fine.

Somehow I doubt that.

zand_stein · 08-26-2007, 07:24 PM

im a sporano..................
what genre are you reffering?

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:26 PM

MOST. OVERRATED. SHOW. EVER.

and

WORST. ENDING. EVER.

baddog · 08-26-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by zand_stein

im a sporano..................
what genre are you reffering?

You are fast becoming the most annoying bot on all of GFY.

Young · 08-26-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Somehow I doubt that.

Oh really? Because you've seen what happens after?

Life goes on is the most reasonable explanation and was only bolstered by David Chase's statements.

We jumped into Tony's life which was well underway in season 1. What makes you think that we just can't jump out?

We got a slice of the life....no beginning...no end.

tony286 · 08-26-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Somehow I doubt that.

Why?He made a deal with the guy under phil,that guy wanted the war over so the earning could begin. He didnt want Tony dead he wanted to try and make peace and phil said what are you crazy its too late.

HouseHead · 08-26-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are fast becoming the most annoying bot on all of GFY.

Baddog your so right, A+

fuzebox · 08-26-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I think it meant life just goes on.Tony is fine.

Agreed

I think the tension that was built in the last scene was to show you what it's like being Tony Soprano... Always on the edge.

fuzebox · 08-26-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Does he get wacked by that dude sitting at the bar on his way out of the bathroom?

If someone did put a hit on Tony, it'd be at least two guys doing it

I think the dude in the bathroom was just a nod to Godfather 1.

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Why?He made a deal with the guy under phil,that guy wanted the war over so the earning could begin. He didnt want Tony dead he wanted to try and make peace and phil said what are you crazy its too late.

Either way it is a horrendous ending. Why did they keep focusing in on that guy at the bad then? Just to tease us? It made absolutely no sense at all. The entire season (or half season) was crap.

tony286 · 08-26-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Either way it is a horrendous ending. Why did they keep focusing in on that guy at the bad then? Just to tease us? It made absolutely no sense at all. The entire season (or half season) was crap.

People got very pissed off, David Chase got death threats.

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

If someone did put a hit on Tony, it'd be at least two guys doing it

Definitely.

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I think the dude in the bathroom was just a nod to Godfather 1.

I see where you're going with that but I do not see the similarities at all. In the Godfather Pacino had to go the the bathroom because he was frisked and tha bathroom is where the gun was. Here it just made no sense at all to focus on that guy if he wasn't going to kill him/them.

Anyway, to compare The Soppranos to The Godfather is crazy (even if that's not what you're doing).

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

People got very pissed off, David Chase got death threats.

LOL I wouldn't go that far.

Personally I only enjoyed the first few seasons. The show was completely absent of logic most of the time. The dialogues seemed like they were made up by dimwits. There were no real deep moments, everthing was just so fake. No message to speak of. The only good thing about the show was the acting.

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 08-26-2007, 07:55 PM

I was ticked about the ending for about 5 minutes. Then I watched it over again a few times and came to my own conclusions and I was actually OK with it.

I believe he was killed. I'm not going to go into every single reason why, but I think it was one of the themes of the show that some things are inevitable when you live that kind of life, and I think dying, for Tony, was inevitable. Lots of people disagree with me, but I felt that Tony died before I heard any other "theories" and I still stick to it.

uno · 08-26-2007, 07:59 PM

I believe he was killed. They talked earlier about what it would like to be whacked and the last seen fit that.

What I want to believe is that Tony lived and he's going to have to watch over his shoulder at all times. Sort of a living hell.

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

I was ticked about the ending for about 5 minutes. Then I watched it over again a few times and came to my own conclusions and I was actually OK with it.

If they wanted you to draw your own conclusions I think they went about it all wrong. You just don't end a 6 or 7 year series on that kind note. Very poorly done.

08-26-2007, 08:08 PM

It was GENIUS if you put the pieces together...

Tony, Carmela and AJ sitting in a diner. Customers coming in and out, all of whom seem, for a moment, like a potential hit man. Meadow botching her parallel parking outside, and finally walking through the door. The family's all eating a meal together, just as they did in the last scene of the each season. But then—black. Wait: did my cable just go out? What the #@*&? And then, after a few seconds, the credits roll, and we realize we've all been had. Or have we? Rather than give viewers an ending that was bound to disappoint fans who didn't want it all to end that way, we get to create the ending ourselves, in our own imaginations, in a whatever way we want.

And then there's the show's final trick, the one where Chase lovingly thumbs his nose at all us "Sopranos" fanatics. Will there be a sequel? A movie? How do you top the greatest TV drama of all time? As he often did, Chase gave us the answer in the form of a song: "Don't Stop Believing," which was playing as the credits roll. The band that performed it, by the way, was Journey. And what a wonderful journey it's been."

P.S.....
Don't forget the 2nd to last episode with bobby and Tony on the boat. The conversation was about what it'd be like to die. Bobby and Tony decided it'd just fade to black...which it did.

uno · 08-26-2007, 08:10 PM

They better make a god damn movie.

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shermsshack

Rather than give viewers an ending that was bound to disappoint fans who didn't want it all to end that way, we get to create the ending ourselves, in our own imaginations, in a whatever way we want.

Thats what I hated about it. It takes a very lazy and/or limited director to not place an ending on his own story. Everyone just gets to invent their own ending? What the fuck is that? Please man, it was total shit.

kane · 08-26-2007, 08:27 PM

To me the ending was a cop-out. Chase knew that he would never be able to make everyone happy. If it ended in a hail of gunfire with everyone dead there would be people upset. If it ended with nobody dying there would be people upset. If tony got whacked some people would be pissed. He painted himself into a corner. So instead of taking a stand and just giving people an ending, he decided to give the audience the finger and not produce any real ending.

The way I see it is that you can take it one of two ways. Either he was killed by the guy that went into the bathroom and chase didn't want to leave us with a shot of his brains on the wall, or he didn't. When we met tony in episode one he was about to be indicted and his professional life was in turmoil. His home life was in transition and overall he was paranoid and in chaos. Five years later when we leave tony he is in the same situation.

To me the two parts of the last episode were when we found out a little more about that FBI agent. He cheats on his wife and is in a mobster death pool. Ultimatly he really isn't much better than the people he is chasing. Also, that last shot of Pauly sitting out in front of the meat shop with the sun reflector on his face. If I remember correctly that was the exact same position he was in when we first saw him in season 1.

Dagwolf · 08-26-2007, 08:55 PM

J.R. Ewing shot Tony and now runs the Jersey mob as well as the SouthFork empire.

BBWTori · 08-26-2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

To me the ending was a cop-out. Chase knew that he would never be able to make everyone happy.

I agree 100%. Now why stir this all up now when I just got this serious injustice outta my system?

J. Falcon · 08-26-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BBWTori

I agree 100%. Now why stir this all up now when I just got this serious injustice outta my system?

Cuz I just saw it tonight for the first time, sorry

Young · 08-26-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

To me the ending was a cop-out. Chase knew that he would never be able to make everyone happy.

Chase doesn't give a fuck what everyone thinks. And he showed this best by giving us the ending he did.

His whole approach was different from every other TV show and that's what made The Soprano's great.

This ending was no different. There does not have to be an ending. There are no rules.

kane · 08-27-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

Chase doesn't give a fuck what everyone thinks. And he showed this best by giving us the ending he did.

His whole approach was different from every other TV show and that's what made The Soprano's great.

This ending was no different. There does not have to be an ending. There are no rules.

I agree that the show was ground breaking and that he didn't follow the rules and much of that was what made the show so great. I'm normally not opposed to endings that kind of leave things up in the air, especially if it is a movie. You invested 2 hours in it and if you hate the ending no big deal. But with a show that was on this long that he knew was ending he had plenty of time to come of with some type of ending to give the audience some type of closure. In the end he gave us the finger.

Is it brilliant? Maybe. Is it lame? probably. In a way it is what Tony might have said to us. I was pissed at first and still think that we were robbed, but oh well. I have to wonder if people will be willing to embrace anything new that he does any time soon.

D · 08-27-2007, 01:10 AM

It's open-ended. Many pointers going either way.

RevSand · 08-27-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by D

It's open-ended. Many pointers going either way.

Yep.. I have had arguements with people and takin both sides of it.. He lived or he died... There is too much on both sides to have either side win.. I think it was a masterful ending to the show to let the viewer pick what happened as they see fit.

08-27-2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RevSand

Yep.. I have had arguements with people and takin both sides of it.. He lived or he died... There is too much on both sides to have either side win.. I think it was a masterful ending to the show to let the viewer pick what happened as they see fit.

Glad somebody agrees with me!

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-27-2007, 02:41 AM

Tony gets whacked together with wife and kids.

zand_stein · 08-27-2007, 02:48 AM

One strength of ‘‘The Sopranos’’ is the way it forced us to think. The show never spelled out its plot lines, its characters’ motivations, or its moral questions. It never pampered viewers with easy answers; it egged us on to analyze and project. And so the finale, while mysterious, was true to the series as a whole. Rather than an ending that would stop the conversation about Tony Soprano, Chase gave us an ending that will keep us talking.

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-27-2007, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zand_stein

One strength of ??The Sopranos?? is the way it forced us to think. The show never spelled out its plot lines, its characters? motivations, or its moral questions. It never pampered viewers with easy answers; it egged us on to analyze and project. And so the finale, while mysterious, was true to the series as a whole. Rather than an ending that would stop the conversation about Tony Soprano, Chase gave us an ending that will keep us talking.

Nice copy/paste from http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles...ers_psych es/

asshat

Red Ezra · 08-27-2007, 02:59 AM

it's all in your mind

kane · 08-27-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet

Nice copy/paste from http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles...ers_psych es/

asshat

nice catch. I was about to say that it looked like someone has stolen Zand's computer and was posting more than, "thanks for thoughts."

08-26-2007, 07:20 PM	#1
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08-26-2007, 07:21 PM	#2
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08-26-2007, 07:55 PM	#17
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	I was ticked about the ending for about 5 minutes. Then I watched it over again a few times and came to my own conclusions and I was actually OK with it. I believe he was killed. I'm not going to go into every single reason why, but I think it was one of the themes of the show that some things are inevitable when you live that kind of life, and I think dying, for Tony, was inevitable. Lots of people disagree with me, but I felt that Tony died before I heard any other "theories" and I still stick to it. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

08-26-2007, 07:23 PM	#3
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I think it meant life just goes on.Tony is fine.

08-26-2007, 07:59 PM	#18
uno RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Area Posts: 18,450	I believe he was killed. They talked earlier about what it would like to be whacked and the last seen fit that. What I want to believe is that Tony lived and he's going to have to watch over his shoulder at all times. Sort of a living hell. __________________ -uno icq: 111-914 CrazyBabe.com - porn art MojoHost - For all your hosting needs, present and future. Tell them I sent ya!

08-26-2007, 08:08 PM	#20
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	It was GENIUS if you put the pieces together... Tony, Carmela and AJ sitting in a diner. Customers coming in and out, all of whom seem, for a moment, like a potential hit man. Meadow botching her parallel parking outside, and finally walking through the door. The family's all eating a meal together, just as they did in the last scene of the each season. But then—black. Wait: did my cable just go out? What the #@*&? And then, after a few seconds, the credits roll, and we realize we've all been had. Or have we? Rather than give viewers an ending that was bound to disappoint fans who didn't want it all to end that way, we get to create the ending ourselves, in our own imaginations, in a whatever way we want. And then there's the show's final trick, the one where Chase lovingly thumbs his nose at all us "Sopranos" fanatics. Will there be a sequel? A movie? How do you top the greatest TV drama of all time? As he often did, Chase gave us the answer in the form of a song: "Don't Stop Believing," which was playing as the credits roll. The band that performed it, by the way, was Journey. And what a wonderful journey it's been." P.S..... Don't forget the 2nd to last episode with bobby and Tony on the boat. The conversation was about what it'd be like to die. Bobby and Tony decided it'd just fade to black...which it did.

08-26-2007, 08:10 PM	#21
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08-26-2007, 08:27 PM	#23
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	To me the ending was a cop-out. Chase knew that he would never be able to make everyone happy. If it ended in a hail of gunfire with everyone dead there would be people upset. If it ended with nobody dying there would be people upset. If tony got whacked some people would be pissed. He painted himself into a corner. So instead of taking a stand and just giving people an ending, he decided to give the audience the finger and not produce any real ending. The way I see it is that you can take it one of two ways. Either he was killed by the guy that went into the bathroom and chase didn't want to leave us with a shot of his brains on the wall, or he didn't. When we met tony in episode one he was about to be indicted and his professional life was in turmoil. His home life was in transition and overall he was paranoid and in chaos. Five years later when we leave tony he is in the same situation. To me the two parts of the last episode were when we found out a little more about that FBI agent. He cheats on his wife and is in a mobster death pool. Ultimatly he really isn't much better than the people he is chasing. Also, that last shot of Pauly sitting out in front of the meat shop with the sun reflector on his face. If I remember correctly that was the exact same position he was in when we first saw him in season 1.

08-26-2007, 08:55 PM	#24
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	J.R. Ewing shot Tony and now runs the Jersey mob as well as the SouthFork empire. __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

08-27-2007, 01:10 AM	#29
D Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Valley Posts: 7,412	It's open-ended. Many pointers going either way. __________________ -D. ICQ: 202-96-31

08-27-2007, 02:41 AM	#32
Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 7,515	Tony gets whacked together with wife and kids.

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zand_stein Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,438	One strength of ‘‘The Sopranos’’ is the way it forced us to think. The show never spelled out its plot lines, its characters’ motivations, or its moral questions. It never pampered viewers with easy answers; it egged us on to analyze and project. And so the finale, while mysterious, was true to the series as a whole. Rather than an ending that would stop the conversation about Tony Soprano, Chase gave us an ending that will keep us talking. __________________ Paying Affiliates DAILY by ePassporte!

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